SCD - DAY 5 - LOT GASSES and SMELLY !!!

September 10, 2007

Hi everybody,

We are on day 5 of our SCD trial.

Im sorry that I could not say that we see some " mirracles " as many of you

notice after the 1st day od SCD.

I dont know why this happend to athers and no to us.

I can say that his beahaviour is worst, moo non stop, nothing to interest,

only in 2m2 and something to sin in his hands, he didnt do this before...

On day 4 yeasterday he make the 1st poo after the 4 days of constipation, but

this was provoked from Epsom salth bath, my son like to drink water, and he

swallow a bit, I let him, and after few hours, he make a poo, like diarhea...

I want to ask you all for advice, no one else I have here:

-My son have many gasses and very very smell !!

Can anyone tell me is this normal is this die-of etc, it is very smell and non

stop gasses??

He is not officialy on intro but is the same, he dont want to eat anything.

How days goes he DONT LIKE TO EAT, anything, he dont like pankakes (banana,

checken), he stop the eggs (he likes them lot), he dont want to eat meat, meat

balls, he dont like to taste the SCD nut bread.

These 4 days he eats:

Breakfast-egss 2; Lunch-Chicken broth, Meat balls broth, Dinner-very difficult

to eat, sometimes eggs again or broth..

From yeasterday he stop the egss, last night he dont like to eat anything. I

prepare him eggs-no, broth-no, SCD bread-NO, at least I gove him 1 1/2 bannana,

and this was the dinner.

This morning he dont lie to eat anything again, I give him 2 eggs for 2

hours,little by little.

I think that my son loose his apetite..

Is this normal in begining??

I read, read that many kids makes a wonderful changes from SCD, from day 1

some, we, are far away from it!!!!!!! Behaviour is worst....

Sorry for long letter.

Need some advicess please...

Goran

Father of 4 yo son autistic

SCD day 5

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September 10, 2007

Hi Goran,

<<We are on day 5 of our SCD trial.

Im sorry that I could not say that we see some " mirracles " as many of

you notice after the 1st day od SCD.

I dont know why this happend to athers and no to us.

I can say that his beahaviour is worst, moo non stop, nothing to

interest, only in 2m2 and something to sin in his hands, he didnt do

this before...

On day 4 yeasterday he make the 1st poo after the 4 days of

constipation, but this was provoked from Epsom salth bath, my son

like to drink water, and he swallow a bit, I let him, and after few

hours, he make a poo, like diarhea...

I want to ask you all for advice, no one else I have here:

-My son have many gasses and very very smell !!>>

The diarrhea and smelly gas are common at the beginning when the bad

microbes are dying. This is what we call die off.

<<Can anyone tell me is this normal is this die-of etc, it is very

smell and non stop gasses??>>

Yes, it is all very common, many parents go through the same things.

<<He is not officialy on intro but is the same, he dont want to eat

anything.

How days goes he DONT LIKE TO EAT, anything, he dont like pankakes

(banana, checken), he stop the eggs (he likes them lot), he dont want

to eat meat, meat balls, he dont like to taste the SCD nut bread.

These 4 days he eats:

Breakfast-egss 2; Lunch-Chicken broth, Meat balls broth, Dinner-very

difficult to eat, sometimes eggs again or broth..

From yeasterday he stop the egss, last night he dont like to eat

anything. I prepare him eggs-no, broth-no, SCD bread-NO, at least I

gove him 1 1/2 bannana, and this was the dinner.>>

You don't need to keep him on the intro diet any longer, so the

banana is good. Continue to give him fairly easy to digest foods.

In other words peeled cooked fruits and veggies. This is because

although he hasn't had many bowel movements they are diarrhea.

<<This morning he dont lie to eat anything again, I give him 2 eggs

for 2 hours,little by little.

I think that my son loose his apetite..

Is this normal in begining??>>

Many children feel very lethargic, tired, no appetite at the

beginning. Epsom salt baths will help his body get rid of the toxins

that come with die off. This is very normal.

<<I read, read that many kids makes a wonderful changes from SCD,

from day 1 some, we, are far away from it!!!!!!! Behaviour is

worst....

Sorry for long letter.

Need some advicess please...

Goran

Father of 4 yo son autistic

SCD day 5>>

Not all have these wonderful changes happen the first few days.

Usually once the worst part of the die off passes, things improve.

Sheila

September 11, 2007

I think this is Die-Off. I do not have experience with children on

SCD, but I have read these emails. I believe it happens quite often

that children get WORSE in their behavior BEFORE they get better.

Continue on. Have you tried given him cooked carrots? You need to

boil them for 2 hours. They taste really great! I eat them mashed

(like a mouse, soft). You could also boil cucumbers, zucchini, long

green beans...

I hope that someone has some good advice for you! I think you are

going in the correct direction, though. Have you read the

constipation protocol on pecanbread about constipation (not

pooping?) You take prunes (dried plums without sugar)... boil them

in water and give a bit of this juice to him. You can also boil

apples or pears that do not have peals... that will help with

constipation also, I believe.

