Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 Hi Everyone, I have to report to you how things are going. It has been a little over 2 months now since surgery. Overall, things are really good. That's part of the good news. The best part is that I hit 50 lbs gone yesterday!! It makes me feel so powerful and hopeful and so grateful for this tool. Now on to the bad news. Two nights ago I had my first real dumping episode. I know why it happened. It was an extrmemly busy and stressful day and since I wasn't feeling hungry, my eating schedule became the bottom of the list. By 3:30 pm I realized that I had only had juice so far. I was hungery!! My stomach was actully churning. You know that real hunger signal that most of us never really felt before surgery. So I ate... 1/3 of a small breast of chicken, mashed potatoes and 3 oz of tuna. I was also very thirsty and dry so without thinking I finished a glass of juice ( maybe 4 oz) fairly quickly after eating that large, heavy meal. I knew within a few minutes that I had done something wrong. I did not get the stop now feelings while eating that I sometimes get. It started with a stomach ache and then some intestinal cramping. I can not stress enough that I have been reading this list since June and seen lots of people say they dumped. I had read the dumping syndrome description numerous times. I did not have a clue what I was in for!!!!! My impression was that I would have some cramping and feel it move through me and have an urgent BM or diarrhea. It started that way for about an hour. Then the 2nd hour it got worse and worse. Not only were my intestines popping, gurgling and cramping, but my abdominal musles started cramping and contorting. I have dealt with irritable bowel syndrome since I was 13 and had bad intestinal cramping as a teen that ruined many a night out, but I have never expereinced anyting like this. I think my pain tolerance is strong and I am usually silent. Physical pain does not make me cry. I was crying, screaming, moaning. I was home alone with my 20 mo old daughter. She was freaked out. I got stuck in a doorway with the muscle cramping and when the subsided I had to pry my hand from the top of the door. My fingers had cramped and wouldn't undue. My husband thought I should go to the ER, but I didn't know how to get there and didn't want to call and ambulance. I did call Dr. R to see if dumping should be that severe. I was so impressed with how quickly the office got through to him. In less than I minute he was pleasantly answering the phone. He was so sweet and friendly, but I was not in the mood for pleasantries! He assured me that what I was experiencing was dumping or at least a variation on it. That he got these kind of calls more than he wished and everyone always thought they were dying. HE said, " You will never do this again " . HE wished he had something to comfort me, but said he knoew of nothing to speed it up or stop it and that I was going to have to ride it out and that it could last FROM6-12 HOURS!!!!! I was panicked at that thought as I hung up. Thankfully by 3 and half hours the muscle spams subsided. I did take an Imodium pill hoping it would help with the cramping. I am not sure if it did anything, but I did not have any more loose stools. I did however have more gas than I have ever had in my entire life. My husband was very impressed LOL My husband had to come home from work and my parents had to leave a meeting early to come over quickly and watch the baby while I writhed in pain and did Lamaze breathing. After about 5 hours I was back to normal and just exhausted. By 6 hours I was very hungry again and this time had 1/2 cup of tomato soup without any problem. I cannot emphasize enough the difference between what I thought dumping was or would be and what I exeperienced. My advice is that you and your eating schedule come first whether you are hungry or not. 4-6 small meals with most of your liquid between meals. I certainly hope that I have learned my lesson. Anyway, I hope this scares you, because it ought to. I am thrilled about my 50 lb loss and doing fine overall. Laurie 9/20/00 319/269/150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 Wow, Laurie, great story! I mean sorry you went through it, but boy did you paint a good picture! The part that got me was when you called " 1/3 of a small breast of chicken, mashed potatoes and 3 oz of tuna " a " large, heavy meal. " How things change, eh? I'm glad Dr.R was there for you. I don't know how he spreads himself so thin, but I'm starting to think he should apply for sainthood! Glad you're feeling better and Congrats on the 50 pounds!! Love, Sperb >>> dmalony@... 