Die off and constipation questions

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

my 13 year old daughter (Asperger's syndrome) is on day 4 of the SCD

diet. Phase one foods, chicken soup etc. this weekend.

She never has had a diarrhea problem, but rather has a constipation

problem.

I asked her if anything is different. She was vague. Talking seems

to stress her out even more than usual (a good sign of die off, I

hope????)

She said something about green floaty poop, that it was a little bit

different but she couldn't say how.

Since she's 13, I don't really have access to her poop, if you know

what I mean. Not like a small child.

She also mentioned gas and rumblies in her stomach/bowels, flatulence

as being new.

I''ve been reading and re-reading the web site voraciously, and there

is little information about how to tell if she can tolerate a food

with the constipation problem as opposed to diarrhea.

She's pooping about every other day.

Our yogurt maker and progurt are on order. I plan on phasing in the

goat milk yogurt slowly.

She seems zoned out, and had trouble focusing on school work this

morning, especially the parts the involved communication with me.

Now she's hiding in her room and being alone.

Are we on the right track?

Alana Sheldahl

daughter with Asperger Syndrome, age 13

who has gotten increasingly more autistic over the years.

GFCF since April of this year, now switced to SCdiet.

[Guest guest]

Hi Alana,

<< my 13 year old daughter (Asperger's syndrome) is on day 4 of the

SCD diet. Phase one foods, chicken soup etc. this weekend.>>

<<She never has had a diarrhea problem, but rather has a constipation

problem.

>

> I asked her if anything is different. She was vague. Talking

seems to stress her out even more than usual (a good sign of die off,

I hope????)>>

Yes, this is a possible die off sign.

<<She said something about green floaty poop, that it was a little

bit different but she couldn't say how.>>

Green stool is definitely a die off sign.

<< She also mentioned gas and rumblies in her stomach/bowels,

flatulence as being new.>>

Which foods is she eating exactly? Fats & oils? Fruits and vegg?

etc..

<<I''ve been reading and re-reading the web site voraciously, and

there is little information about how to tell if she can tolerate a

food with the constipation problem as opposed to diarrhea.

>

> She's pooping about every other day.

>

> Our yogurt maker and progurt are on order. I plan on phasing in

the goat milk yogurt slowly.

That's good, it is important to start small : 1/8-1/4 tsp.

<<She seems zoned out, and had trouble focusing on school work this

> morning, especially the parts the involved communication with me.

> Now she's hiding in her room and being alone.>>

Zoning out, lethargy are symptoms of die off.

>

> Are we on the right track?>>

Seems to be.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

You asked what foods she's eating...

well, let me think. It's been eggs, ripe banana, chicken and carrot

soup (I followed the instructions for pureeing the carrots, etc. It

had garlic, onion, and celery chuncks cooked in for flavor, that she

picked out), hamburger patties, homemade apple sauce, homemade cooked

pears, zuchhini noodles without skin or seeds...that was intro.

Fats have been coconut oil, safflower oil, 1 portion of ghee (in the

zucchini),

I've used cinnamon, nutmeg, ground cloves, salt, pepper, garlic in

cooking.

Yesterday we added some avocado and she did well on it. Next up to

try is pumpkin.

And so it goes. Today she's feeling hot on the inside with cold,

clammy skin on the outside and is definitely acting like she's not

feeling well.

I have very high hopes. I want my daughter back!

thanks so much for all your help.

alana

mom to Bethany, age 13, Asperger syndrome, worsening Autistic

symptoms over the years.

> Hi Alana,

>

> << my 13 year old daughter (Asperger's syndrome) is on day 4 of the

> SCD diet. Phase one foods, chicken soup etc. this weekend.>>

>

> <<She never has had a diarrhea problem, but rather has a constipation

> problem.

> >

> > I asked her if anything is different. She was vague. Talking

> seems to stress her out even more than usual (a good sign of die off,

> I hope????)>>

>

> Yes, this is a possible die off sign.

>

> <<She said something about green floaty poop, that it was a little

> bit different but she couldn't say how.>>

>

> Green stool is definitely a die off sign.

>

> << She also mentioned gas and rumblies in her stomach/bowels,

> flatulence as being new.>>

>

> Which foods is she eating exactly? Fats & oils? Fruits and vegg?

> etc..

>

> <<I''ve been reading and re-reading the web site voraciously, and

> there is little information about how to tell if she can tolerate a

> food with the constipation problem as opposed to diarrhea.

> >

> > She's pooping about every other day.

> >

> > Our yogurt maker and progurt are on order. I plan on phasing in

> the goat milk yogurt slowly.

>

> That's good, it is important to start small : 1/8-1/4 tsp.

>

> <<She seems zoned out, and had trouble focusing on school work this

> > morning, especially the parts the involved communication with me.

> > Now she's hiding in her room and being alone.>>

>

> Zoning out, lethargy are symptoms of die off.

> >

> > Are we on the right track?>>

>

> Seems to be.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alana,

<<You asked what foods she's eating...

>

> well, let me think. It's been eggs, ripe banana, chicken and

carrot > soup (I followed the instructions for pureeing the carrots,

etc. It > had garlic, onion, and celery chuncks cooked in for

flavor, that she > picked out), hamburger patties, homemade apple

sauce, homemade cooked > pears, zuchhini noodles without skin or

seeds...that was intro.>>

>

> Fats have been coconut oil, safflower oil, 1 portion of ghee (in

the > zucchini),

If the stools continue to float you may want to cut back on some of

the fat/oils for a short while.

If she isn't used to eating all the fruits and veggies that may

contribute to the gassiness. If the gassiness doesn't reduce/stop

you may want to try removing onion and garlic totally (ie not cook

soup with them.)

> I've used cinnamon, nutmeg, ground cloves, salt, pepper, garlic in

> cooking.>

> Yesterday we added some avocado and she did well on it. Next up

to > try is pumpkin.

>

> And so it goes. Today she's feeling hot on the inside with cold,

> clammy skin on the outside and is definitely acting like she's not

> feeling well.

This may be die off also - epsom salt baths may help with these

symptoms.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and