An explanation as to why Adzuki Beans are illegal.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Just to clear the air as to the legality of the Adzuki Bean - this bean is

very much ILLEGAL. Please don't make a mistake and eat this bean.

From what I read of Elaine and Dr Haas work, if you feel that certain foods

should be legal and you feel that there is no reason that they should be

made illegal, you have the option of looking up the molecular structure of

the food.

I have done this for the Adzuki Bean and take a look at what it says below.

The Adzuki bean starch had the highest maximum viscosity and breakdown? That

means that it has a high resistance of fluid to form under sheer stress.

From what I understand, this is going to be a very difficult starch to break

down in your body and that is why this bean is illegal.

Abstract;The molecular structures and pasting properties of four legume

starches (white Dutch runner; WDR, adzuki bean, pea and common bean) were

examined. The apparent amylose content (27.0-30.0%) was 3.9-9.4% higher than

the actual amylose content (17.6-25.5%) due to the high iodine affinity (IA)

of the legume amylopectins. The crystalline type of pea starch was of Cb and

those of the others were of the Cc. Adzuki bean starch had the highest

maximum viscosity and breakdown. No breakdown was observed for pea starch.

The legume amylopectins had IA of 1.32-2.28 g/100 g and number-average

chain-length of 21-22. The phosphorus content of amylopectin varied between

13 and 820 ppm with WDR amylopectin having the highest content. All the

legume amylopectins had 1-4% of long-chain fraction, being consistent with

their high IA. Compared with starches of cereal amylopectins, the legume

amylopectins seemed to contain a relatively small amount of A-chain

fraction. Distribution pattern for chains of degree of polymerization (DP)

6-8 was similar to those of potato and sweet potato amylopectins in which

the amount of these chains decreased with an increase in DP. The legume

amyloses had number-average DP of 820-1350 and comprised 2.4-4.7 chains per

molecule, being similar to cereal amyloses. Among the legume amyloses,

adzuki bean amylose was the largest and most branched molecule. (author

abst.)

From what I have read, Elaine says that if you are in doubt, to leave it out

of your diet.

I hope this gives you closure as to the legality of the Adzuki Bean.

Susie

[Guest guest]

hi susie and others,

could i please ask exactly what type of beans are legal? we have been on the

diet for 1yr and 3 mths and i made baked beans for audrey and she loves them! i

fear that i may have used the wrong beans? there are also some baked beans at

my health food store that are made by 'siena'. they are organic and contain

just tomato and salt and i would like to offer them as on occassional treat

because making my own was very time consuming (and not really as soft as the

tinned ones).

roweena x

mum to audrey

scd since june 2006

An explanation as to why Adzuki Beans are illegal.

Posted by: " Susie Marie Sawaya " susiemarie79@... susiemarie79

Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:56 am (PST)

Hi all,

Just to clear the air as to the legality of the Adzuki Bean - this bean is

very much ILLEGAL. Please don't make a mistake and eat this bean.

From what I read of Elaine and Dr Haas work, if you feel that certain foods

should be legal and you feel that there is no reason that they should be

made illegal, you have the option of looking up the molecular structure of

the food.

I have done this for the Adzuki Bean and take a look at what it says below.

The Adzuki bean starch had the highest maximum viscosity and breakdown? That

means that it has a high resistance of fluid to form under sheer stress.

From what I understand, this is going to be a very difficult starch to break

down in your body and that is why this bean is illegal.

Abstract;The molecular structures and pasting properties of four legume

starches (white Dutch runner; WDR, adzuki bean, pea and common bean) were

examined. The apparent amylose content (27.0-30.0%) was 3.9-9.4% higher than

the actual amylose content (17.6-25.5%) due to the high iodine affinity (IA)

of the legume amylopectins. The crystalline type of pea starch was of Cb and

those of the others were of the Cc. Adzuki bean starch had the highest

maximum viscosity and breakdown. No breakdown was observed for pea starch.

The legume amylopectins had IA of 1.32-2.28 g/100 g and number-average

chain-length of 21-22. The phosphorus content of amylopectin varied between

13 and 820 ppm with WDR amylopectin having the highest content. All the

legume amylopectins had 1-4% of long-chain fraction, being consistent with

their high IA. Compared with starches of cereal amylopectins, the legume

amylopectins seemed to contain a relatively small amount of A-chain

fraction. Distribution pattern for chains of degree of polymerization (DP)

6-8 was similar to those of potato and sweet potato amylopectins in which

the amount of these chains decreased with an increase in DP. The legume

amyloses had number-average DP of 820-1350 and comprised 2.4-4.7 chains per

molecule, being similar to cereal amyloses. Among the legume amyloses,

adzuki bean amylose was the largest and most branched molecule. (author

abst.)

