Update and question about - now B-12 methylating mecury

July 22, 2007

I am new here, but I wanted to share something I came across about

B12. I realize that it is part of the SCD protocol but it would be

worth exploring perhaps. I used to have B12 injections, even when I

was pregnant... however when I was at DR. Huggins clinic in Colorado

he was adamant that NONE of us should ever supplement with (unless

from food) or have injections of b-12. He could not be more

passionate about this. I don't believe he is the 'be all' by any

means, but I loved the fact that he said it's not him telling us how

to eat or change our lifestyles- it's our own blood chemistries that

guide us to EACH find what our bodies need. He says that in order to

move blood chemistries into optimal ranges- there are certain

protocols to be followed and then tweaked for each person- ie. the

Ancestral Diet (not Blood type diet) but eating what we were

intended to eat. If anyone is not familiar with Huggins, he was the

pioneer in blowing the whistle on mercury amalgam fillings. He has

many awesome books and has been helping people to get well by

following a strict protocol of removing mercury fillings etc. and

properly chelating heavy metals out. He also gave us case histories

of people that had made so much progress then had B-12 injections

and became either ill or lost alot of ground because of the mercury

being methylated! Obviously this doesn't happen to everyone, but I

have alot of mercury so it's something for me to avoid.

Anyhow, enough of that, back to B-12

I have his notes here somewhere, ok...here is one part:

<snip of quote by Dr. Huggins> Many times when giving Vitamin C,

they will also try to give B12, which is a methylator, in any form.

Methylation of mercury is much more toxic. It it very common to put

B vitamins in an IV solution from these doctors. B12 always present

in B complex supplements, usually 150 micrograms. B12 supplements

1000x more. This will result in a huge insult of methyl mercury.

Will cause a secondary immune response like nausea, diarrhea,

vomiting, headaches, bringing back whatever your original problem

is. <end snip>

but I also just came across the same thing in:

Optimal Nutrition for Optimal Health (The Real Truth about eAting

Right, weight loss, detoxification, low cholesterol, better

digestion and overall WEll-being) by E. Levy M.D., J.D.

Vitamin B-12: important for the maintenance of proper nerve function

and blood synthesis. Unless a clear deficiency syndrome exists

(pernicious anemia and/or markedly low blood levels of the vitamin)

consider AVOIDING ANY SUPPLEMENTATION, since supplement forms of

B12can promote the METHYLATION of inorganic mercury in the body

making it MUCH MORE TOXIC and causing clinical compromise. Common

dietary sourcess: meat, seafood, poultry.

> I think it was the folinic acid/B12. We stopped it for one day and

the

> circles got better, we tried it again the next, and bam, the

shiners

> were back. The odd thing is that I know it is SCD legal and even my

> " NT " child reacted this way to taking it. Now I'm afraid to take

it at

> all, but I know we aren't getting hardly any folate in our diet

right

> now and B12 is on the SCD protocol,

July 23, 2007

Hmm, interesting info. I'll keep that in mind. Surprisingly, I don't

think we have much of an issue with mercury though.

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of

June 2007 and are struggling to find tolerated foods)

>

> I am new here, but I wanted to share something I came across about

> B12. I realize that it is part of the SCD protocol but it would be

> worth exploring perhaps. I used to have B12 injections, even when I

> was pregnant... however when I was at DR. Huggins clinic in Colorado

> he was adamant that NONE of us should ever supplement with (unless

> from food) or have injections of b-12. He could not be more

> passionate about this. I don't believe he is the 'be all' by any

> means, but I loved the fact that he said it's not him telling us how

> to eat or change our lifestyles- it's our own blood chemistries that

> guide us to EACH find what our bodies need. He says that in order to

> move blood chemistries into optimal ranges- there are certain

> protocols to be followed and then tweaked for each person- ie. the

> Ancestral Diet (not Blood type diet) but eating what we were

> intended to eat. If anyone is not familiar with Huggins, he was the

> pioneer in blowing the whistle on mercury amalgam fillings. He has

> many awesome books and has been helping people to get well by

> following a strict protocol of removing mercury fillings etc. and

> properly chelating heavy metals out. He also gave us case histories

> of people that had made so much progress then had B-12 injections

> and became either ill or lost alot of ground because of the mercury

> being methylated! Obviously this doesn't happen to everyone, but I

> have alot of mercury so it's something for me to avoid.

>

> Anyhow, enough of that, back to B-12

> I have his notes here somewhere, ok...here is one part:

>

> <snip of quote by Dr. Huggins> Many times when giving Vitamin C,

> they will also try to give B12, which is a methylator, in any form.

> Methylation of mercury is much more toxic. It it very common to put

> B vitamins in an IV solution from these doctors. B12 always present

> in B complex supplements, usually 150 micrograms. B12 supplements

> 1000x more. This will result in a huge insult of methyl mercury.

> Will cause a secondary immune response like nausea, diarrhea,

> vomiting, headaches, bringing back whatever your original problem

> is. <end snip>

>

> but I also just came across the same thing in:

>

> Optimal Nutrition for Optimal Health (The Real Truth about eAting

> Right, weight loss, detoxification, low cholesterol, better

> digestion and overall WEll-being) by E. Levy M.D., J.D.

>

> Vitamin B-12: important for the maintenance of proper nerve function

> and blood synthesis. Unless a clear deficiency syndrome exists

> (pernicious anemia and/or markedly low blood levels of the vitamin)

> consider AVOIDING ANY SUPPLEMENTATION, since supplement forms of

> B12can promote the METHYLATION of inorganic mercury in the body

> making it MUCH MORE TOXIC and causing clinical compromise. Common

> dietary sourcess: meat, seafood, poultry.

>

> > I think it was the folinic acid/B12. We stopped it for one day and

> the

> > circles got better, we tried it again the next, and bam, the

> shiners

> > were back. The odd thing is that I know it is SCD legal and even my

> > " NT " child reacted this way to taking it. Now I'm afraid to take

> it at

> > all, but I know we aren't getting hardly any folate in our diet

> right

> > now and B12 is on the SCD protocol,

>

July 23, 2007

Keep in mind that Dr. Huggins findings are in direct opposition of what other

doctors are finding. In a published study, Dr. Jill found that MB-12

elevated glutathione levels in kids with autism. Glutathione is key in the

body's natural ability to remove mercury.

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