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Hello ;

I am usually adamant about having links or books to back up things I

say, however, in this instance, regarding the Visionware I only have

my own hair analysis, Dr. Huggins verbal information at the week

long Chemistry Balancing Intensive that I went to and advice from

many alternative healing groups/members. This was more then enough

for me. ;-)

Besides their testing, Dr. Huggins also indicated that if you leave

water in a pan- be it Visionware or STainless Steel- leave it

overnight and then taste it the next morning and you will be able to

taste the contaminants. Also on a Colloidal Silver egroup that I

belonged to for years, this was a topic that came up last year. The

discussion on VIsionware/Cookware went on for days with the veteran

members of the group as I was SHOCKED to hear it as well. I

immediately stopped using them when we returned from Colorado.

Unfortunately that particular list group was not a yahoo one and it

has crashed and it was devestating to lose all of the archvies, so I

can't even go after the information. Many of them in that group i

would classify as extremely brilliant backyard chemists and I know

the information was enough to ditch all of my collection, and a nice

colleciton I had! ;-)

Incidentally my latest hair analysis came back, and although I have

had my amalgams removed exactly 1 yr ago, and I have done megadosing

with sodium ascorbate (vit c) to chelate out heavy metals, we have

also stopped using the visionware pots. My aluminum, arsenic,

bismuth, lead, tin and titanium are all DRASTICALLY changed (for the

better). In fact the bismuth went from the 95th percentile (almost

off the chart HIGH) to hardly detectable!!! My hair analysis from

the year 2000 shows no bismuth reading at all... this was prior to

using these pots. For years I have not used any teflon, non stick

anything, no microwave, virtually no plastic if we can get around

it, etc. so when I saw my hair analysis last year I was dumbfounded-

I couldn't figure out where all this stuff was coming from.

Obviously some comes from our air, and some of the arsenic may be

from the plywood after we ripped up carpets, but the others- I truly

don't know- it's nice to see such a dramatic decrease though, I'll

definately maintain the megadosing of sodium ascorbate and vit c

flushes.

Here's what Doctors Data Lab in the U.S. says about bismuth:

Sources of Bi include: cosmetics (lipstick), Bi containing

medications such as rantidine Bi-citrate, antacides (pepto Bismol),

PIGMENTS USED IN COLORED GLASS AND CERAMICS, dental cement and dry

cell battery electrodes.

Symptoms of moderate Bi toxiciity include: constipation or bowel

irregularity, foul breath, blue/black gum line, and malaise. Highe

levels of Bi accumulation can result in nephrotoxicity (nephrosis,

proteinurea) and neurotoxicity (tremor, memory loss, monoclonic

jerks, dysarthria, dementia)

urine elements analysis can be used to corroborate BI absorption for

a period of days or a few weeks after the exposure. Cithiol

chelating/complexing agents (DMPS,DMSA) markedly reduced Bi levels

in liver and kidneys, and increased Bi in urine in animal studies.

======================================

In my opinoin, obviously there is no governing body that will tell

you these pots leach heavy metals. I can tell you that when I was

looking to purchase them years ago, I discovered they were suddently

no longer available here and that they were only being manufactured

in hong kong... or was it china? Although you can find them at

outlet stores here or garage sales - my understanding is that they

are not produced here.

However, in the same breath- aluminum is still used in cookware, and

yet most of the world avoids it because of the alzheimers 'possible'

connection....and of course the whole vaccine issue can be applied

here as well. Lots of people have devestating effects from it, but

no one admits they are dangerous. Teflon, non stick pans,

microwaves, even toaster ovens with their coating on theinside that

is subjected to high heats etc. - many people still use them because

the government hasn't stepped in to say they are dangerous, and yet

when I started researching all this, I drew my own conclusions and

tried to decrease our exposure to all of it as much as possible.

I hope some of this helps to explain my opinions and conclusions.

warmly

wendy

canada

>

> Hi ,

>

> Where did you find the information about Visions

> leaching heavy metals? I am very interested (and

> concerned) as I use Corning Visions cranberry pots.

>

> Before I bought them, I called the company. Corning

> was adamant that there are no metals in their Visions

> cookware. Like you, I was looking for a safer

> alternative, having been diagnosed with nickel

> poisoning and being advised to avoid stainless steel.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

> > Years ago, I used to cook with Visionware (the glass

> > pots in brown

> > or amber) thinking they were better then others

> > because they were

> > glass. Then, i found out they leach heavy metals

> > from the dyes!!! No

> > wonder my kids have heavy metals in their hair

> > analysis! (well that

> > and they breastfed for years)

>

>

>

>

_____________________________________________________________________

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,

If you don't use metal, non stick or other cookware, then what do you use?

Where did you have your fillings removed? Was all of this natural chelating and

such done before or after your pregnancy? Were you nursing?

Meleah

P.S. Feel free to email me off list since this is off topic.

rmcorner@...

