Legal Sugar Alternative to Honey?

[Guest guest]

I am looking for a sugar substitute to use when making almond milk

yogurt. It says to use honey. I think the little bugs need it to grow

on since there is no sugar in almond milk as opposed to regular milk.

If this is so using a sugar substitute like saccharine won't feed them

properly. This is why I was thinking to us the Agave Nectar (not LEGAL

though). Any insight you may lend me in my dilemma would be helpful. I

am also allergic to dairy which is why I will make almond milk yogurt

as opposed to regular milk yogurt. As well as honey and dairy I am also

allergic to, gluten, soy, egg, chocolate and a lot of supplements.

[Guest guest]

I really don't know but I've wondered about stevia?

>

> I am looking for a sugar substitute to use when making almond milk

> yogurt. It says to use honey. I think the little bugs need it to

grow

> on since there is no sugar in almond milk as opposed to regular

milk.

> If this is so using a sugar substitute like saccharine won't feed

them

> properly. This is why I was thinking to us the Agave Nectar (not

LEGAL

> though). Any insight you may lend me in my dilemma would be

helpful. I

> am also allergic to dairy which is why I will make almond milk

yogurt

> as opposed to regular milk yogurt. As well as honey and dairy I am

also

> allergic to, gluten, soy, egg, chocolate and a lot of supplements.

>

[Guest guest]

What about trying the nectar/juice/syrup from cooked fruit? Whenever I

cook fruit, I end up with a sweet and delicious syrup which I save for

chicken pancakes. We're trying to rotate as much as possible, and we

take days off from the tiny amounts of honey we are eating. Plums make a

really good one! You could also try boiling down a legal juice until

it's thick like a syrup. I have not experience with the yogurt yet, so I

don't know if it would work. Good luck!

Holly

Quinn, 4 years old, ASD, SCD for 3 weeks.

[Guest guest]

At 06:24 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:

>I really don't know but I've wondered about stevia?

stevia

caution

(E/list) Stevia is an herb native to South

America, and is now grown and cultivated

throughout the world. Stevia belongs to a family

called Terpenoids. According to The Organic

Constitutents of Higher Plants by Trevor

, 2nd edition, page 158, “This class of

glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological

effects on mammals and microorganisms.” Elaine

has noted on the adult listserv that, “Its

molecular structure resembles a steroid. It is

not SCD legal.” However, on the SCD-Autism list,

she indicated that it might be used in strictly

limited quantities for those children who

absolutely cannot tolerate either honey or saccharin.

Powdered stevia should be approached

with extreme caution. At least one manufacturer

of organic stevia includes “erythritol” which

they claim is a “natural free flowing agent”.

Erythritol is what is called a sugar alcohol.

Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol,

xylitol, and sorbitol which are used in a lot of

commercial “sugar-free” stuff. They're allowed to

get away with that because normally, our guts

can't digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad

bugs in our guts can, and will have a field day on them.

If you elect to use stevia as a

sweetener, read all ingredient lists very

carefully, and research all ingredients. “All

natural” or “organic” does not mean “SCD Legal.”

If you are using stevia, and do not appear to be

gaining any ground on SCD, it would be strongly

recommended to eliminate the stevia for several weeks and keep a food log.

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Thanks Holly, this sounds like a great idea, I am going to look into it. I

will let you know if it works.

Plums are in season now so that is lucky too.

In a message dated 9/3/2007 5:23:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

holly@... writes:

What about trying the nectar/juice/What about trying the nectar/juice/<WBR

cook fruit, I end up with a sweet and delicious syrup which I save for

chicken pancakes. We're trying to rotate as much as possible, and we

take days off from the tiny amounts of honey we are eating. Plums make a

really good one! You could also try boiling down a legal juice until

it's thick like a syrup. I have not experience with the yogurt yet, so I

don't know if it would work. Good luck!

Holly

Quinn, 4 years old, ASD, SCD for 3 weeks.

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[Guest guest]

Well I need something that the bugs can eat when the fermenting process

takes place, so I don't think this will work. Stevia won't provide this to the

bugs. Also Stevia is Illegal on the diet because Elaine says it resembles a

steroid and therefor she is not to sure if it is a healthy alternative to

sugar. I use it a lot though to sweeten things, I have read a lot about it and

it

seems safe to me. I make a wonderful Lemon Soda using freshly squeezed

organic lemons, including the pulp, mineral water and stevia. Very refreshing.

Someone suggested that I make a fruit juice concentrate by cooking down a

fruit like plums till they make a thick syrup. I think I will try this. I will

post and let everyone know if it works out.

In a message dated 9/2/2007 7:24:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

LouisianaSCDLagniappe@... writes:

At 06:24 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:

>I really don't know but I've wondered about stevia?

stevia

caution

(E/list) Stevia is an herb native to South

America, and is now grown and cultivated

throughout the world. Stevia belongs to a family

called Terpenoids. According to The Organic

Constitutents of Higher Plants by Trevor

, 2nd edition, page 158, “This class of

glycosides (terpenoids) often have physiological

effects on mammals and microorganisms.†Elaine

has noted on the adult listserv that, “Its

molecular structure resembles a steroid. It is

not SCD legal.†However, on the SCD-Autism list,

she indicated that it might be used in strictly

limited quantities for those children who

absolutely cannot tolerate either honey or saccharin.

Powdered stevia should be approached

with extreme caution. At least one manufacturer

of organic stevia includes “erythritol†which

they claim is a “natural free flowing agentâ€.

Erythritol is what is called a sugar alcohol.

Sugar alcohols include things like mannitol,

xylitol, and sorbitol which are used in a lot of

commercial “sugar-free†stuff. They're allowed to

get away with that because normally, our guts

can't digest those sugar alcohols. But the bad

bugs in our guts can, and will have a field day on them.

If you elect to use stevia as a

sweetener, read all ingredient lists very

carefully, and research all ingredients. “All

natural†or “organic†does not mean “SCD Legal.â€

If you are using stevia, and do not appear to be

gaining any ground on SCD, it would be strongly

recommended to eliminate the stevia for several weeks and keep a food log.

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

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[Guest guest]

Hi Doreen,

<<I am looking for a sugar substitute to use when making almond milk

> yogurt. It says to use honey. I think the little bugs need it to

grow on since there is no sugar in almond milk as opposed to regular

milk.>>

If you make nut yogurt without honey there will be some fermentation it

just won't be as much as when you use honey in it. Custom probiotics

had almond milk yogurt tested: " .. The resulting yogurt indicated 350

million probiotic bacteria per gram for the one without honey and 890

million per gram for the one with honey. The bacterial count was

performed by an independent laboratory.

http://www.customprobiotics.com/yogurt_starter.htm

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and