Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I was wondering if anyone can help me with some information on Kefir. I have purchased some Kefir starter and would like to make goat yoghurt using it however on the instructions it says that the Kefir will ferment at room temperature. Do we follow proper SCD yoghurt method using the starter or following the instructions on the packet. Just a little confused. Venessa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I have made Kefie before and you have to use a different procedure than for yogurt. You must ferment it at about 80 F and not the 110 F that you use for yogurt. From what I read before starting this diet, Kefir is actually better for you than yogurt because it uses different strains of healthy bacteria and healthy yeasts but it doesn't seem to be recommended on the SCD to much. I read somewhere in some SCD info. that is " to advanced " for our damaged systems. I gave up on making Kefir along time ago though because I couldn't find anywhere in my house that was consistently 80 F and there is no machine that maintains this temp. Some say the oven pilot light works but I don't have one, other say the oven light left on works but mine was to hot. The only place that even came close for me was on top of my water heater in the garage but this was too variable every time we opened the garage the temp went down. I even have a dehydrator and tried this but it wouldn't go down that low. Anyway's, I think we are supposed to stick with Kefir on the SCD, at least at first. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 At 09:49 AM 9/23/2007, you wrote: > From what I read before starting this diet, > Kefir is actually better for you than yogurt > because it uses different strains of healthy > bacteria and healthy yeasts but it doesn't seem > to be recommended on the SCD to much. I read > somewhere in some SCD info. that is " to advanced " for our damaged systems. Kefir is just fine, but there's no point in dumping in a whole bunch of yeasts and things when many people who need SCD have a yeast problem already. The objective with SCD is to starve out the bad bacteria, replacing them with acidophilus, which does not go overboard like some other probiotics. We also try to deal with yeasts, but that's a whole other ball game, as yeasts don't starve out. We give the digestive system food it can handle and absorb, and let the gut heal. Then and only then do we look at mixes of bacteria and yeasts. It isn't that kefir is BAD. It's that unhealed systems aren't ready for it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hi Marilyn, I keep running into the problem of not finding yogurt starter locally. Whole Foods carries it usually not for the last month, I can't get it. They always, always have kefir next to it--same yogourmet brand. Is 9-10 months into the diet too early to try it? Of course, I have the Eurocuisine yogurt maker so could I use a mason jar in the dehydrator to make it? Thanks, Debbie 38 crohn's pentasa scd 1/07 > > At 09:49 AM 9/23/2007, you wrote: > > > From what I read before starting this diet, > > Kefir is actually better for you than yogurt > > because it uses different strains of healthy > > bacteria and healthy yeasts but it doesn't seem > > to be recommended on the SCD to much. I read > > somewhere in some SCD info. that is " to advanced " for our damaged > systems. > > Kefir is just fine, but there's no point in > dumping in a whole bunch of yeasts and things > when many people who need SCD have a yeast problem already. > > The objective with SCD is to starve out the bad > bacteria, replacing them with acidophilus, which > does not go overboard like some other probiotics. > > We also try to deal with yeasts, but that's a > whole other ball game, as yeasts don't starve out. > > We give the digestive system food it can handle > and absorb, and let the gut heal. > > Then and only then do we look at mixes of bacteria and yeasts. > > It isn't that kefir is BAD. It's that unhealed systems aren't ready for > it. > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 >I keep running into the problem of not finding yogurt starter locally. >Whole Foods carries it usually not for the last month, I can't get it. They >always, always have kefir next to it--same yogourmet brand. Is 9-10 months >into the diet too early to try it? Of course, I have the Eurocuisine yogurt >maker so could I use a mason jar in the dehydrator to make it? Debbie, Honest to Ghu, I gave up on my Whole Foods as far as yogurt starter is concerned -- I just order it from Lucy's Kitchen Shop. (I also gave up on them as far as getting DCCC -- I get it from a Fresh Market across the lake. Yes, you could use mason jars in the Excalibur dehydrator to make yogurt in. Whether or not it's to soon for kefir depends on YOUR progress. How are you tolerating the majority of SCD foods? — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Hi Venessa, <<I was wondering if anyone can help me with some information on Kefir. > I have purchased some Kefir starter and would like to make goat yoghurt using it>> Sorry, but you need yogurt starter to make goat yogurt. Kefir starter will make Kefir. If you use goat milk it will make goat kefir. Kefir is not SCD illegal but it isn't recommended until a SCDer (especially children) are well. however on the instructions it says that the Kefir will > ferment at room temperature. Do we follow proper SCD yoghurt method > using the starter or following the instructions on the packet. Just a > little confused. Venessa. Plese have a look at:http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm It explains about kefir and SCD and gives a link for making kefir (when ready for it). Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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