Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Thanks Tarri, I am not sure I have enought equity built up in my house to take another mortgage out on my house. Even if I do I dont think I can afford to pay the payment , lol. SO that way it could be a no win situation. Let me know how you make out Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Thanks Tarri, I am not sure I have enought equity built up in my house to take another mortgage out on my house. Even if I do I dont think I can afford to pay the payment , lol. SO that way it could be a no win situation. Let me know how you make out Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat, My heart aches for you. As you are aware, I am in the process of an appeal too. I took out a second mortgage on the house to self-pay and now I am still fighting to get them to cover. Ask for a copy of the medical necessity criteria that they used. I got a copy and guess what. Even though they have said three times that I didn't meet the criteria I DO> I had Missouri Insurance Commission review the criteria and guess what - THEY SAID I MEET TOO and sent a letter to Premier saying why are you denying when its clear that your own criteria is met. I still have to go the Grievance Committee meeting in Springfield on Tuesday - why I don't know. I will be praying for a sense of peace and patience for you as we collectively find out what is the next step we need to take to get you to the dance. Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/270 Now what do I do?? So depressed!!!!!!!!!!! > Well gang, my worst nightmare has come true. I just got a call and I > have been denied by my insurance company. I am so depressed as I sit > here in my office tears running down my face. They denied me because > they say that medical necessity was not proven and no eating disorder > was identified. > I am 52 years old, 5'6 338lbs, BMI 54, sleep apnea, GERD,Hiatal > Hernia,High Blood Pressure and Arthritis so bad in both knees and > back that there are days I can hardly walk. They had about 4lbs of > documentation and then have the balls to deny me saying no medical > necessity was proven. I am so angry and upset right now. > There is no way that I can afford this surgery on my own, so I dont > know what to do. At this point I would sell my body, if I thought > anyone would want it, just to have this surgery. > I will appeal but that will take time and I dont want to wait that > long. At the rate they take I may gain another 50lbs and then be > ineligible. I am so damm depressed. > Pat Iurato > Nevada hopeless > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat, My heart aches for you. As you are aware, I am in the process of an appeal too. I took out a second mortgage on the house to self-pay and now I am still fighting to get them to cover. Ask for a copy of the medical necessity criteria that they used. I got a copy and guess what. Even though they have said three times that I didn't meet the criteria I DO> I had Missouri Insurance Commission review the criteria and guess what - THEY SAID I MEET TOO and sent a letter to Premier saying why are you denying when its clear that your own criteria is met. I still have to go the Grievance Committee meeting in Springfield on Tuesday - why I don't know. I will be praying for a sense of peace and patience for you as we collectively find out what is the next step we need to take to get you to the dance. Tarri in Missouri MGB 09-29-00 329/270 Now what do I do?? So depressed!!!!!!!!!!! > Well gang, my worst nightmare has come true. I just got a call and I > have been denied by my insurance company. I am so depressed as I sit > here in my office tears running down my face. They denied me because > they say that medical necessity was not proven and no eating disorder > was identified. > I am 52 years old, 5'6 338lbs, BMI 54, sleep apnea, GERD,Hiatal > Hernia,High Blood Pressure and Arthritis so bad in both knees and > back that there are days I can hardly walk. They had about 4lbs of > documentation and then have the balls to deny me saying no medical > necessity was proven. I am so angry and upset right now. > There is no way that I can afford this surgery on my own, so I dont > know what to do. At this point I would sell my body, if I thought > anyone would want it, just to have this surgery. > I will appeal but that will take time and I dont want to wait that > long. At the rate they take I may gain another 50lbs and then be > ineligible. I am so damm depressed. > Pat Iurato > Nevada hopeless > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Oh Pat...I am so sorry! But don't give up, if ANY of us pre-ops give up...then they will keep trying to to this to us. I expect the same fight when I get to that stage. What kind of insurance do you have? Sonya in Wilmington, NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Oh Pat...I am so sorry! But don't give up, if ANY of us pre-ops give up...then they will keep trying to to this to us. I expect the same fight when I get to that stage. What kind of insurance do you have? Sonya in Wilmington, NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Thanks for the encouraging words Cathy. This time I will fight to the end with this insurance company. They just dont know what a battle they will be in for with me. Pat Iurato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Thanks for the encouraging words Cathy. This time I will fight to the end with this insurance company. They just dont know what a battle they will be in for with me. Pat Iurato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Hi Bonnie, I dont know if I can take out of my retirement money. Its a deferred income type of retirement plan. Does anyone know if that can be