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We have been doing strict, by the book SCD since the end of June when

we redid the intro diet. I'd like to update everyone on our progress.

My son's behavior has improved 110%. Instead of the glimmers of that

sweet calm boy that used to come and go so fast, we now see that sweet

and calm boy on a regular basis. He still has occasional bad days or

moments, but nothing like before. I can't express the change that this

has brought to our family life. It is like a miracle. He is more

mature, more engaged with the world around him, and well, he just acts

more grown up and smarter! We now have a bright inquisitive son that

acts like a 5 year old instead of a really big wild two year old.

He has had numerous normal stools now, most recently 3 in a row and

still counting! :-) This is amazing to me for a kid that used to have

such constantly runny stools that they would ruin his entire outfit,

shirt, pants, socks and all. I shared a little while back that he had

the first normal stool of his life one day before his 5th birthday. We

continue to cherish that milestone. Oh yeah, and he just recently

finally potty-trained! He still has accidents with stools, but pee

goes in the potty all the time now!!!!

Both of my children's salicylate tolerance is improving. We can have

tomato soup now!!!!! Yummmy! Before even a drop of tomato product

would make my daughter super emotional and irrational and would send

my son flying off the walls. Now it has no effect except for happy

full tummies! Soon we will get brave and try other previously

forbidden salicylates. :-)

The only issue we suddenly have is this weird thing that is happening

to all of our teeth. Mine, my son's, and my daughter's. They almost

look mottled with light brown stuff. Mine almost look transparent in

places now. It is totally weird. Our under eye circles continue to

look worse at times than they did before the intro diet, but that is

getting better. I think maybe we are having yeast flare-ups.

We recently took a week long vacation to Maine that involved 2 days of

driving there, 2 days driving back, and lots of driving while there,

and we managed to stay strict SCD. I did a lot of precooking and

freezing before the trip, LOL!

Oh yeah, for anyone interested, here is the list of what we are

currently eating: broiled or baked meats and seafood, eggs,

occasionally goat cheese, SCD yogurt made from cow's milk, cultured

butter, olive oil, cod liver oil with butter oil, homemade mayo with

sunflower oil, coconut oil, ripe banana, pureed cooked carrots, pureed

cooked butternut squash, gelatin, pomegranate juice, and tomato juice

(made into marinara sauce, tomato paste, or tomato soup).

Well, I just wanted to update and hopefully share some glimmer of

success with any newbies out there. I at one point thought that my

son's intestinal problems just couldn't be solved by SCD, I am glad

that I hung in there and kept trying. I hope that our progress

continues and that we will be able to add some new foods soon. :-)

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

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Thanks soooo much for sharing, Chris! I'm really needing the

encouragement these days. I still think I'm moving too fast with

trying to introduce foods. We keep having to backtrack and regroup.

I appreciate you taking the time to write that all out... it gives me

hope that we may someday eat salicylates again. :)

- Bronwyn

SCD since late July 2007

DS 6, also Feingold Stage 1, casein-free, soy-free

DS 3, our target, also casein-free, soy-free

* also currently egg-free

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I have a few more specific questions about your situation with the salicylates.

I think we emailed each other off list a few months back but can't remember for

sure. Could I email you off list or you email me? Oh, and thanks for the

progress report. It is encouraging.

Bonita

Update on our Progress

We have been doing strict, by the book SCD since the end of June when

we redid the intro diet. I'd like to update everyone on our progress.

My son's behavior has improved 110%. Instead of the glimmers of that

sweet calm boy that used to come and go so fast, we now see that sweet

and calm boy on a regular basis. He still has occasional bad days or

moments, but nothing like before. I can't express the change that this

has brought to our family life. It is like a miracle. He is more

mature, more engaged with the world around him, and well, he just acts

more grown up and smarter! We now have a bright inquisitive son that

acts like a 5 year old instead of a really big wild two year old.

He has had numerous normal stools now, most recently 3 in a row and

still counting! :-) This is amazing to me for a kid that used to have

such constantly runny stools that they would ruin his entire outfit,

shirt, pants, socks and all. I shared a little while back that he had

the first normal stool of his life one day before his 5th birthday. We

continue to cherish that milestone. Oh yeah, and he just recently

finally potty-trained! He still has accidents with stools, but pee

goes in the potty all the time now!!!!

