Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Our post titles sound like we are talking about the Mississippi River! I think that this could be a good chapter title for our book. In fact, it even could be the title of the book! LOL. " Muddy pancreas juice " Boy what a story you just told us. I cannot believe what you have gone through and I can understand completely about your autoimmune issues as that is closer to my professional area of knowledge than pancreatitis (pancreatitis is my private life area of knowledge, unfortunately). Auto-immunity, while frustrating to the patient, is a very fascinating area of medicine. It is very close to the issues surrounding CP (the uncertainties, the gamut of opinions, the waiting things out, etc) the only thing that autoimmunity has that is light years ahead of CP is the laboratory testing. At least there are many different tests available that can point the doctor in the right direction. Unfortunately, this is not so for CP. Thanks for giving me encouragement - even when I may add more to the confusion level. Clarification of murky issues may be an exercise in futility but I believe that it is a valuable one as long as we all realize that there is no one right answer and that every opinion, as well as personal experience, is valid. And accurate - at least to that individual. What I do take issue with though, is when a doctor will present his position as the only true one.......and leaves no room to discuss the controversies. You nailed it completely when you said that navigating the health care process causes you to give up your illusions: there is no all-knowledgeable doctor who orders the correct, available tests which allows him to accurately diagnose and humanely treat all illnesses (or even most illnesses). The one thing I have learned is that our system is miraculous when it comes to acute problems - whether they be trauma, surgical emergencies, heart attacks, etc. But when it comes to long-term diagnosis and care of chronic disorders we suck. And I do not think it is altogether a problem of Western medicine vs non-traditional (although there is certainly some validity in that thought). I think that it is a reflection of our society: the " worshipping " of science to the exclusion of humaneness, the need glory and recognition, the attractiveness of " glamourous " areas of specialization, the desire for immediate gratification (trauma, etc care gives instant feedback to the caregiver while treating chronic diseases may not) and of course, the lure of money. It is rare to find doctors who are willing to think outside the box - or flowcharts to be more exact. So when a patient does not fit the textbook view of the disease (let alone, the problem of the disease not having a textbook view at all!) then they are left to hang. Again, in the world of bell shaped curves, you are considered a success if you are able to address those that fit into the 90% area under the curve. The other 10% that lies on the two tails....oh well! And I think that for most of us here, we are that 10% " tails " - the ones that don't fit into any " average " or " normal " picture of pancreatitis. And to add to the problem, there may not BE any " normal " or " average " pancreatitis patient either! That may just be a conveniently label for the sake of educating students and residents. Maybe the most valuable chapter of the book would be for us all to brainstorm to elucidate what would be the ideal medical experience as well as the ideal physician or medical team to address all the needs of a CP patient....from the first awareness that something is wrong to the management of the chronic and dibilitating symptoms. Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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