Update- I think I finally figured it out!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Well, for those of you that have been following my posts, you know we

have struggled to find tolerated foods, or so I thought! Turns out it

might have been my preparation methods that were to blame and not the

challenged foods. I have discovered that my son can only tolerate

carbs that have been pureed to death. Previously I had been sometimes

only mashing the carrots and squash with a fork, well this just isn't

enough for my son's sensitive gut. I've finally put all the pieces

together and figured this out!!! So all those times when I tried to

introduce say banana, and looser stools returned I logically blamed

the banana. Well it turns out that it was most likely carrot or winter

squash eaten that same day that simply wasn't pureed. Now that I'm

pureeing everything, he has tolerated ripe banana, winter squash,

carrots, zucchini, and tomato juice cooked down into sauce (although

the salicylates in the tomato still made him hyper). But this is huge

news for us. I can't wait to try other foods and see what he can truly

tolerate now that I know every carb must be pureed for him and we

aren't muddying the waters with improper preparation of foods.

Today he had a wonderful " trophy " in his diaper, a completely normal

bowel movement, no trace of looseness at all! 100% formed! Tomorrow is

his 5th birthday. I will remember this birthday as such a milestone

for him. I think we are really on the road to gut healing now!

Thank you to everyone who has listened to my posts and helped us along

our way. I'm sure we have more hurdles to cross, but I'm feeling

confident tonight that we can do this!

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that all carbs must be thoroughly pureed

in order for him to tolerate them).

[Guest guest]

Wow that is very exciting news for you all - well done! And thank you so

muh for

sharing this as it may be what is causing my son to show similar problems with

new foods.

The only time my son was truely mellow (although he was very lethargic) was on

the intro

diet and even though things are going great with him and we are seeing very

significant

gains we are getting lots of stimming on and off. I had a feeling it was

possibly carot or

pear that he seemed to tolerate sometimes and not others. Have you found that

you need

to cook the carbs for a long time too, or is it just the pureeing that makes the

difference.

Anyway you all enjoy your sons 5th birthday!!

All the best

Sophie x

>

> Well, for those of you that have been following my posts, you know we

> have struggled to find tolerated foods, or so I thought! Turns out it

> might have been my preparation methods that were to blame and not the

> challenged foods. I have discovered that my son can only tolerate

> carbs that have been pureed to death. Previously I had been sometimes

> only mashing the carrots and squash with a fork, well this just isn't

> enough for my son's sensitive gut. I've finally put all the pieces

> together and figured this out!!! So all those times when I tried to

> introduce say banana, and looser stools returned I logically blamed

> the banana. Well it turns out that it was most likely carrot or winter

> squash eaten that same day that simply wasn't pureed. Now that I'm

> pureeing everything, he has tolerated ripe banana, winter squash,

> carrots, zucchini, and tomato juice cooked down into sauce (although

> the salicylates in the tomato still made him hyper). But this is huge

> news for us. I can't wait to try other foods and see what he can truly

> tolerate now that I know every carb must be pureed for him and we

> aren't muddying the waters with improper preparation of foods.

>

> Today he had a wonderful " trophy " in his diaper, a completely normal

> bowel movement, no trace of looseness at all! 100% formed! Tomorrow is

> his 5th birthday. I will remember this birthday as such a milestone

> for him. I think we are really on the road to gut healing now!

>

> Thank you to everyone who has listened to my posts and helped us along

> our way. I'm sure we have more hurdles to cross, but I'm feeling

> confident tonight that we can do this!

>

> K in Dayton, Ohio

> Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

> adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

> Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

> yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

> old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

> Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

> on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

> 2007 and recently discovered that all carbs must be thoroughly pureed

> in order for him to tolerate them).

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, for those of you that have been following my posts, you know we

> have struggled to find tolerated foods, or so I thought! Turns out it

> might have been my preparation methods that were to blame and not the

> challenged foods. I have discovered that my son can only tolerate

> carbs that have been pureed to death. Previously I had been sometimes

> only mashing the carrots and squash with a fork, well this just isn't

> enough for my son's sensitive gut. I've finally put all the pieces

> together and figured this out!!!

Sounds more like you got all the pieces apart LOL.