Re: Cookware--OT-

Hello ;

I am usually adamant about having links or books to back up things I

say, however, in this instance, regarding the Visionware I only have

my own hair analysis, Dr. Huggins verbal information at the week

long Chemistry Balancing Intensive that I went to and advice from

many alternative healing groups/members. This was more then enough

for me. ;-)

Besides their testing, Dr. Huggins also indicated that if you leave

water in a pan- be it Visionware or STainless Steel- leave it

overnight and then taste it the next morning and you will be able to

taste the contaminants. Also on a Colloidal Silver egroup that I

belonged to for years, this was a topic that came up last year. The

discussion on VIsionware/Cookware went on for days with the veteran

members of the group as I was SHOCKED to hear it as well. I

immediately stopped using them when we returned from Colorado.

Unfortunately that particular list group was not a yahoo one and it

has crashed and it was devestating to lose all of the archvies, so I

can't even go after the information. Many of them in that group i

would classify as extremely brilliant backyard chemists and I know

the information was enough to ditch all of my collection, and a nice

colleciton I had! ;-)

Incidentally my latest hair analysis came back, and although I have

had my amalgams removed exactly 1 yr ago, and I have done megadosing

with sodium ascorbate (vit c) to chelate out heavy metals, we have

also stopped using the visionware pots. My aluminum, arsenic,

bismuth, lead, tin and titanium are all DRASTICALLY changed (for the

better). In fact the bismuth went from the 95th percentile (almost

off the chart HIGH) to hardly detectable!!! My hair analysis from

the year 2000 shows no bismuth reading at all... this was prior to

using these pots. For years I have not used any teflon, non stick

anything, no microwave, virtually no plastic if we can get around

it, etc. so when I saw my hair analysis last year I was dumbfounded-

I couldn't figure out where all this stuff was coming from.

Obviously some comes from our air, and some of the arsenic may be

from the plywood after we ripped up carpets, but the others- I truly

don't know- it's nice to see such a dramatic decrease though, I'll

definately maintain the megadosing of sodium ascorbate and vit c

flushes.

Here's what Doctors Data Lab in the U.S. says about bismuth:

Sources of Bi include: cosmetics (lipstick), Bi containing

medications such as rantidine Bi-citrate, antacides (pepto Bismol),

PIGMENTS USED IN COLORED GLASS AND CERAMICS, dental cement and dry

cell battery electrodes.

Symptoms of moderate Bi toxiciity include: constipation or bowel

irregularity, foul breath, blue/black gum line, and malaise. Highe

levels of Bi accumulation can result in nephrotoxicity (nephrosis,

proteinurea) and neurotoxicity (tremor, memory loss, monoclonic

jerks, dysarthria, dementia)

urine elements analysis can be used to corroborate BI absorption for

a period of days or a few weeks after the exposure. Cithiol

chelating/complexing agents (DMPS,DMSA) markedly reduced Bi levels

in liver and kidneys, and increased Bi in urine in animal studies.

======================================

In my opinoin, obviously there is no governing body that will tell

you these pots leach heavy metals. I can tell you that when I was

looking to purchase them years ago, I discovered they were suddently

no longer available here and that they were only being manufactured

in hong kong... or was it china? Although you can find them at

outlet stores here or garage sales - my understanding is that they

are not produced here.

However, in the same breath- aluminum is still used in cookware, and

yet most of the world avoids it because of the alzheimers 'possible'

connection....and of course the whole vaccine issue can be applied

here as well. Lots of people have devestating effects from it, but

no one admits they are dangerous. Teflon, non stick pans,

microwaves, even toaster ovens with their coating on theinside that

is subjected to high heats etc. - many people still use them because

the government hasn't stepped in to say they are dangerous, and yet

when I started researching all this, I drew my own conclusions and

tried to decrease our exposure to all of it as much as possible.

I hope some of this helps to explain my opinions and conclusions.

warmly

wendy

canada

>

> Hi ,

>

> Where did you find the information about Visions

> leaching heavy metals? I am very interested (and

> concerned) as I use Corning Visions cranberry pots.

>

> Before I bought them, I called the company. Corning

> was adamant that there are no metals in their Visions

> cookware. Like you, I was looking for a safer

> alternative, having been diagnosed with nickel

> poisoning and being advised to avoid stainless steel.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

> > Years ago, I used to cook with Visionware (the glass

> > pots in brown

> > or amber) thinking they were better then others

> > because they were

> > glass. Then, i found out they leach heavy metals

> > from the dyes!!! No

> > wonder my kids have heavy metals in their hair

> > analysis! (well that

> > and they breastfed for years)

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________________

_______________

> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your

pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

> http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

>

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, Thank you for all the information. I would like to know also about the

type of chelation you used and the specific cookware to use, especially

something to replace the non-stick stuff. Please email me off list too.

Thank you sooo much.

