Aloe Vera ?

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I noticed that Aloe Vera Juice is not legal on SCD. I would like to know why

because our GI doc recommended 's Aloe Vera Juice, he said it would help

with my son's stomach inflammation and acid reflux issues, because he did not do

well on medication he precribed (Pepcid, Pentasa, Singulair). 's Aloe

Vera Juice website it said that all sugars and polysaccrides(Sp?) were removed

if that is what makes it illegal on SCD.

I am at a stand still and very frustrated because after 3yrs of chelation and

strict SCD our 7yo son's GI issues still have not been resolved, he was recently

scoped this past April and his results we actually worse then before when he was

scoped at 3 yrs old, my husband and I were shocked. I do want to say that the

diet did help with diahrrea, but not with the inflammation and acid reflux. By

all means I am not knocking down any invention, diet or otherwise, so please no

one get defensive or insulted. I just want to help my son heal his stomach and

figure out how I can do that. I have also been research Yasko's website and I'm

also wondering if it's the protein/eggs that are causing some of these issues.

I try to keep our son's diet balance so he's not eating all protein, but I'm

wondering if the surplur in the eggs are causing a problem and if it's an

ammonia problem as well. I don't know I'm new to Yasko.

I would appreciate any comments and/or advice or if someone is in the same

situation, please email me privately if you want.

Thank you.

Jeanne

---------------------------------

Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne,

I am sorry to hear that your son is not doing well. Chelation can be

very hard on the GI system. Many parents have reported to us that

their children did better with SCD after they stopped chelation.

I do not think that the problem is due to ammonia. I want to clarify

that a diet that eliminates fermentable carbohydrates (as SCD does)

will lower ammonia levels. Much of the ammonia is due to gut bugs.

The article below shows that fermentable carbohydrates produce ammonia.

BTW, fermentable carbohydrates means carbs that feed gut bugs.

Mimi

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSear\

ch=2539446&ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.\

Pubmed_RVDocSum

1: J Nutr. 1989 Apr;119(4):560-5. Links

Specific effects of fermentable carbohydrates on blood urea flux and

ammonia absorption in the rat cecum.

Rémésy C, Demigné C.

Laboratoire des Maladies Métaboliques, I.N.R.A. Theix, Ceyrat, France.

These studies were conducted to determine to what extent dietary

fibers, or related compounds such as lactulose or amylomaize starch,

alter the flux of blood urea to the cecum and cecal absorption of

ammonia in the rat. Cecal weight and pH values were not different

among rats fed diets containing 10% lactulose, pectin or guar gum, or

25% amylomaize starch. However, the cecal wall weight was markedly

higher with lactulose feeding than with the other polysaccharides,

whereas volatile fatty acid concentrations were lower with lactulose.

The fiber diets depressed cecal ammonia, particularly in the case of

the amylomaize starch diet, whereas the lactulose diet enhanced the

concentration of ammonia. Owing to cecal enlargement and enhanced

blood flow, the diets containing fermentable carbohydrates promoted a

higher flux of urea to the cecum and also higher ammonia absorption in

spite of low concentrations of ammonia in the cecum. Lactulose led to

particularly high transfer of urea and absorption of ammonia. High

blood urea in rats fed a 50% casein diet led to a very high flux of

urea to the cecum and, hence, to high ammonia absorption. The presence

of polysaccharides amplified the flux of urea and ammonia in the

cecum. This study suggests that oligosaccharides such as lactulose,

although very effective for the acidification of the contents of the

large intestine, may enhance cecal ammonia and its absorption.

Polysaccharides such as amylomaize starch might show greater

efficiency for lowering ammonia concentrations in the large intestine.

PMID: 2539446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> I noticed that Aloe Vera Juice is not legal on SCD. I would like to know

> why because our GI doc recommended 's Aloe Vera Juice, he said it

> would help with my son's stomach inflammation and acid reflux issues,

> because he did not do well on medication he precribed (Pepcid, Pentasa,

> Singulair). 's Aloe Vera Juice website it said that all sugars and

> polysaccrides(Sp?) were removed if that is what makes it illegal on SCD.

>

> I am at a stand still and very frustrated because after 3yrs of chelation

> and strict SCD our 7yo son's GI issues still have not been resolved,

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne,

Here's some information from Elaine's web site:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aloe_vera.htm

SCD almost 7 years

Intestinal problems from pesticide poisoning

--- Jeanne wrote:

> Hi:

>

> I noticed that Aloe Vera Juice is not legal on

> SCD. I would like to know why because our GI doc

> recommended 's Aloe Vera Juice, he said it

> would help with my son's stomach inflammation and

> acid reflux issues, because he did not do well on

> medication he precribed (Pepcid, Pentasa,

> Singulair). 's Aloe Vera Juice website it

> said that all sugars and polysaccrides(Sp?) were

> removed if that is what makes it illegal on SCD.