Both of my children's salicylate tolerance is improving. We can have

tomato soup now!!!!! Yummmy! Before even a drop of tomato product

would make my daughter super emotional and irrational and would send

my son flying off the walls. Now it has no effect except for happy

full tummies! Soon we will get brave and try other previously

forbidden salicylates. :-)

The only issue we suddenly have is this weird thing that is happening

to all of our teeth. Mine, my son's, and my daughter's. They almost

look mottled with light brown stuff. Mine almost look transparent in

places now. It is totally weird. Our under eye circles continue to

look worse at times than they did before the intro diet, but that is

getting better. I think maybe we are having yeast flare-ups.

We recently took a week long vacation to Maine that involved 2 days of

driving there, 2 days driving back, and lots of driving while there,

and we managed to stay strict SCD. I did a lot of precooking and

freezing before the trip, LOL!

Oh yeah, for anyone interested, here is the list of what we are

currently eating: broiled or baked meats and seafood, eggs,

occasionally goat cheese, SCD yogurt made from cow's milk, cultured

butter, olive oil, cod liver oil with butter oil, homemade mayo with

sunflower oil, coconut oil, ripe banana, pureed cooked carrots, pureed

cooked butternut squash, gelatin, pomegranate juice, and tomato juice

(made into marinara sauce, tomato paste, or tomato soup).

Well, I just wanted to update and hopefully share some glimmer of

success with any newbies out there. I at one point thought that my

son's intestinal problems just couldn't be solved by SCD, I am glad

that I hung in there and kept trying. I hope that our progress

continues and that we will be able to add some new foods soon. :-)

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

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I'm glad to hear your family is doing so well! My youngest has been

on the diet since 01/05/07 and we are finding it harder and harder to

only keep her on it. My husband and I eat healthy most of the time.

But we do love our splurges. We also have a 5 year old who is

healthy as can be and may still need to convert the whole family SCD,

just so the 2 year old isn't left out. That won't be easy.

I swear by this diet and think it's the best thing any parent can do

for a child.

On another note, your name seems familiar to me. Did you used to

live in Cuyahoga Falls?

Just wondering.

Cheryl

Mother of Dorthia-28 months-Failure to Thrive (Placentia Previa

baby), Alysson-5.5 years.

>

> We have been doing strict, by the book SCD since the end of June

when

> we redid the intro diet. I'd like to update everyone on our

progress.

>

> My son's behavior has improved 110%. Instead of the glimmers of that

> sweet calm boy that used to come and go so fast, we now see that

sweet

> and calm boy on a regular basis. He still has occasional bad days or

> moments, but nothing like before. I can't express the change that

this

> has brought to our family life. It is like a miracle. He is more

> mature, more engaged with the world around him, and well, he just

acts

> more grown up and smarter! We now have a bright inquisitive son that

> acts like a 5 year old instead of a really big wild two year old.

>

> He has had numerous normal stools now, most recently 3 in a row and

> still counting! :-) This is amazing to me for a kid that used to

have

> such constantly runny stools that they would ruin his entire outfit,

> shirt, pants, socks and all. I shared a little while back that he

had

> the first normal stool of his life one day before his 5th birthday.

We

> continue to cherish that milestone. Oh yeah, and he just recently

> finally potty-trained! He still has accidents with stools, but pee

> goes in the potty all the time now!!!!

>

> Both of my children's salicylate tolerance is improving. We can have

> tomato soup now!!!!! Yummmy! Before even a drop of tomato product

> would make my daughter super emotional and irrational and would send

> my son flying off the walls. Now it has no effect except for happy

> full tummies! Soon we will get brave and try other previously

> forbidden salicylates. :-)

>

> The only issue we suddenly have is this weird thing that is

happening

> to all of our teeth. Mine, my son's, and my daughter's. They almost

> look mottled with light brown stuff. Mine almost look transparent in

> places now. It is totally weird. Our under eye circles continue to

> look worse at times than they did before the intro diet, but that is

> getting better. I think maybe we are having yeast flare-ups.