From what I have read, Elaine says that if you are in doubt, to leave it out

of your diet.

I hope this gives you closure as to the legality of the Adzuki Bean.

Susie

[Guest guest]

At 05:25 PM 9/30/2007, you wrote:

>could i please ask exactly what type of beans

>are legal? we have been on the diet for 1yr and

>3 mths and i made baked beans for audrey and she

>loves them! i fear that i may have used the

>wrong beans? there are also some baked beans at

>my health food store that are made by 'siena'.

>they are organic and contain just tomato and

>salt and i would like to offer them as on

>occassional treat because making my own was very

>time consuming (and not really as soft as the tinned ones).

Roweena,

NO canned vegetables are legal unless you make your own.

Legal legumes are navy pea beans, baby limas (fresh or dried), and lentils.

With regards to the homemade beans being tough,

did you add salt to them while you were cooking

them? Salting them while cooking them can make

them very tought. Did you soak them over night,

rinse them, throwing away the soak water, and then soak and rinse again?

The easiest way to have baked beans to offer is

to make a large batch and then freeze them in one

or two cup portions to be defrosted as needed.

Or, if you know how to can things, you may can your own.

Experience has shown that commercially canned

vegetables often have undisclosed illegals, so I

think your commercial beans would be a very bad idea.

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

What are navy pea beans? Are they just regular navy beans like the kind you get

in any grocery store or some particular kind?

Bonita

Re: Re: An explanation as to why Adzuki Beans are

illegal.

At 05:25 PM 9/30/2007, you wrote:

>could i please ask exactly what type of beans

>are legal? we have been on the diet for 1yr and

>3 mths and i made baked beans for audrey and she

>loves them! i fear that i may have used the

>wrong beans? there are also some baked beans at

>my health food store that are made by 'siena'.

>they are organic and contain just tomato and

>salt and i would like to offer them as on

>occassional treat because making my own was very

>time consuming (and not really as soft as the tinned ones).

Roweena,

NO canned vegetables are legal unless you make your own.

Legal legumes are navy pea beans, baby limas (fresh or dried), and lentils.

With regards to the homemade beans being tough,

did you add salt to them while you were cooking

them? Salting them while cooking them can make

them very tought. Did you soak them over night,

rinse them, throwing away the soak water, and then soak and rinse again?

The easiest way to have baked beans to offer is

to make a large batch and then freeze them in one

or two cup portions to be defrosted as needed.

Or, if you know how to can things, you may can your own.

Experience has shown that commercially canned

vegetables often have undisclosed illegals, so I

think your commercial beans would be a very bad idea.

- Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

thanks for the feedback marilyn!

i did soak overnight and cooked them in my crockpot for 10 or so

hours... im sure iw ould have added salt although i cant remember?

audrey ate them and thought they were great but my husband didnt

really agree! will give them another go and see what happens.

roweena x

> >could i please ask exactly what type of beans

> >are legal? we have been on the diet for 1yr and

> >3 mths and i made baked beans for audrey and she

> >loves them! i fear that i may have used the

> >wrong beans? there are also some baked beans at

> >my health food store that are made by 'siena'.

> >they are organic and contain just tomato and

> >salt and i would like to offer them as on

> >occassional treat because making my own was very

> >time consuming (and not really as soft as the tinned ones).

>

> Roweena,

>

> NO canned vegetables are legal unless you make your own.

>

> Legal legumes are navy pea beans, baby limas (fresh or dried), and

lentils.

>

> With regards to the homemade beans being tough,

> did you add salt to them while you were cooking

> them? Salting them while cooking them can make

> them very tought. Did you soak them over night,

> rinse them, throwing away the soak water, and then soak and rinse

again?

>

> The easiest way to have baked beans to offer is

> to make a large batch and then freeze them in one

> or two cup portions to be defrosted as needed.

> Or, if you know how to can things, you may can your own.

>

> Experience has shown that commercially canned

> vegetables often have undisclosed illegals, so I

> think your commercial beans would be a very bad idea.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, just regulary navy beans from the grocery store.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

Add a little baking soda. It's a tip I got on here, and it really works to

soften the beans!

Ellen

10 y/o dd scd since 5/06 for crohn's