> Thank you.

> Jeanne

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

Got a little couch potato?

Check out fun summer activities for kids.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz

[Guest guest]

Hello:

Thank you for trying to help but our son has stopped chelating for 7months now

and GI issues have remained the same. I just don't know what to do, I do love

the SCDiet I think it is extremely healthy but after seeing that scope which was

recently done, we were shocked to see his gut was worse than before. I do have

to say again, it did help with diarrhea and his colon looked great, but it's

frustrating to my husband and I that his still has inflammation of his stomach

which is causing the acid reflux. We are a standstill right now on what to do.

Thanks

Jeanne

pecan post wrote:

Hi Jeanne,

I am sorry to hear that your son is not doing well. Chelation can be

very hard on the GI system. Many parents have reported to us that

their children did better with SCD after they stopped chelation.

I do not think that the problem is due to ammonia. I want to clarify

that a diet that eliminates fermentable carbohydrates (as SCD does)

will lower ammonia levels. Much of the ammonia is due to gut bugs.

The article below shows that fermentable carbohydrates produce ammonia.

BTW, fermentable carbohydrates means carbs that feed gut bugs.

Mimi

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSear\

ch=2539446&ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.\

Pubmed_RVDocSum

1: J Nutr. 1989 Apr;119(4):560-5. Links

Specific effects of fermentable carbohydrates on blood urea flux and

ammonia absorption in the rat cecum.

Rémésy C, Demigné C.

Laboratoire des Maladies Métaboliques, I.N.R.A. Theix, Ceyrat, France.

These studies were conducted to determine to what extent dietary

fibers, or related compounds such as lactulose or amylomaize starch,

alter the flux of blood urea to the cecum and cecal absorption of

ammonia in the rat. Cecal weight and pH values were not different

among rats fed diets containing 10% lactulose, pectin or guar gum, or

25% amylomaize starch. However, the cecal wall weight was markedly

higher with lactulose feeding than with the other polysaccharides,

whereas volatile fatty acid concentrations were lower with lactulose.

The fiber diets depressed cecal ammonia, particularly in the case of

the amylomaize starch diet, whereas the lactulose diet enhanced the

concentration of ammonia. Owing to cecal enlargement and enhanced

blood flow, the diets containing fermentable carbohydrates promoted a

higher flux of urea to the cecum and also higher ammonia absorption in

spite of low concentrations of ammonia in the cecum. Lactulose led to

particularly high transfer of urea and absorption of ammonia. High

blood urea in rats fed a 50% casein diet led to a very high flux of

urea to the cecum and, hence, to high ammonia absorption. The presence

of polysaccharides amplified the flux of urea and ammonia in the

cecum. This study suggests that oligosaccharides such as lactulose,

although very effective for the acidification of the contents of the

large intestine, may enhance cecal ammonia and its absorption.

Polysaccharides such as amylomaize starch might show greater

efficiency for lowering ammonia concentrations in the large intestine.

PMID: 2539446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> I noticed that Aloe Vera Juice is not legal on SCD. I would like to know

> why because our GI doc recommended 's Aloe Vera Juice, he said it

> would help with my son's stomach inflammation and acid reflux issues,

> because he did not do well on medication he precribed (Pepcid, Pentasa,

> Singulair). 's Aloe Vera Juice website it said that all sugars and

> polysaccrides(Sp?) were removed if that is what makes it illegal on SCD.

>

> I am at a stand still and very frustrated because after 3yrs of chelation

> and strict SCD our 7yo son's GI issues still have not been resolved,

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Are you doing the simple/basic reflux intervention on having him sleep at an

angle? We are at a similar place with my 3 YO. We were so thrilled that as a

congenital diaphragmatic hernia survivor, she did initially not appear to have

reflux. She unfortunately developed a perforated esophagus at 12 months and a

partial fundiplication was the solution at the time. She did not have the type

of fundiplication done for reflux and now she is symptomatic (hoarse voice all

of the time). Once I find out there is nothing serious going on, I plan to try

the bed elevation at a minimum. From the dietary research I have done on

reflux, SCD is appropriate, but you are also not supposed to eat within 2-3

hours of bedtime (hard on my child).

Also I noticed there was no answer to your question about

sugar-free/poly-sacharride-free aloe vera. Can the moderators say if 's

juice has been explored as SCD legal? I did not realize they could remove such

things!