>

> We recently took a week long vacation to Maine that involved 2 days

of

> driving there, 2 days driving back, and lots of driving while there,

> and we managed to stay strict SCD. I did a lot of precooking and

> freezing before the trip, LOL!

>

> Oh yeah, for anyone interested, here is the list of what we are

> currently eating: broiled or baked meats and seafood, eggs,

> occasionally goat cheese, SCD yogurt made from cow's milk, cultured

> butter, olive oil, cod liver oil with butter oil, homemade mayo with

> sunflower oil, coconut oil, ripe banana, pureed cooked carrots,

pureed

> cooked butternut squash, gelatin, pomegranate juice, and tomato

juice

> (made into marinara sauce, tomato paste, or tomato soup).

>

> Well, I just wanted to update and hopefully share some glimmer of

> success with any newbies out there. I at one point thought that my

> son's intestinal problems just couldn't be solved by SCD, I am glad

> that I hung in there and kept trying. I hope that our progress

> continues and that we will be able to add some new foods soon. :-)

>

> K in Dayton, Ohio

> Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

> adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

> Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

> yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

> old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

> Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006,

back

> on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

> 2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

> pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

> MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

> FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

>

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<<My son's behavior has improved 110%. Instead of the glimmers of that

> sweet calm boy that used to come and go so fast, we now see that

sweet> and calm boy on a regular basis.....Oh yeah, and he just

recently> finally potty-trained! He still has accidents with stools,

but pee> goes in the potty all the time now!!!!>>

Congrats on the potty training and the fantastic improvements. It

has been a long road for you!

<<Both of my children's salicylate tolerance is improving. We can have

> tomato soup now!!!!! Yummmy! Before even a drop of tomato product

> would make my daughter super emotional and irrational and would send

> my son flying off the walls. Now it has no effect except for happy

> full tummies! Soon we will get brave and try other previously

> forbidden salicylates. :-)>>

Kudos again :)

Does your daughter eat the same foods as listed below. Was pureeing

the foods that made the change for her?

<<The only issue we suddenly have is this weird thing that is

happening> to all of our teeth. Mine, my son's, and my daughter's.

They almost> look mottled with light brown stuff. Mine almost look

transparent in> places now. It is totally weird. Our under eye

circles continue to

> look worse at times than they did before the intro diet, but that is

> getting better. I think maybe we are having yeast flare-ups. >>

I agree the under eye circles could be yeast flare ups. When did you

start the yogurt? Do you use it daily?

Reports of discoloured teeth have been linked to low iron for some.

See http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/54209

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/68315

I had low iron last year and got the levels back up eating iron rich

foods with a source of vitamin C. I started drinking orange juice

and pineapple juice (in the mornings) when I had either liver or

spinach.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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You are welcome! I know the only thing that kept me going was progress

reports from others, so now that I have some good progress to report I

felt obligated to share. :-)

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

>

> Thanks soooo much for sharing, Chris! I'm really needing the

> encouragement these days. I still think I'm moving too fast with

> trying to introduce foods. We keep having to backtrack and regroup.

>

> I appreciate you taking the time to write that all out... it gives me

> hope that we may someday eat salicylates again. :)

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Hi Cheryl. I have found that it is easiest to have the entire family

on the same diet, unfortunately my hubby and roommate are addicted to

carbs and sugar, so I by easy processed side dishes, like rice etc,

for them to get that fill. :-(

No we have never lived in Cuyahoga Falls. But we've heard of

Kuykendalls all over the country, Virginia, Texas, etc etc. No matter

where we are (we were in the military for a while) we would run into

someone who knew a Kuykendall. It is a rare name, but as my hubby

says, " we bread like rabbits or something " LOL!

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

>

>

>

> I'm glad to hear your family is doing so well! My youngest has been

> on the diet since 01/05/07 and we are finding it harder and harder to

> only keep her on it. My husband and I eat healthy most of the time.

> But we do love our splurges. We also have a 5 year old who is

> healthy as can be and may still need to convert the whole family SCD,

> just so the 2 year old isn't left out. That won't be easy.