Ximena

robin wrote:

,

If you don't use metal, non stick or other cookware, then what do you use? Where

did you have your fillings removed? Was all of this natural chelating and such

done before or after your pregnancy? Were you nursing?

Meleah

P.S. Feel free to email me off list since this is off topic.

rmcorner@...

Re: Cookware--OT-

Hello ;

I am usually adamant about having links or books to back up things I

say, however, in this instance, regarding the Visionware I only have

my own hair analysis, Dr. Huggins verbal information at the week

long Chemistry Balancing Intensive that I went to and advice from

many alternative healing groups/members. This was more then enough

for me. ;-)

Besides their testing, Dr. Huggins also indicated that if you leave

water in a pan- be it Visionware or STainless Steel- leave it

overnight and then taste it the next morning and you will be able to

taste the contaminants. Also on a Colloidal Silver egroup that I

belonged to for years, this was a topic that came up last year. The

discussion on VIsionware/Cookware went on for days with the veteran

members of the group as I was SHOCKED to hear it as well. I

immediately stopped using them when we returned from Colorado.

Unfortunately that particular list group was not a yahoo one and it

has crashed and it was devestating to lose all of the archvies, so I

can't even go after the information. Many of them in that group i

would classify as extremely brilliant backyard chemists and I know

the information was enough to ditch all of my collection, and a nice

colleciton I had! ;-)

Incidentally my latest hair analysis came back, and although I have

had my amalgams removed exactly 1 yr ago, and I have done megadosing

with sodium ascorbate (vit c) to chelate out heavy metals, we have

also stopped using the visionware pots. My aluminum, arsenic,

bismuth, lead, tin and titanium are all DRASTICALLY changed (for the

better). In fact the bismuth went from the 95th percentile (almost

off the chart HIGH) to hardly detectable!!! My hair analysis from

the year 2000 shows no bismuth reading at all... this was prior to

using these pots. For years I have not used any teflon, non stick

anything, no microwave, virtually no plastic if we can get around

it, etc. so when I saw my hair analysis last year I was dumbfounded-

I couldn't figure out where all this stuff was coming from.

Obviously some comes from our air, and some of the arsenic may be

from the plywood after we ripped up carpets, but the others- I truly

don't know- it's nice to see such a dramatic decrease though, I'll

definately maintain the megadosing of sodium ascorbate and vit c

flushes.

Here's what Doctors Data Lab in the U.S. says about bismuth:

Sources of Bi include: cosmetics (lipstick), Bi containing

medications such as rantidine Bi-citrate, antacides (pepto Bismol),

PIGMENTS USED IN COLORED GLASS AND CERAMICS, dental cement and dry

cell battery electrodes.

Symptoms of moderate Bi toxiciity include: constipation or bowel

irregularity, foul breath, blue/black gum line, and malaise. Highe

levels of Bi accumulation can result in nephrotoxicity (nephrosis,

proteinurea) and neurotoxicity (tremor, memory loss, monoclonic

jerks, dysarthria, dementia)

urine elements analysis can be used to corroborate BI absorption for

a period of days or a few weeks after the exposure. Cithiol

chelating/complexing agents (DMPS,DMSA) markedly reduced Bi levels

in liver and kidneys, and increased Bi in urine in animal studies.

======================================

In my opinoin, obviously there is no governing body that will tell

you these pots leach heavy metals. I can tell you that when I was

looking to purchase them years ago, I discovered they were suddently

no longer available here and that they were only being manufactured

in hong kong... or was it china? Although you can find them at

outlet stores here or garage sales - my understanding is that they

are not produced here.

However, in the same breath- aluminum is still used in cookware, and

yet most of the world avoids it because of the alzheimers 'possible'

connection....and of course the whole vaccine issue can be applied

here as well. Lots of people have devestating effects from it, but

no one admits they are dangerous. Teflon, non stick pans,

microwaves, even toaster ovens with their coating on theinside that

is subjected to high heats etc. - many people still use them because

the government hasn't stepped in to say they are dangerous, and yet

when I started researching all this, I drew my own conclusions and

tried to decrease our exposure to all of it as much as possible.

I hope some of this helps to explain my opinions and conclusions.

warmly

wendy

canada

>

> Hi ,

>

> Where did you find the information about Visions

> leaching heavy metals? I am very interested (and

> concerned) as I use Corning Visions cranberry pots.

>

> Before I bought them, I called the company. Corning

> was adamant that there are no metals in their Visions

> cookware. Like you, I was looking for a safer

> alternative, having been diagnosed with nickel

> poisoning and being advised to avoid stainless steel.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

>

> > Years ago, I used to cook with Visionware (the glass

> > pots in brown

> > or amber) thinking they were better then others

> > because they were

> > glass. Then, i found out they leach heavy metals

> > from the dyes!!! No

> > wonder my kids have heavy metals in their hair

> > analysis! (well that

> > and they breastfed for years)

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________________

_______________

> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your

pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

> http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

>

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