-

Jeanne wrote:

Hello:

Thank you for trying to help but our son has stopped chelating for 7months now

and GI issues have remained the same. I just don't know what to do, I do love

the SCDiet I think it is extremely healthy but after seeing that scope which was

recently done, we were shocked to see his gut was worse than before. I do have

to say again, it did help with diarrhea and his colon looked great, but it's

frustrating to my husband and I that his still has inflammation of his stomach

which is causing the acid reflux. We are a standstill right now on what to do.

Thanks

Jeanne

pecan post wrote:

Hi Jeanne,

I am sorry to hear that your son is not doing well. Chelation can be

very hard on the GI system. Many parents have reported to us that

their children did better with SCD after they stopped chelation.

I do not think that the problem is due to ammonia. I want to clarify

that a diet that eliminates fermentable carbohydrates (as SCD does)

will lower ammonia levels. Much of the ammonia is due to gut bugs.

The article below shows that fermentable carbohydrates produce ammonia.

BTW, fermentable carbohydrates means carbs that feed gut bugs.

Mimi

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSear\

ch=2539446&ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.\

Pubmed_RVDocSum

1: J Nutr. 1989 Apr;119(4):560-5. Links

Specific effects of fermentable carbohydrates on blood urea flux and

ammonia absorption in the rat cecum.

Rémésy C, Demigné C.

Laboratoire des Maladies Métaboliques, I.N.R.A. Theix, Ceyrat, France.

These studies were conducted to determine to what extent dietary

fibers, or related compounds such as lactulose or amylomaize starch,

alter the flux of blood urea to the cecum and cecal absorption of

ammonia in the rat. Cecal weight and pH values were not different

among rats fed diets containing 10% lactulose, pectin or guar gum, or

25% amylomaize starch. However, the cecal wall weight was markedly

higher with lactulose feeding than with the other polysaccharides,

whereas volatile fatty acid concentrations were lower with lactulose.

The fiber diets depressed cecal ammonia, particularly in the case of

the amylomaize starch diet, whereas the lactulose diet enhanced the

concentration of ammonia. Owing to cecal enlargement and enhanced

blood flow, the diets containing fermentable carbohydrates promoted a

higher flux of urea to the cecum and also higher ammonia absorption in

spite of low concentrations of ammonia in the cecum. Lactulose led to

particularly high transfer of urea and absorption of ammonia. High

blood urea in rats fed a 50% casein diet led to a very high flux of

urea to the cecum and, hence, to high ammonia absorption. The presence

of polysaccharides amplified the flux of urea and ammonia in the

cecum. This study suggests that oligosaccharides such as lactulose,

although very effective for the acidification of the contents of the

large intestine, may enhance cecal ammonia and its absorption.

Polysaccharides such as amylomaize starch might show greater

efficiency for lowering ammonia concentrations in the large intestine.

PMID: 2539446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> I noticed that Aloe Vera Juice is not legal on SCD. I would like to know

> why because our GI doc recommended 's Aloe Vera Juice, he said it

> would help with my son's stomach inflammation and acid reflux issues,

> because he did not do well on medication he precribed (Pepcid, Pentasa,

> Singulair). 's Aloe Vera Juice website it said that all sugars and

> polysaccrides(Sp?) were removed if that is what makes it illegal on SCD.

>

> I am at a stand still and very frustrated because after 3yrs of chelation

> and strict SCD our 7yo son's GI issues still have not been resolved,

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

>

> Also I noticed there was no answer to your question about sugar-free/poly-

sacharride-free aloe vera. Can the moderators say if 's juice has been

explored as

SCD legal? I did not realize they could remove such things!

>

Aloe vera:

It contains mucilaginous polysaccharides as well as increasing the release of

tumor

necrosis factor which is associated with IBD inflammation and increased immune

stimulation.

Carol F. Celiac, SCD 7 years

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne,

<< Thank you for trying to help but our son has stopped chelating for

7months now and GI issues have remained the same. I just don't know

what to do, I do love the SCDiet I think it is extremely healthy but

after seeing that scope which was recently done, we were shocked to see

his gut was worse than before. I do have to say again, it did help

with diarrhea and his colon looked great, but it's frustrating to my

husband and I that his still has inflammation of his stomach which is

causing the acid reflux. We are a standstill right now on what to do.>>

To clarify: recently his colon was good but his upper GI scope was bad

(?). How long ago were both tests done?

What foods is he eating?

Please list all supplements used in the last few months

Are you using yogurt/probiotics?

How long on SCD?

Have you tried any of the natural remedies: extra water daily, small

frequent meals instead of larger less frequent meals, raw garlic.

Has he been tested for a hiatal hernia or H. pylori?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs,

mom of Em and Dan