11/22/00 07:36PM >>> Hi Everyone, I have to report to you how things are going. It has been a little over 2 months now since surgery. Overall, things are really good. That's part of the good news. The best part is that I hit 50 lbs gone yesterday!! It makes me feel so powerful and hopeful and so grateful for this tool. Now on to the bad news. Two nights ago I had my first real dumping episode. I know why it happened. It was an extrmemly busy and stressful day and since I wasn't feeling hungry, my eating schedule became the bottom of the list. By 3:30 pm I realized that I had only had juice so far. I was hungery!! My stomach was actully churning. You know that real hunger signal that most of us never really felt before surgery. So I ate... 1/3 of a small breast of chicken, mashed potatoes and 3 oz of tuna. I was also very thirsty and dry so without thinking I finished a glass of juice ( maybe 4 oz) fairly quickly after eating that large, heavy meal. I knew within a few minutes that I had done something wrong. I did not get the stop now feelings while eating that I sometimes get. It started with a stomach ache and then some intestinal cramping. I can not stress enough that I have been reading this list since June and seen lots of people say they dumped. I had read the dumping syndrome description numerous times. I did not have a clue what I was in for!!!!! My impression was that I would have some cramping and feel it move through me and have an urgent BM or diarrhea. It started that way for about an hour. Then the 2nd hour it got worse and worse. Not only were my intestines popping, gurgling and cramping, but my abdominal musles started cramping and contorting. I have dealt with irritable bowel syndrome since I was 13 and had bad intestinal cramping as a teen that ruined many a night out, but I have never expereinced anyting like this. I think my pain tolerance is strong and I am usually silent. Physical pain does not make me cry. I was crying, screaming, moaning. I was home alone with my 20 mo old daughter. She was freaked out. I got stuck in a doorway with the muscle cramping and when the subsided I had to pry my hand from the top of the door. My fingers had cramped and wouldn't undue. My husband thought I should go to the ER, but I didn't know how to get there and didn't want to call and ambulance. I did call Dr. R to see if dumping should be that severe. I was so impressed with how quickly the office got through to him. In less than I minute he was pleasantly answering the phone. He was so sweet and friendly, but I was not in the mood for pleasantries! He assured me that what I was experiencing was dumping or at least a variation on it. That he got these kind of calls more than he wished and everyone always thought they were dying. HE said, " You will never do this again " . HE wished he had something to comfort me, but said he knoew of nothing to speed it up or stop it and that I was going to have to ride it out and that it could last FROM6-12 HOURS!!!!! I was panicked at that thought as I hung up. Thankfully by 3 and half hours the muscle spams subsided. I did take an Imodium pill hoping it would help with the cramping. I am not sure if it did anything, but I did not have any more loose stools. I did however have more gas than I have ever had in my entire life. My husband was very impressed LOL My husband had to come home from work and my parents had to leave a meeting early to come over quickly and watch the baby while I writhed in pain and did Lamaze breathing. After about 5 hours I was back to normal and just exhausted. By 6 hours I was very hungry again and this time had 1/2 cup of tomato soup without any problem. I cannot emphasize enough the difference between what I thought dumping was or would be and what I exeperienced. My advice is that you and your eating schedule come first whether you are hungry or not. 4-6 small meals with most of your liquid between meals. I certainly hope that I have learned my lesson. Anyway, I hope this scares you, because it ought to. I am thrilled about my 50 lb loss and doing fine overall. Laurie 9/20/00 319/269/150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2000 Report Share Posted November 23, 2000 Laurie Well, you have certainly scared me!! I could barely breathe just reading your post. I am three weeks away from surgery and I am making my list of don'ts. Thanks so much for the education. I had no idea that dumping was that severe. Just thought it was " dumping " --- LOL! Margaret in St. Louis > >>> dmalony@... 11/22/00 07:36PM >>> > Hi Everyone, > > I have to report to you how things are going. It > has been a little > over 2 months now since surgery. Overall, things > are really good. > That's part of the good news. The best part is that > I hit 50 lbs gone > yesterday!! It makes me feel so powerful and > hopeful and so grateful > for this tool. > > Now on to the bad news. Two nights ago I had my > first real dumping > episode. I know why it happened. It was an > extrmemly busy and > stressful day and since I wasn't feeling hungry, my > eating schedule > became the bottom of the list. By 3:30 pm I > realized that I had only > had juice so far. I was hungery!! My stomach was > actully churning. > You know that real hunger signal that most of us > never really felt > before surgery. So I ate... 1/3 of a small breast > of chicken, mashed > potatoes and 3 oz of tuna. I was also very thirsty > and dry so without > thinking I finished a glass of juice ( maybe 4 oz) > fairly quickly > after