Mimi, Sheila and I are great believers that when things are not going well, very

often it is

some small detail like this that has been overlooked.

Congrats on your first trophy. I don't suggest having it bronzed but wish you

many more!

Carol F.

SCD 7 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Yes, most carbs I have found need to be cooked for a decent amount of

time, just enough to make sure they are really soft before pureeing.

But the pureeing is the critical step. I can cook carrots forever and

mash them with a fork and he won't tolerate them, if they are pureed

though, he tolerates them fine. Much as you described, I was wondering

why some days he seemed to tolerate winter squash and carrots okay and

others not. I put it together that he tolerated the pumpkin pie

filling (made with winter squash) just fine but often not the simple

baked squash. This blew my mind for a while until I reflected on the

fact that carrots need to be pureed for some kids to tolerate them. I

thought, what if the fork mashing sometimes isn't enough? I thought,

oh crap, the pumpkin pie is pureed! That was the key. So no more

mashing with a fork for me, I think I'm going to wear out my hand

blender now, LOL!

The only thing so far that doesn't need to be cooked is ripe banana,

he can tolerate that raw and in fact, he can even tolerate it mashed

with a fork, LOL! But just to be safe, I've been pureeing it as well!

:-) It is funny that I thought the bananas were the problem, when it

turns out he really does tolerate them amazingly. It was the fork

mashed carrot and winter squash all along!

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and just discovered that all carbs must be pureed, not just

mashed with a fork!, in order for him to tolerate them)

>

> Wow that is very exciting news for you all - well done! And

thank you so muh for

> sharing this as it may be what is causing my son to show similar

problems with new foods.

> The only time my son was truely mellow (although he was very

lethargic) was on the intro

> diet and even though things are going great with him and we are

seeing very significant

> gains we are getting lots of stimming on and off. I had a feeling it

was possibly carot or

> pear that he seemed to tolerate sometimes and not others. Have you

found that you need

> to cook the carbs for a long time too, or is it just the pureeing

that makes the difference.

>

> Anyway you all enjoy your sons 5th birthday!!

>

> All the best

>

> Sophie x

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, yes I guess I did finally get all the pieces " apart " LOL! Yes it

is amazing how one small detail could blur our ability to challenge

new foods and to make progress. I kept wondering why I couldn't repeat

the success of our first day on the intro diet even when we went back

to those foods I KNEW he could tolerate. After that, I kept thinking

to myself, what if it is the squash? And then I would remember, no we

had pumpkin pie filling made with squash with excellent results,(it is

quite the staple in our house) it can't be the squash. Then it dawned

on me that the pumpkin pie filling was pureed! What if squash needs to

be pureed like the carrots? Once I started ensuring everything was

pureed and not just fork mashed, well, voila!

So from now on I'll be singing the praises of fanatical food

preparation! It really does matter to some kids' guts how this stuff

is prepared. It makes a world of difference.

Thanks for all your help. And no, I didn't have it bronzed, but I did

have to fight the urge to take a picture of it!!!!! :-)

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and just discovered that all carbs need to be thoroughly pureed

in order for my son to tolerate them)

>

> Sounds more like you got all the pieces apart LOL.

>

> Mimi, Sheila and I are great believers that when things are not

going well, very often it is

> some small detail like this that has been overlooked.

>

> Congrats on your first trophy. I don't suggest having it bronzed but

wish you many more!

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 7 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, most carbs I have found need to be cooked for a decent amount of

> time, just enough to make sure they are really soft before pureeing.

> But the pureeing is the critical step.

I have a little joke for you and then a suggestion:

Max and Minnie were married. Max adored Minnie and was vey tunred on by her and

they

played roamantic game, one being " hide and seek. " One day Max came home early

and

called Minnie and she said, " I'm hiding. "

Max answered, " But Minnie, i want to make passionate love to you. Where are you

hiding? "

Again Minnie sjust aid in a sing song voice, " I'm hiding. "

" Well, " Max replied, " I brought you home a diamond bracelet and a mink coat

where are

you? "

" I'm hiding, " Minnie replied, " in the front closet. "

Which brings me to suggestion that you can hide pureed vegeatbles in burgers,

meat

loaves, pancakes and even baked goods like carrot cake and zucchini cake.

Carol F.

