Re: The Die-Off Process...and stuttering

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi folks-

> First, let me say how wonderful this group is! Lots of very helpful

info flying back and

> forth.

>

> My son has been responding well to the diet (using it for his petit

mal seizures). He went

> through a typical " get worse, then get better " cycle. Then he

started getting worse again-

> we figured out it was peanut butter (missed that posting!). So now

that we have cleared it

> out, it is almost like he is going through the beginning die off

stages again, especially with

> D. Is this normal? I have done low doses of charcoal, and am now

trying epsom salt baths,

> but just am looking for some assurance and other experiences. We

are not useing any nut

> butters and are keeping everything pureed, avoiding honey too for now.

>

> Tracey

>

[Guest guest]

sorry for the blank post...Can die-off cause stuttering?

Just wonder if anyone is experiencing this.Before scd we had 2.5 years

of extreme stuttering. He seems to have moderate stuttering spells

after beening very fluent(perfectly fluent) for days sometimes

weeks...just wondering if it is more likely a food he doesn't tolerate

well causing this...or maybe just die-off...

Thanks,

cathy

son-celiac/many food intolerances scd since aug2006

only been eating yogurt since end of march

>

> Hi folks-

> First, let me say how wonderful this group is! Lots of very helpful

info flying back and

> forth.

>

> My son has been responding well to the diet (using it for his petit

mal seizures). He went

> through a typical " get worse, then get better " cycle. Then he

started getting worse again-

> we figured out it was peanut butter (missed that posting!). So now

that we have cleared it

> out, it is almost like he is going through the beginning die off

stages again, especially with

> D. Is this normal? I have done low doses of charcoal, and am now

trying epsom salt baths,

> but just am looking for some assurance and other experiences. We

are not useing any nut

> butters and are keeping everything pureed, avoiding honey too for now.

>

> Tracey

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cathy,

Die off can bring about all kinds of reactions and behaviors. So can

foods that are not well tolerated. How does one decide what is causing

the reaction? Our website answers this question:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/begindiet1.html

How can I tell tell the difference between die-off symptoms and an intolerance

to a new food?

One indicator is the length of time the symptoms persist. Most die-off symptoms

last less than three weeks. Some report that if a negative behavior is due to

die-off, the behavior stops or improves about one to two hours after giving

activated charcoal.

If you think a particular food is possibly bothering your child, you can

certainly remove it for a short while and see if things change. If the symptoms

abate, you may have found the culprit. Re-introducing the food a little later is

a way to verify this.

If your instincts tell you it's die-off... then ramp up epsom salts baths and/or

the charcoal supplements and see if that helps.

During the detoxification period your child's body has to process the waste

products of dying gut pathogens. Children will need plenty of fluids, rest,

patience and support... just as when sick with the flu.

Parents frequently report that they are seeing some positive changes (in

attention, behavior, etc.) at the same time, usually a clear sign that the other

negative symptoms are due to die-off. If the die-off symptoms last longer than a

month or are severe, please seek help from a SCD counselor.

Die-off symptoms and food sensitivities are two separate things... but it can be

difficult to tell one from the other.

Try not to worry; you are making progress. Soon the symptoms of die-off will

lessen or stop, and the picture will be a lot clearer.

You may be able to reintroduce some of the foods that you had pulled when

mistakenly thinking they were not being tolerated .

HTH,

Mimi

>.Can die-off cause stuttering?

> Just wonder if anyone is experiencing this.Before scd we had 2.5 years

> of extreme stuttering. He seems to have moderate stuttering spells

> after beening very fluent(perfectly fluent) for days sometimes

> weeks...just wondering if it is more likely a food he doesn't tolerate

> well causing this...or maybe just die-off...