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My son has been SCD since 3/07. We have followed SCD without

compromise. His language has dramatically improved and he has

more 'good moments' since the diet (where he sits for a few seconds,

quietly). We will not do any other diet as we believe this is the

healthiest way for him. My question is concerning his behavior.

He is doing one of these behaviors almost constantly all day long:

rocking, growling, laughing, snapping his arms, hitting his head,

jumping on his toes while flapping his arms, or echolalia. We are all

at our whits end and I put a msg. into his specialist today to see

about some kind of drug. I want to know if anyone has to put your child

on something to help them slow down or just what you do. Is there

something SCD legal?

Any advise would help. We all feel that we're doing more harm than good

(outside of the diet) since we are so frustrated from trying to make

him stop (and joining him doesn't help as he can out-do us all!).

Thanks,

Thatcher

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Hi ,

<<My son has been SCD since 3/07. We have followed SCD without

> compromise. His language has dramatically improved and he has

> more 'good moments' since the diet (where he sits for a few

seconds,

> quietly). We will not do any other diet as we believe this is the

> healthiest way for him. My question is concerning his behavior.

>

> He is doing one of these behaviors almost constantly all day long:

> rocking, growling, laughing, snapping his arms, hitting his head,

> jumping on his toes while flapping his arms, or echolalia. We are

all > at our whits end and I put a msg. into his specialist today to

see > about some kind of drug. I want to know if anyone has to put

your child > on something to help them slow down or just what you do.

Is there

> something SCD legal?

>

> Any advise would help. We all feel that we're doing more harm than

good

> (outside of the diet) since we are so frustrated from trying to

make > him stop (and joining him doesn't help as he can out-do us

all!).>>

How are his bm's? Any difference preSCD and now?

What foods is he eating?

Does he have any other symptoms: Rashes on skin, tongue, constipation

etc..?

Are you using any probiotics, yogurt etc..?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

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Sheila,

BM's pre-SCD: loose or runny, most of them with undigested food, many times

sandy. SCD BM's: well formed (about 30%), formed at the beginning then turns to

a pile of loose runs (60%), completely runny with undigested food floating in

the toilet (10%). The last 10% has been happening since I stopped pureeing his

vegies recently (trying to get him to start chewing). Usually BM's are dark

brown or orange/brown.

Foods: (all SCD compliant)

applesauce

apple juice from cooked apples (50% water added)

peach sauce

carrots

grn. beans (froz. french cut)

spinach

zucchini (grn. & yellow)

tomato

asparagus

butternut & buttercup squash

garlic

pumpkin

raw banana (occasionally)

pecan butter (occasionally)

avacado (occasionally)

mustard

chicken

beef

pork

bone broth

eggs (8-10 @ brkfst)

olive oil, coconut oil, safflower oil

ea. day:

1 SCDophilus (mixed in morning sauce)

1 Nordic Naturals DHA from Purified Fish Oil

One behavior that I didn't mention is that he can hardly finish his meal (often

still has the food in his mouth) and gets down & jumps around acting like a

crazy person.

Thatcher

3.5, autism, mild CP, SCD since 3/07

any other SCDers in Hawaii w/ASD keiki?

Re: diet & medication

Hi ,

<<My son has been SCD since 3/07. We have followed SCD without

> compromise. His language has dramatically improved and he has

> more 'good moments' since the diet (where he sits for a few

seconds,

> quietly). We will not do any other diet as we believe this is the

> healthiest way for him. My question is concerning his behavior.

>

> He is doing one of these behaviors almost constantly all day long:

> rocking, growling, laughing, snapping his arms, hitting his head,

> jumping on his toes while flapping his arms, or echolalia. We are

all > at our whits end and I put a msg. into his specialist today to

see > about some kind of drug. I want to know if anyone has to put

your child > on something to help them slow down or just what you do.

Is there

> something SCD legal?

>

> Any advise would help. We all feel that we're doing more harm than

good

> (outside of the diet) since we are so frustrated from trying to

make > him stop (and joining him doesn't help as he can out-do us

all!).>>

How are his bm's? Any difference preSCD and now?

What foods is he eating?

Does he have any other symptoms: Rashes on skin, tongue, constipation

etc..?

Are you using any probiotics, yogurt etc..?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

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Hi ,

<<BM's pre-SCD: loose or runny, most of them with undigested food,

many times sandy. SCD BM's: well formed (about 30%), formed at the

beginning then turns to a pile of loose runs (60%), completely runny

with undigested food floating in the toilet (10%). The last 10% has

been happening since I stopped pureeing his vegies recently (trying

to get him to start chewing). Usually BM's are dark brown or

orange/brown.>>

You should probably start pureeing his food again.

The best advice would be to redo the intro for 1-2 days then readd

foods back. It would seem as if he is not tolerating something he is

now eating. If you do this leave enough time between each food to

determine how it is tolerated. If he has a bm every day than you

should be able to see the change in stool that way. So you could try

a new food every1.5 -2 days. If he only has a bm every2-3 days

you'll have to wait longer to see if it is tolerated.