done. I think this one they dont let me withdraw from until I retire. I am not sure but I can check it out on Monday. Pat Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Hi Bonnie, I dont know if I can take out of my retirement money. Its a deferred income type of retirement plan. Does anyone know if that can be done. I think this one they dont let me withdraw from until I retire. I am not sure but I can check it out on Monday. Pat Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Hi , I work for the county and its called County self funded. WLS is not an exclusion under this policy, the doctor who approves or denies them is a jerk. I will forge on and win this battle one way or another, I just dont want to feel any worse than I do now. The longer this takes the harder it seems to be. Pat Iurato Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Hi , I work for the county and its called County self funded. WLS is not an exclusion under this policy, the doctor who approves or denies them is a jerk. I will forge on and win this battle one way or another, I just dont want to feel any worse than I do now. The longer this takes the harder it seems to be. Pat Iurato Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat..How about a your retirement? a 401-k? any possibilities there? Check out that line one equity on your home with the bank you bank with, I know they would love to make you the loan if possible, that's where they make their money. Also the payments could be nothing or very little, you would just have to pay it off in 10 or 15 years whatever terms you set up.. Good luck Bonnie, in N.C. iseeu25232@... wrote: > > Thanks Tarri, I am not sure I have enought equity built up in my house to > take another mortgage out on my house. Even if I do I dont think I can afford > to pay the payment , lol. SO that way it could be a no win situation. > Let me know how you make out > Pat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat..How about a your retirement? a 401-k? any possibilities there? Check out that line one equity on your home with the bank you bank with, I know they would love to make you the loan if possible, that's where they make their money. Also the payments could be nothing or very little, you would just have to pay it off in 10 or 15 years whatever terms you set up.. Good luck Bonnie, in N.C. iseeu25232@... wrote: > > Thanks Tarri, I am not sure I have enought equity built up in my house to > take another mortgage out on my house. Even if I do I dont think I can afford > to pay the payment , lol. SO that way it could be a no win situation. > Let me know how you make out > Pat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat, I am so sorry for your disappointment. I wish I had some wonderful words of encouragement, but I am at a loss. I am new into all of this and fear I am going to be receiving the same call in the next couple of weeks. I guess all I can say is to hang in there and stay strong. Fight them, things always have a way of working out. I will be thinking of you. Good Luck. Cathy > >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: Now what do I do?? So depressed!!!!!!!!!!! >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:50:02 -0000 > >Well gang, my worst nightmare has come true. I just got a call and I >have been denied by my insurance company. I am so depressed as I sit >here in my office tears running down my face. They denied me because >they say that medical necessity was not proven and no eating disorder >was identified. >I am 52 years old, 5'6 338lbs, BMI 54, sleep apnea, GERD,Hiatal >Hernia,High Blood Pressure and Arthritis so bad in both knees and >back that there are days I can hardly walk. They had about 4lbs of >documentation and then have the balls to deny me saying no medical >necessity was proven. I am so angry and upset right now. >There is no way that I can afford this surgery on my own, so I dont >know what to do. At this point I would sell my body, if I thought >anyone would want it, just to have this surgery. >I will appeal but that will take time and I dont want to wait that >long. At the rate they take I may gain another 50lbs and then be >ineligible. I am so damm depressed. >Pat Iurato >Nevada hopeless > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 Pat, I am so sorry for your disappointment. I wish I had some wonderful words of encouragement, but I am at a loss. I am new into all of this and fear I am going to be receiving the same call in the next couple of weeks. I guess all I can say is to hang in there and stay strong. Fight them, things always have a way of working out. I will be thinking of you. Good Luck. Cathy > >Reply-To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >To: MiniGastricBypass (AT) egroups (DOT) com >Subject: Now what do I do?? So depressed!!!!!!!!!!! >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:50:02 -0000 > >Well gang, my worst nightmare has come true. I just got a call and I >have been denied by my insurance company. I am so depressed as I sit >here in my office tears running down my face. They denied me because >they say that medical necessity was not proven and no eating disorder >was identified. >I am 52 years old, 5'6 338lbs, BMI 54, sleep apnea, GERD,Hiatal >Hernia,High Blood Pressure and Arthritis so bad in both knees and >back that there are days I can hardly walk. They had about 4lbs of >documentation and then have the balls to deny me saying no medical >necessity was proven. I am so angry and upset right now. >There is no way that I can afford this surgery on my own, so I dont >know what to do. At this point I would sell my body, if I thought >anyone would want it, just to have this surgery. >I will appeal but that will take time and I dont want to wait that >long. At the rate they take I may gain another 50lbs and then be >ineligible. I am so damm depressed. >Pat Iurato >Nevada hopeless > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 You go Pat. What a great group of folks on this site, it always impresses me so much. So much support and advice and actual help for anyone in need. I can offer only my support, but to you and and Larice and everyone who is fighting right now for their right to be healthy, please don't lose hope! Whenever it gets rough, come to us and we'll carry you through. We are hundreds strong, and can hoist you all up onto our shoulders and let you rest while we keep heading in the right direction. Keep the faith, and eventually your turn to dance will arrive. Love your spirit! PhillyJude MGB 11-3-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 You go Pat. What a great group of folks on this site, it always impresses me so much. So much support and advice and actual help for anyone in need. I can offer only my support, but to you and and Larice and everyone who is fighting right now for their right to be healthy, please don't lose hope! Whenever it gets rough, come to us and we'll carry you through. We are hundreds strong, and can hoist you all up onto our shoulders and let you rest while we keep heading in the right direction. Keep the faith, and eventually your turn to dance will arrive. Love your spirit! PhillyJude MGB 11-3-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Thanks Jude to you and all my MGB family. Thru all of you I find the strength to continue this battle. I am trying all the avenues I can right now to change the decision of my insurance company. By the way I now have the eating disorder they wanted me to have, its called a binge . LOL They said I have to have some problem or I wouldnt be fat, so of course I now have given them this one, since they wont send me to the looney bin for it. I told them that I try to diet and when I dont suceed as fast as I want to I say the hell with it and make up for lost time and binge. They really liked that answer but still didnt approve but I am not gonna give up. Thanks again Pat Iurato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Thanks Jude to you and all my MGB family. Thru all of you I find the strength to continue this battle. I am trying all the avenues I can right now to change the decision of my insurance company. By the way I now have the eating disorder they wanted me to have, its called a binge . LOL They said I have to have some problem or I wouldnt be fat, so of course I now have given them this one, since they wont send me to the looney bin for it. I told them that I try to diet and when I dont suceed as fast as I want to I say the hell with it and make up for lost time and binge. They really liked that answer but still didnt approve but I am not gonna give up. Thanks again Pat Iurato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Thanks Connie, If you find the sight let me know. I am cheering you on for your battle also. I hope that you dont have one but united perhaps we can all do something about the descrimination against us by the insurance industry. Pat Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Thanks Connie, If you find the sight let me know. I am cheering you on for your battle also. I hope that you dont have one but united perhaps we can all do something about the descrimination against us by the insurance industry. Pat Nevada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Philly Jude THANK YOU! For all of us who have been knocked down by others, be it insurance OR nonsupport of family or friends. You and others like you in this group are always here to encourage us to get back up, dust off our cuts and bruises and go on with it. It's so important what you do for us and I for one say " Thank you. " Sonya in Wilmington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Philly Jude THANK YOU! For all of us who have been knocked down by others, be it insurance OR nonsupport of family or friends. You and others like you in this group are always here to encourage us to get back up, dust off our cuts and bruises and go on with it. It's so important what you do for us and I for one say " Thank you. " Sonya in Wilmington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Don't give up Pat, I know I will probably have to do the same thing. I have not heard yet from the Insurance Company and they say no news is good news but not in this case... There is some good advice from people who have succeeded and please take it. I am going to. On one of the site about gastric surgery, there is a link to lawyers that help when someone has been denied... But for some reason I can not find it now... I will continue to look, and maybe someone out there has seen it also... Perserverance does prevail... I am rooting for you. Connie Re: Now what do I do?? So depressed!!!!!!!!!!! > Thanks Jude to you and all my MGB family. Thru all of you I find the strength > to continue this battle. I am trying all the avenues I can right now to > change the decision of my insurance company. > By the way I now have the eating disorder they wanted me to have, its called > a binge . LOL They said I have to have some problem or I wouldnt be fat, so > of course I now have given them this one, since they wont send me to the > looney bin for it. I told them that I try to diet and when I dont suceed as > fast as I want to I say the hell with it and make up for lost time and binge. > They really liked that answer but still didnt approve but I am not gonna give > up. > Thanks again > Pat Iurato > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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