-kelly

September 11, 2007

Hi Goran,

If he doesn't like banana pancake, try to bake the banana without

anything. I just use a small oven and baking the banana will make it

sweeter and soft. My daughter really likes it, especially if I

drizzle with nut flour (very fine almond flour), you can also try

baked pear (I put a little bit of water in the same baking dish so

it's crunchy at the top but still moist inside).

If you can do the proper intro stage with the carrot chicken soup

and try to do the eggs differently each day so he doesn't get bored.

My daughter improved instantly when I did the intro diet properly

but slowing down when I introduced new foods as she has salycilates

& phenol intolerance. So, perseverance is needed here. Plan ahead

what you're going to give him and always prepare for a substitute if

he refuses one food. I tried to balance the meal i.e baked meat with

steamed & pureed vegetables (she doesn't like the veges but when I

put the baked meat on top of the veges in the same spoon, she will

have to eat both and having it pureed make it easy to swallow and

digest).

Hope this gives you more ideas.

Leena

Mum to Clarice Belle, 3 yo, ASD, SCD June 07

>

> Hi everybody,

>

> We are on day 5 of our SCD trial.

> Im sorry that I could not say that we see some " mirracles " as

many of you notice after the 1st day od SCD.

> I dont know why this happend to athers and no to us.

> I can say that his beahaviour is worst, moo non stop, nothing to

interest, only in 2m2 and something to sin in his hands, he didnt do

this before...

> On day 4 yeasterday he make the 1st poo after the 4 days of

constipation, but this was provoked from Epsom salth bath, my son

like to drink water, and he swallow a bit, I let him, and after few

hours, he make a poo, like diarhea...

> I want to ask you all for advice, no one else I have here:

> -My son have many gasses and very very smell !!

> Can anyone tell me is this normal is this die-of etc, it is very

smell and non stop gasses??

> He is not officialy on intro but is the same, he dont want to

eat anything.

> How days goes he DONT LIKE TO EAT, anything, he dont like

pankakes (banana, checken), he stop the eggs (he likes them lot), he

dont want to eat meat, meat balls, he dont like to taste the SCD nut

bread.

> These 4 days he eats:

> Breakfast-egss 2; Lunch-Chicken broth, Meat balls broth, Dinner-

very difficult to eat, sometimes eggs again or broth..

> From yeasterday he stop the egss, last night he dont like to eat

anything. I prepare him eggs-no, broth-no, SCD bread-NO, at least I

gove him 1 1/2 bannana, and this was the dinner.

> This morning he dont lie to eat anything again, I give him 2

eggs for 2 hours,little by little.

> I think that my son loose his apetite..

> Is this normal in begining??

> I read, read that many kids makes a wonderful changes from SCD,

from day 1 some, we, are far away from it!!!!!!! Behaviour is

worst....

> Sorry for long letter.

> Need some advicess please...

> Goran

> Father of 4 yo son autistic

> SCD day 5

>

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September 11, 2007

Hi,

Thanks for reply....

I hope that its die-off too, and that we are on right road..

I give him many cooked crrots, 10 in broth of chicken, I cook them more that 4

hours.

The broth was very good, but I think it was too much for him....

Im not sure did he will eat those vegetables????

Ill try...

I cook him a plums, apples, pears , but he dont like to eat them just water...

I put him in a epsom saly bath and after 2 hours he make a poo after 4 days...

Today we are day 6 and again problem with eating...

Regards

Ottesen wrote:

I think this is Die-Off. I do not have experience with children on

SCD, but I have read these emails. I believe it happens quite often

that children get WORSE in their behavior BEFORE they get better.

Continue on. Have you tried given him cooked carrots? You need to

boil them for 2 hours. They taste really great! I eat them mashed

(like a mouse, soft). You could also boil cucumbers, zucchini, long

green beans...

I hope that someone has some good advice for you! I think you are

going in the correct direction, though. Have you read the

constipation protocol on pecanbread about constipation (not

pooping?) You take prunes (dried plums without sugar)... boil them

in water and give a bit of this juice to him. You can also boil

apples or pears that do not have peals... that will help with

constipation also, I believe.

-kelly

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September 11, 2007

Hi,

Thanks for reply...

He dont like the pankakes but he likes banana a lot, he just eat 2 od them....

I dont need to bake it or.... just he likes banana, but to give only banana

for breakfat is it ehough for him????

Reg the proper Intro, I hope I make all allright, make a goos chocken broth

with many carrots and very taste, he likes it, but how days go he dont want to

eat.....and this is a problem, specially breakfast and dinner...

Today I prepare 2 boiled eggs, put some olive oil and lemon in, but when he

see them he dont want to eats them, he put in his mouth and keep dont svallow...

I read sooo many stories of improvement but I think that we are not so lucky,

we always prefare the complicated way in all life, its a destiny I think....

Last night I prapare him a chicken meat and put to stay all night in sauce,

and today I cook it for 3 hours, it was great, and finaly he eat for lunch all

meat, and 1 banana, shortly he ask and get second banana...

Is it OK to give him 2 bananas one by one, very riped....????

I need solutions and ideas for breakfast, tomorv I will prepare a eggs and

banana, but separatey baked, will see.

Reagards

Goran

claricebellemum wrote: