Bifidobacterium supplementation

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone-

I have a question regarding probiotic supplementation with

bifidobacterium. My daughter, Chloe, has been on the diet for 3 months

and eating the goat yogurt with 2 capsules a day of the SCDophilus. A

recent lab test showed that her Lactobacillus levels were great but

that she had no bifidobacterium. Should I supplement with

bifidobacterium? Also-I've been looking and looking and can't find any

that's SCD legal. Does anyone know of any? Additionally, my daughter

was found to have bad bacteria-staphylococcus aureus and Klebsiella

Oxytoca. Does anyone know of a good, but gentle natural antibacterial

that's gentle on the stomach and won't kill off the good bacteria? I'd

hate to start all over again. My daughter has severe gastritis and

small bowel disease. I appreciate anyone's help/input. Thanks so much

everyone! Sally (mom to Chloe- 4 y.o., ASD, small bowel disease,

gastritis, SCD 7/07 and Rhys, 2-ASD, SCD-9/07).

[Guest guest]

check out http://www.customprobiotics.com/

<http://www.customprobiotics.com/> for SCD legal probiotics. I'm

curious about the answers you get. My son has the same problem--labs

show no bifido growth at all, so I've been giving him some dispite the

SCD position on Bifido.

Holly

whole family SCD for 8 weeks, Quinn, age 4, autism

>

> Hi everyone-

> I have a question regarding probiotic supplementation with

> bifidobacterium. My daughter, Chloe, has been on the diet for 3 months

> and eating the goat yogurt with 2 capsules a day of the SCDophilus. A

> recent lab test showed that her Lactobacillus levels were great but

> that she had no bifidobacterium. Should I supplement with

> bifidobacterium? Also-I've been looking and looking and can't find any

> that's SCD legal. Does anyone know of any? Additionally, my daughter

> was found to have bad bacteria-staphylococcus aureus and Klebsiella

> Oxytoca. Does anyone know of a good, but gentle natural antibacterial

> that's gentle on the stomach and won't kill off the good bacteria? I'd

> hate to start all over again. My daughter has severe gastritis and

> small bowel disease. I appreciate anyone's help/input. Thanks so much

> everyone! Sally (mom to Chloe- 4 y.o., ASD, small bowel disease,

> gastritis, SCD 7/07 and Rhys, 2-ASD, SCD-9/07).

>

[Guest guest]

*Sheila's Comments Regarding *bifidum bacteria

" The VSL#3 is illegal and I certainly don't recommend it. [VSL#3 contains

bifidum bacteria ]

I've consulted with a few people who have gone into massive flares after

trying the VSL#3. Also I know lots who have had major problems with bifidum

bacteria (especially when on SCD).

Perhaps it is because the SCD clears out the harmful microbes and bifidum

takes over, overgrowing into huge numbers. The by-products of bifidum

bacteria could be what sends people into flares - especially those who have

sensitive guts or those at the beginning of the diet, these people

unfortunately have " fertile ground " for bifidum bacteria to overgrow. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks Holly for the website. I'm curious to know-any ill effects at

all from the bifido supplementation? Which bifido supp. are you

using? How much do you give him a day, when and how often? Thanks so

much for your response. It's so appreciated! Sally (Chloe-4, autism

SCD since 7/07, Rhys-2 SCD since 9/07)

> >

> > Hi everyone-

> > I have a question regarding probiotic supplementation with

> > bifidobacterium. My daughter, Chloe, has been on the diet for 3

months

> > and eating the goat yogurt with 2 capsules a day of the

SCDophilus. A

> > recent lab test showed that her Lactobacillus levels were great

but

> > that she had no bifidobacterium. Should I supplement with

> > bifidobacterium? Also-I've been looking and looking and can't

find any

> > that's SCD legal. Does anyone know of any? Additionally, my

daughter

> > was found to have bad bacteria-staphylococcus aureus and

Klebsiella

> > Oxytoca. Does anyone know of a good, but gentle natural

antibacterial

> > that's gentle on the stomach and won't kill off the good

bacteria? I'd

> > hate to start all over again. My daughter has severe gastritis and

> > small bowel disease. I appreciate anyone's help/input. Thanks so

much

> > everyone! Sally (mom to Chloe- 4 y.o., ASD, small bowel disease,

> > gastritis, SCD 7/07 and Rhys, 2-ASD, SCD-9/07).

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally,

<<Hi everyone-

> I have a question regarding probiotic supplementation with

> bifidobacterium. My daughter, Chloe, has been on the diet for 3

months > and eating the goat yogurt with 2 capsules a day of the

SCDophilus. A > recent lab test showed that her Lactobacillus levels

were great but > that she had no bifidobacterium. Should I

supplement with > bifidobacterium?>>

Some research indicates that when bifidum bacteria persist past

infancy it can cause health troubles.

http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/13/3985.asp

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm

Lately bifidum has recieved a lot of positive press - Lots of people

are making money from it. Lots of companies are adding it to their

food.

<<Also-I've been looking and looking and can't find any

> that's SCD legal. Does anyone know of any? Additionally, my

daughter

> was found to have bad bacteria-staphylococcus aureus and Klebsiella

> Oxytoca. Does anyone know of a good, but gentle natural

antibacterial>>

I don't know if gentle antibacterials will have much effect on

these. Oil of Oregano may help (it is strong and strong tasting (not

bad tasting just intense)) so you can dilute it in juice or water.

Please have a look at this post:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/59162

If you use this just to be onthe safe side take all probiotics,

yogurt etc.. a few hours apart from any antibacterial treatment.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs,

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila for the info. I appreciate all your help. Chloe is

doing well albeit a bit stimmy since starting the yogurt-so I think

I'll just let things stay as they are and not give the bifido supp.

Regarding her bad bacteria, can the diet alone eventually kill or

control her bad bacteria including the Staph or do I need to treat

it? Her doctor recommended Viracin- which is made from plant tannin

extracts from the Acerin fruit and Canaigre root. I tried it, but

she started acting kinda silly and foggy on it, so I discontinued

it. I'll try the Oil of Oregano if the diet won't help with her bad

bugs. Sally (mom to Chloe 4, ASD, SCD since 7/07 and Rhys, 2, ASD and

SCD since 9/07)

>

> Hi Sally,

>

> <<Hi everyone-

> > I have a question regarding probiotic supplementation with

> > bifidobacterium. My daughter, Chloe, has been on the diet for 3

> months > and eating the goat yogurt with 2 capsules a day of the

> SCDophilus. A > recent lab test showed that her Lactobacillus

levels

> were great but > that she had no bifidobacterium. Should I

> supplement with > bifidobacterium?>>

>

> Some research indicates that when bifidum bacteria persist past

> infancy it can cause health troubles.

> http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/13/3985.asp

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm

>

> Lately bifidum has recieved a lot of positive press - Lots of

people

> are making money from it. Lots of companies are adding it to their

> food.

>

> <<Also-I've been looking and looking and can't find any

> > that's SCD legal. Does anyone know of any? Additionally, my

> daughter

> > was found to have bad bacteria-staphylococcus aureus and

Klebsiella

> > Oxytoca. Does anyone know of a good, but gentle natural

> antibacterial>>

>

> I don't know if gentle antibacterials will have much effect on

> these. Oil of Oregano may help (it is strong and strong tasting

(not

> bad tasting just intense)) so you can dilute it in juice or water.

> Please have a look at this post:

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/59162

>

> If you use this just to be onthe safe side take all probiotics,

> yogurt etc.. a few hours apart from any antibacterial treatment.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs,

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally,

<<Thanks Sheila for the info. I appreciate all your help. Chloe is

> doing well albeit a bit stimmy since starting the yogurt-so I think

> I'll just let things stay as they are and not give the bifido

supp.>>

Here is an interesting thread about S. aureus and dairy:

http://lyris.dundee.net/read/archive?id=228555 The yogurt may be

helping in more than one way.

<<Regarding her bad bacteria, can the diet alone eventually kill or

> control her bad bacteria including the Staph or do I need to treat

> it? Her doctor recommended Viracin- which is made from plant

tannin > extracts from the Acerin fruit and Canaigre root. I tried

it, but> she started acting kinda silly and foggy on it, so I

discontinued > it. I'll try the Oil of Oregano if the diet won't

help with her bad > bugs.

Sally (mom to Chloe 4, ASD, SCD since 7/07 and Rhys, 2, ASD and

> SCD since 9/07) >>>

Some also use caprylic acid against Staphylococcus aureus.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/67645

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs,

mom of and