Silly celliac, SCD 7 years

[Guest guest]

LOL! Thanks. I'm going to try and hide some pureed spinach in a

meatloaf for lunch today! :-)

>

> I have a little joke for you and then a suggestion:

>

> Max and Minnie were married. Max adored Minnie and was vey tunred on

by her and they

> played roamantic game, one being " hide and seek. " One day Max came

home early and

> called Minnie and she said, " I'm hiding. "

> Max answered, " But Minnie, i want to make passionate love to you.

Where are you hiding? "

> Again Minnie sjust aid in a sing song voice, " I'm hiding. "

> " Well, " Max replied, " I brought you home a diamond bracelet and a

mink coat where are

> you? "

> " I'm hiding, " Minnie replied, " in the front closet. "

>

> Which brings me to suggestion that you can hide pureed vegeatbles in

burgers, meat

> loaves, pancakes and even baked goods like carrot cake and zucchini

cake.

>

> Carol F.

> Silly celliac, SCD 7 years

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I cannot tolerate the squashes very much. I'm going to try your trick of

pureeing it to see if it helps .

Thanks,

Debbie 38 crohn's

pentasa

scd 1/07

>

> LOL! Thanks. I'm going to try and hide some pureed spinach in a

> meatloaf for lunch today! :-)

>

>

> >

>

> > I have a little joke for you and then a suggestion:

> >

> > Max and Minnie were married. Max adored Minnie and was vey tunred on

> by her and they

> > played roamantic game, one being " hide and seek. " One day Max came

> home early and

> > called Minnie and she said, " I'm hiding. "

> > Max answered, " But Minnie, i want to make passionate love to you.

> Where are you hiding? "

> > Again Minnie sjust aid in a sing song voice, " I'm hiding. "

> > " Well, " Max replied, " I brought you home a diamond bracelet and a

> mink coat where are

> > you? "

> > " I'm hiding, " Minnie replied, " in the front closet. "

> >

> > Which brings me to suggestion that you can hide pureed vegeatbles in

> burgers, meat

> > loaves, pancakes and even baked goods like carrot cake and zucchini

> cake.

> >

> > Carol F.

> > Silly celliac, SCD 7 years

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for all your help. And no, I didn't have it bronzed, but I did

> have to fight the urge to take a picture of it!!!!! :-)

Congrats on your amazing detective work!!! And just look how it has

paid off. I am so glad you posted this. It is a reminder to all of

just how important the details and going slow are. I am one to find

ways to make daily things quicker/easier in life, but this is one area

where it definately does not pay off. Thanks so much for sharing!!!

BTW, I do take pictures of my son's BMs. I hope I do not scare him for

life. LOL!

Summer

mom to Josh, 3yo, SCD July 07

[Guest guest]

Hopefully pureeing will help. I'll cross my fingers for you!

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them)

>

> Hi

>

> I cannot tolerate the squashes very much. I'm going to try your

trick of

> pureeing it to see if it helps .

>

> Thanks,

> Debbie 38 crohn's

> pentasa

> scd 1/07

[Guest guest]

LOL! That is awesome. Glad to know that I'm not the only one that has

had the urge to take a picture of a " trophy. " I'm kinda wishing now

that I had taken pictures of his really bad ones just to prove that it

used to be that bad and has improved so greatly, LOL!

And yes, it was a huge wake up for me about just how important the

smallest details are when attempting to heal the gut. I mean the fact

that the gut can tell the difference between a hand blender and a

fork, LOL! Picky picky sensitive guts, LOL. :-)

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue(mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Just redid intro the last week of

June 2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be

thoroughly pureed in order for my son to tolerate them)

>

> > Thanks for all your help. And no, I didn't have it bronzed, but I did

> > have to fight the urge to take a picture of it!!!!! :-)

>

> Congrats on your amazing detective work!!! And just look how it has

> paid off. I am so glad you posted this. It is a reminder to all of

> just how important the details and going slow are. I am one to find

> ways to make daily things quicker/easier in life, but this is one area

> where it definately does not pay off. Thanks so much for sharing!!!

>

> BTW, I do take pictures of my son's BMs. I hope I do not scare him for

> life. LOL!

>

> Summer

> mom to Josh, 3yo, SCD July 07

>