Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 I got mine from WA*Lucy's http://www.lucyskitchenshop.com/ lucy@... ________________________________________ Loving Care Grammy Gay CD-1994,SCD-1997 Put my address in your address book. Grammy_Bauer@... *My Web Site: http://www.SCDiet.net/ hebegb70@... Support Group *Put in Subject: SCDiet SCD Pals or help. *** Or I may not see your post to me. SCD™ Support Groups: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/support/support.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SCD Store:http://www.scdiet.com/store/index.html Chalmers *LIST OF SCD FOODS: E-mail to scdiet@... SCDiet.com will provide this at no charge. In the subject put CARD REQUEST Give your name and address to get it snail mail. --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Marilyn, Thanks so much for clarifying the dehydrator issue. I appreciate it and will look into the Excaliber brand. Also, I appreciate your patience with me over the raw/cooked food issue. I can see your point. Makes alot of sense when explained in this manner. One more question in regards to the same. What about fermented vs. cooked foods? Is it possible to substitute fermented foods in place of cooked or no? Thanks again for all your help. We're slowly working through this and hopefully will have the book in our hands soon. Mike > > >> On another note, has anyone used a Nesco > dehydrator for making yogurt. I'm looking at > purchasing one because it's going to be tough to > keep a constant 105 degree temp for 24 hours > using the methods I've used previously for making > 8 hour yogurt. I've never used a dehydrator > before. Does anyone know if this unit will allow > me to take out the trays and use mason jars to > make yogurt? If so, what size jars and how many will fit? << > > No, it won't. It has the heat / fan unit on the > bottom, and you stack trays on it and put a lid > on it. You need an Excalibur 9 tray dehydrator > with the heat / fan in the back, and which has > trays which can be removed from the " box " . You > can read more about them at http://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/ > > I've used a Nesco -- you have to keep trying to > change the positions of the trays to make sure > the stuff dries evenly, and even then, I always > ended up with some stuff gummy and some stuff > over-dried. AND, you can't make yogurt with it! I was glad to give it away. > > >> Maybe the book will better describe WHY > cooked foods would be easier to digest than raw, > since, as I've previously understood it, enzymes > are a large part of that digestion process. If > that is actually the case, how could killing > those enzymes make a food easier to digest? Like > I said, maybe the book lays this out more clearly than I've so far read. << > > The enzymes in raw food work with a HUMAN > digestive system. One that works with enzymes to > break down the food and let it be absorbed by the > villi. Unfortunately, those of us who need SCD > have a RUMEN digestive system, where the bacteria > break down the food we can't (and produce acids > and by-products which continue to damage our guts). > > The goal of SCD is to starve those beggars out, > let our guts heal, and THEN we can develop a > digestive system that works the way it ought to. > At that point, you can have all the raw legal foods your guts can tolerate. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Thanks, I'll check it out. Mike Kaufman > > I got mine from > WA*Lucy's http://www.lucyskitchenshop.com/ lucy@... > > > ________________________________________ > Loving Care Grammy Gay CD-1994,SCD-1997 > Put my address in your address book. > Grammy_Bauer@... > *My Web Site: http://www.SCDiet.net/ > hebegb70@... Support Group > *Put in Subject: SCDiet SCD Pals or help. > *** Or I may not see your post to me. > SCD™ Support Groups: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/support/support.htm > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SCD Store:http://www.scdiet.com/store/index.html Chalmers > *LIST OF SCD FOODS: E-mail to scdiet@... > SCDiet.com will provide this at no charge. > In the subject put CARD REQUEST > Give your name and address to get it snail mail. > > --------------------------------- > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Mike, >> Thanks so much for clarifying the dehydrator issue. I appreciate it and will look into the Excaliber brand. << The Excalibur is not cheap -- but it's top mark quality, and incredibly useful for all sorts of things, like making home-dried fruits and meat sticks, and your own safe onion and garlic powder, not to mention buckets of yogurt. Mine is so useful that I bought a second one, which sits next to the first one, and I will often have both of them running. (Hey, if I put a couple trays of pepperoni sticks, a tray or two of onions and garlic, a tray of green peppers, and a tray of sliced mushrooms, the whole house smells like a pizza!) I seriously hesitated when I got mine, because at the time, I'd just been out of work for three months, due to gallbladder issues which were the tip of the iceberg for my other gut issues. But it really did open up a world of possibilities. >> Also, I appreciate your patience with me over the raw/cooked food issue. I can see your point. Makes a lot of sense when explained in this manner. << I know all this fanatical adherence to The Way Elaine Said sounds crazy at first. Thing is, she saw her own daughter cured of convulsions and colitis so bad the surgeons wanted to remove the intestine of an eight year old! Then, since Dr. Haas had died, and she couldn't ask him questions (wow, I know THAT feeling, with Elaine gone!) she went back to school, got degrees in what amounted to gut biology, and figured out the WHY of the diet for herself. I'm fanatical for the simple reason that, being stubborn, I've pushed the envelope on just about every aspect of SCD at some point or other, and have always come back to What Elaine Says, because, much to the annoyance of this would-be Myth-Buster, she's