New to SCD - need help!

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My 3 boys (5yo with autism and 3 yo twins with PDD-NOS) all have

major gut/yeast/bacteria issues. We had been doing GFCF for about 1

1/2 years and then a few months ago moved on to a modified SCD. I

know that they are still getting things that she should not be

having. I decided to read the pecanbread site again and have decided

that I need to do the intro diet and work slowly through the stages.

After reading, I now have a lot of questions.

1. Probiotics? - It says that they should not be started until day

5. What if I am already giving probiotics? Should I stop and

restart them after day 5? Also it says to use on 3 billion cfu's

(giving it 2x/day). I have been using Custom Probiotics- L.

Rhamnosus, L. Salivarius, B. Bifidium, B. Infantis (D-Lactate Free)-

250 billion cfu/gm. This is way more than Elaine recommended.

Should I be using something different? I had heard though that

Custom Probiotics are an excellent choice in probiotics. I am

confused?!?

2. Supplements? My boys are all on a boatload of supplements. I

know that some of them are not SCD legal. How crucial is it in the

beginning to use legal supplements? Should I work on diet first and

then slowly stop illegal supplements and introduce legal versions?

3. Meal Planning? Does anyone know where I can help with SCD meal

planning? I hate to cook and have never done well in the kitchen. I

am looking for ways to simplify the transition into SCD. I need

someone to say, " ok, this is what you should feed your boys today for

breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, supper, snack. " I need this for

everyday of the week. Do you find that you feed your kids the same

thing everyday for each meal?

When I first started SCD with the boys, I did a very short intro

period and just jumped right into advanced foods that should not have

been introduced so soon. I want this time to be different. I want

to do the intro diet for at least 3-5 days and then slowly progress

through the stages.

My boys all have nasty BM's that are often loose, wet, foul-smelling

and at times gritty. We need to heal their guts and I truly believe

that their diet is the first step. It is just so difficult to remain

consistent when they are in the care others throughout the day.

Your feedback and answers to my questions are greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Jen

Mom to Zach (5-autism), Dylan & Drew (both 3-PDD)

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Diane,

<< My 3 boys (5yo with autism and 3 yo twins with PDD-NOS) all have

> major gut/yeast/bacteria issues. We had been doing GFCF for about

1 1/2 years and then a few months ago moved on to a modified SCD. I

> know that they are still getting things that she should not be

> having. I decided to read the pecanbread site again and have

decided > that I need to do the intro diet and work slowly through

the stages. > After reading, I now have a lot of questions.

>

> 1. Probiotics? - It says that they should not be started until day

> 5. What if I am already giving probiotics? Should I stop and

> restart them after day 5?>>

Elaine suggested doing the intro without probiotics (there are

exceptions). If you kids really need it you could keep a L.

acidophilus probiotic or S. boulardii (Other bacteria/yeast are not

SCD legal in probiotic capsules/powders). Some don't notice a huge

difference with probiotics if this is the case you should wait until

after the intro.

<<Also it says to use on 3 billion cfu's

> (giving it 2x/day). I have been using Custom Probiotics- L.

> Rhamnosus, L. Salivarius, B. Bifidium, B. Infantis (D-Lactate Free)-

> 250 billion cfu/gm. This is way more than Elaine recommended.

> Should I be using something different?>>

Yes, these are illegal probiotic strains. The B. Bifidium, B.

Infantis particularly are very bad for SCDers. It seems that they

overgrow and have caused flares of bowel disease or increased

behaviours when people do SCD. (In the abscence of their natural

competitors they flourish with SCD legal foods and become one of

the " bad guys " ).

There are some legal probiotics listed at

http://pecanbread.com/new/probiotics1.html

<<2. Supplements? My boys are all on a boatload of supplements. I

> know that some of them are not SCD legal. How crucial is it in the

> beginning to use legal supplements? Should I work on diet first

and > then slowly stop illegal supplements and introduce legal

versions? >>

It depends on how illegal the supplements are and how many illegals

are in them. The supplement page may help with this

http://pecanbread.com/new/Sup1.html

<<3. Meal Planning? Does anyone know where I can help with SCD meal

> planning? I hate to cook and have never done well in the kitchen.

I > am looking for ways to simplify the transition into SCD. I need

> someone to say, " ok, this is what you should feed your boys today

for breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, supper, snack. " I need this for

> everyday of the week. Do you find that you feed your kids the same

> thing everyday for each meal? >>

In the beginning stages especially depending on the bowel symptoms

many of the same foods are used so meal planning is pretty easy.

(Especially the intro because it is only a few foods)..There are meal

plan suggestions as well as great recipes geared towards kids,

including many dairy free recipes at

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#menu

Recipes:

http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html

More cooking tips:

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#transition

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#tips

<<... I want

> to do the intro diet for at least 3-5 days and then slowly progress

> through the stages.

>

> My boys all have nasty BM's that are often loose, wet, foul-

smelling ...

Jen

> Mom to Zach (5-autism), Dylan & Drew (both 3-PDD)>>

If after the intro you are unsure what types of food or recipes to

use let us know and we can help out with suggestions and appropiate

recipes.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and