If you want to try this let me know and i'll help you figure which to

add back in first.

8-10 eggs/day is too many. Can you add tolerated veggiesor homemade

burgers etc.. to his breakfast instead?

Are you taking any other supplements?

Is it homemade pecan butter?

Are the zucchini peeled?

Does your mustard have garlic powder or onion powder or " spices " ?

Is your chicken or other meat seasoned?

> Foods: (all SCD compliant)

> applesauce

> apple juice from cooked apples (50% water added)

> peach sauce

> carrots

> grn. beans (froz. french cut)

> spinach

> zucchini (grn. & yellow)

> tomato

> asparagus

> butternut & buttercup squash

> garlic

> pumpkin

> raw banana (occasionally)

> pecan butter (occasionally)

> avacado (occasionally)

> mustard

> chicken

> beef

> pork

> bone broth

> eggs (8-10 @ brkfst)

> olive oil, coconut oil, safflower oil

> ea. day:

> 1 SCDophilus (mixed in morning sauce)

> 1 Nordic Naturals DHA from Purified Fish Oil

>

> One behavior that I didn't mention is that he can hardly finish his

meal (often still has the food in his mouth) and gets down & jumps

around acting like a crazy person.

>

> Thatcher

> 3.5, autism, mild CP, SCD since 3/07

> any other SCDers in Hawaii w/ASD keiki?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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Thank you Sheila for your help and time!

*I'll do the pureeing again.

*After 3 mo. I re-did the intro trying to identify any problems. I really took

it slow....just don't know what I'm looking for I guess. Thank you for the offer

to help me through another one. I'll gear up for this.

*I'll make sure to do more veggies & meat. How many eggs per brkfst would you

suggest?

*No other supplements.

*Yes, it's homemade pecan butter.

*Yes, zucchini are peeled.

*Mustard is Western Family: vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric,

paprika. I'm out of the one we usually use which is the Wal Mart brand.

*Spices I've used: sea salt, whole garlic, dried tarragon, dried oregano, one

time used fresh ground blk. pepper.

Many thanks for all your input on PB.

Thatcher

son , autism, mild CP, SCD since 3/07

Re: diet & medication

Hi ,

<<BM's pre-SCD: loose or runny, most of them with undigested food,

many times sandy. SCD BM's: well formed (about 30%), formed at the

beginning then turns to a pile of loose runs (60%), completely runny

with undigested food floating in the toilet (10%). The last 10% has

been happening since I stopped pureeing his vegies recently (trying

to get him to start chewing). Usually BM's are dark brown or

orange/brown.>>

You should probably start pureeing his food again.

The best advice would be to redo the intro for 1-2 days then readd

foods back. It would seem as if he is not tolerating something he is

now eating. If you do this leave enough time between each food to

determine how it is tolerated. If he has a bm every day than you

should be able to see the change in stool that way. So you could try

a new food every1.5 -2 days. If he only has a bm every2-3 days

you'll have to wait longer to see if it is tolerated.

If you want to try this let me know and i'll help you figure which to

add back in first.

8-10 eggs/day is too many. Can you add tolerated veggiesor homemade

burgers etc.. to his breakfast instead?

Are you taking any other supplements?

Is it homemade pecan butter?

Are the zucchini peeled?

Does your mustard have garlic powder or onion powder or " spices " ?

Is your chicken or other meat seasoned?

> Foods: (all SCD compliant)

> applesauce

> apple juice from cooked apples (50% water added)

> peach sauce

> carrots

> grn. beans (froz. french cut)

> spinach

> zucchini (grn. & yellow)

> tomato

> asparagus

> butternut & buttercup squash

> garlic

> pumpkin

> raw banana (occasionally)

> pecan butter (occasionally)

> avacado (occasionally)

> mustard

> chicken

> beef

> pork

> bone broth

> eggs (8-10 @ brkfst)

> olive oil, coconut oil, safflower oil

> ea. day:

> 1 SCDophilus (mixed in morning sauce)

> 1 Nordic Naturals DHA from Purified Fish Oil

>

> One behavior that I didn't mention is that he can hardly finish his

meal (often still has the food in his mouth) and gets down & jumps

around acting like a crazy person.

>

> Thatcher

> 3.5, autism, mild CP, SCD since 3/07

> any other SCDers in Hawaii w/ASD keiki?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi ,

<< *After 3 mo. I re-did the intro trying to identify any problems. I

really took it slow....just don't know what I'm looking for I guess.>>

Mostly looking for 's stools to firm up more.

Does he have any other symptoms; yeast symptoms etc(white spots on

tongue, rashes on skin, rash on bottom etc..)..?

<<Thank you for the offer to help me through another one. I'll gear up

for this.>>

<<*I'll make sure to do more veggies & meat. How many eggs per brkfst

would you suggest?>>

Elaine rec'd 3-4 eggs per day as a maximum; not countingg eggs in baked

goods.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23 yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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