right, and SCD works. But only if you follow the directions. Like you, I had a lot of questions about WHY. >> One more question in regards to the same. What about fermented vs. cooked foods? Is it possible to substitute fermented foods in place of cooked or no? << Fermented foods are absolutely top mark. In fact, properly fermented foods (or the juice from them) can be an invaluable aid to getting good probiotics in if there's a demonstrated sensitivity to the yogurt. If you've read the Pecan Bread site comments of introducing the yogurt, though, you'll notice that they recommend starting slow and introducing it gradually. This isn't just because many of the ASD kids may have a casein issue. It's because those good bacteria kick the blazes out of the bad ones, and you are likely to see a massive die-off. Symptoms of die-off can seem like a horribly regression, and they ARE horrible for both the person going through it and everyone around him / her. (My husband gets high marks for surviving my three month flare, which hit, smack in the middle of Mardi Gras, when everyone and their grandmother is serving sugar-laden King Cakes and... guess what I was craving? SUGAR!) Since the introduction of the probiotics can trigger even more die-off than SCD to start with, I would recommend against trying to use fermented foods in lieu of regular cooked foods. I know you're trying to keep the optimum in nutrition available for your son, and that will ultimately pay off. But take it small steps at a time. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Thanks again, Marilyn. You really have been an immense help. I appreciate you answering my fermented food vs. cooked food issue. As you can tell, I'm still having a great deal of trouble with the idea of cooking my veggies till they're mush. But, if that's what has to happen to help my son, that's what I'll do. We've all been pretty constipated at the beginning of this - been on SCD for about 4 days. I haven't had a bowel movement yet, nor have two of my sons (including CAEDEN, the ASD child). I ran across the link to the constipation protocol and was reading over that. She refers to " the muffins " , which I'm guessing must be referenced in the book that we're still waiting from the library. What muffins are these exactly? I'm assuming they must be made with some sort of nut flour, but I thought we were supposed to wait till we hit the Advanced stage to add nut flours. Any insight? Thanks. Mike Kaufman - Father of: 4.5 yr old Caeden (ASD since age 1) (SCD since 8-11-07) > > > Mike, > > >> Thanks so much for clarifying the dehydrator > issue. I appreciate it and will look into the Excaliber brand. << > > The Excalibur is not cheap -- but it's top mark > quality, and incredibly useful for all sorts of > things, like making home-dried fruits and meat > sticks, and your own safe onion and garlic > powder, not to mention buckets of yogurt. Mine is > so useful that I bought a second one, which sits > next to the first one, and I will often have both > of them running. (Hey, if I put a couple trays of > pepperoni sticks, a tray or two of onions and > garlic, a tray of green peppers, and a tray of > sliced mushrooms, the whole house smells like a pizza!) > > I seriously hesitated when I got mine, because at > the time, I'd just been out of work for three > months, due to gallbladder issues which were the > tip of the iceberg for my other gut issues. But > it really did open up a world of possibilities. > > >> Also, I appreciate your patience with me > over the raw/cooked food issue. I can see your > point. Makes a lot of sense when explained in this manner. << > > I know all this fanatical adherence to The Way > Elaine Said sounds crazy at first. Thing is, she > saw her own daughter cured of convulsions and > colitis so bad the surgeons wanted to remove the > intestine of an eight year old! Then, since Dr. > Haas had died, and she couldn't ask him questions > (wow, I know THAT feeling, with Elaine gone!) she > went back to school, got degrees in what amounted > to gut biology, and figured out the WHY of the diet for herself. > > I'm fanatical for the simple reason that, being > stubborn, I've pushed the envelope on just about > every aspect of SCD at some point or other, and > have always come back to What Elaine Says, > because, much to the annoyance of this would-be > Myth-Buster, she's right, and SCD works. But only > if you follow the directions. Like you, I had a lot of questions about WHY. > > >> One more question in regards to the same. > What about fermented vs. cooked foods? Is it > possible to substitute fermented foods in place of cooked or no? << > > Fermented foods are absolutely top mark. In fact, > properly fermented foods (or the juice from them) > can be an invaluable aid to getting good > probiotics in if there's a demonstrated sensitivity to the yogurt. > > If you've read the Pecan Bread site comments of > introducing the yogurt, though, you'll notice > that they recommend starting slow and introducing > it gradually. This isn't just because many of the > ASD kids may have a casein issue. It's because > those good bacteria kick the blazes out of the > bad ones, and you are likely to see a massive > die-off. Symptoms of die-off can seem like a > horribly regression, and they ARE horrible for > both the person going through it and everyone > around him / her. (My husband gets high marks for > surviving my three month flare, which hit, smack > in the middle of Mardi Gras, when everyone and > their grandmother is serving sugar-laden King > Cakes and... guess what I was craving? SUGAR!) > > Since the introduction of the probiotics can > trigger even more die-off than SCD to start with, > I would recommend against trying to use fermented > foods in lieu of regular cooked foods. > > I know you're trying to keep the optimum in > nutrition available for your son, and that will > ultimately pay off. But take it small steps at a time. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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