>

> I swear by this diet and think it's the best thing any parent can do

> for a child.

>

> On another note, your name seems familiar to me. Did you used to

> live in Cuyahoga Falls?

>

> Just wondering.

>

> Cheryl

> Mother of Dorthia-28 months-Failure to Thrive (Placentia Previa

> baby), Alysson-5.5 years.

>

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> Congrats on the potty training and the fantastic improvements. It

> has been a long road for you!

Yes, it truly has been a long road for us. Thanks so much for the

words of encouragement!

> Kudos again :)

> Does your daughter eat the same foods as listed below. Was pureeing

> the foods that made the change for her?

Yes, my daughter and I eat the exact same thing only because there is

no way I could get the kids to eat different things. My son would

probably find that very unfair. I'm not sure if pureeing helped her

salicylate tolerance or whether it was just a matter of time on simple

SCD foods and the addition of yogurt that eventually started to

correct the chemistry. I know for my son that pureeing was critical to

our success in firming up his stools, but whether or not it also

helped the salicylate tolerance, I really don't know. My daughter's

stools become normal once we started SCD. (before that she

occasionally had long skinny soft stools or was constipated at times).

, so pureeing didn't change her stools much. As for me, I can feel

that my healing has been spurred on by our simple diet of pureed

carbs. I have more energy, my stools smell more normal, are more

regular, and well, just more normal overall.

> Reports of discoloured teeth have been linked to low iron for some.

> See http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/54209

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/68315

>

> I had low iron last year and got the levels back up eating iron rich

> foods with a source of vitamin C. I started drinking orange juice

> and pineapple juice (in the mornings) when I had either liver or

> spinach.

Thanks for that info Sheila. We eat a lot of meat and so I thought we

were getting enough iron, but our vitamin C intake is pretty low. Do

you think it is possible that we aren't absorbing enough iron due to

how low our vitamin C intake is? Perhaps I need to experiment with

some legal juices that have vitamin C, or squeeze our own. Before we

avoided orange juice like the plague because of salicylate issues, but

now maybe it is time to try again.

Thanks so much Sheila! Your advice is always appreciated!

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

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Yep, -- I know some Kuykendalls in Austin -- good people, some

a bit crazy, bit I kinda like that! ;-)

Dede

self-diagnosed this summer

>

> No we have never lived in Cuyahoga Falls. But we've heard of

> Kuykendalls all over the country, Virginia, Texas, etc etc. No

matter

> where we are (we were in the military for a while) we would run into

> someone who knew a Kuykendall. It is a rare name, but as my hubby

> says, " we bread like rabbits or something " LOL!

>

> K in Dayton, Ohio

> Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

> adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

> Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

> yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

> old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

> Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006,

back

> on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

> 2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

> pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

> MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

> FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

>

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Whoops, forgot to answer this part. We started the yogurt right after

the intro diet, back in early July. We are up to about 3-6 small

teaspoons a day, but sometimes go a day or two or more without when I

don't have the next batch ready yet.

K in Dayton, Ohio

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Fibro, CFS, yeast/candida, copper overload,

adrenal fatigue (mostly healed!!!)

Kids: son Rhowan 5 yrs old, chronic diarrhea/loose stools,

yeast/candida, ADHD, salicylate intolerance; daughter Willow 6.5 yrs

old, mild GI issues, salicylate intolerance

Started SCD June 2006, went slightly off for awhile in Nov 2006, back

on strict SCD starting May 2007. (Redid intro the last week of June

2007 and recently discovered that most carbs have to be thoroughly

pureed in order for my son to tolerate them). Sept 07 UPDATE: Seeing

MAJOR improvement in behavior and salicylate tolerance, son has

FINALLY potty-trained, and he is having frequent " trophies. "

>

> I agree the under eye circles could be yeast flare ups. When did you

> start the yogurt? Do you use it daily?

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

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<<Thanks for that info Sheila. We eat a lot of meat and so I thought we

were getting enough iron, but our vitamin C intake is pretty low. Do

you think it is possible that we aren't absorbing enough iron due to

how low our vitamin C intake is?>>

It's possible , that is what happened to me.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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