eating that large, heavy meal. I knew within > a few minutes that > I had done something wrong. I did not get the stop > now feelings while > eating that I sometimes get. It started with a > stomach ache and then > some intestinal cramping. I can not stress enough > that I have been > reading this list since June and seen lots of people > say they dumped. > I had read the dumping syndrome description numerous > times. I did not > have a clue what I was in for!!!!! > > My impression was that I would have some cramping > and feel it move > through me and have an urgent BM or diarrhea. It > started that way for > about an hour. Then the 2nd hour it got worse and > worse. Not only > were my intestines popping, gurgling and cramping, > but my abdominal > musles started cramping and contorting. I have > dealt with irritable > bowel syndrome since I was 13 and had bad intestinal > cramping as a > teen that ruined many a night out, but I have never > expereinced > anyting like this. I think my pain tolerance is > strong and I am > usually silent. Physical pain does not make me cry. > I was crying, > screaming, moaning. I was home alone with my 20 mo > old daughter. She > was freaked out. I got stuck in a doorway with the > muscle cramping and > when the subsided I had to pry my hand from the top > of the door. My > fingers had cramped and wouldn't undue. > > My husband thought I should go to the ER, but I > didn't know how to get > there and didn't want to call and ambulance. I did > call Dr. R to see > if dumping should be that severe. I was so > impressed with how quickly > the office got through to him. In less than I > minute he was > pleasantly answering the phone. He was so sweet and > friendly, but I > was not in the mood for pleasantries! He assured me > that what I was > experiencing was dumping or at least a variation on > it. That he got > these kind of calls more than he wished and everyone > always thought > they were dying. HE said, " You will never do this > again " . HE wished > he had something to comfort me, but said he knoew of > nothing to speed > it up or stop it and that I was going to have to > ride it out and that > it could last FROM6-12 HOURS!!!!! I was panicked at > that thought as I > hung up. > > Thankfully by 3 and half hours the muscle spams > subsided. I did take > an Imodium pill hoping it would help with the > cramping. I am not sure > if it did anything, but I did not have any more > loose stools. I did > however have more gas than I have ever had in my > entire life. My > husband was very impressed LOL My husband had to > come home from work > and my parents had to leave a meeting early to come > over quickly and > watch the baby while I writhed in pain and did > Lamaze breathing. > After about 5 hours I was back to normal and just > exhausted. By 6 > hours I was very hungry again and this time had 1/2 > cup of tomato soup > without any problem. > > I cannot emphasize enough the difference between > what I thought > dumping was or would be and what I exeperienced. My > advice is that > you and your eating schedule come first whether you > are hungry or not. > 4-6 small meals with most of your liquid between > meals. I certainly > hope that I have learned my lesson. > > Anyway, I hope this scares you, because it ought to. > > I am thrilled about my 50 lb loss and doing fine > overall. > > Laurie > 9/20/00 > 319/269/150 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2000 Report Share Posted November 24, 2000 Margaret, She had a really bad dump.. they are not all that severe. (honest) sometimes you just can't belch. Trudy Re: Good News and Bad news Laurie Well, you have certainly scared me!! I could barely breathe just reading your post. I am three weeks away from surgery and I am making my list of don'ts. Thanks so much for the education. I had no idea that dumping was that severe. Just thought it was " dumping " --- LOL! Margaret in St. Louis > >>> dmalony@... 11/22/00 07:36PM >>> > Hi Everyone, > > I have to report to you how things are going. It > has been a little > over 2 months now since surgery. Overall, things > are really good. > That's part of the good news. The best part is that > I hit 50 lbs gone > yesterday!! It makes me feel so powerful and > hopeful and so grateful > for this tool. > > Now on to the bad news. Two nights ago I had my > first real dumping > episode. I know why it happened. It was an > extrmemly busy and > stressful day and since I wasn't feeling hungry, my > eating schedule > became the bottom of the list. By 3:30 pm I > realized that I had only > had juice so far. I was hungery!! My stomach was > actully churning. > You know that real hunger signal that most of us > never really felt > before surgery. So I ate... 1/3 of a small breast > of chicken, mashed > potatoes and 3 oz of tuna. I was also very thirsty > and dry so without > thinking I finished a glass of juice ( maybe 4 oz) > fairly quickly > after eating that large, heavy meal. I knew within > a few minutes that > I had done something wrong. I did not get the stop > now feelings while > eating that I sometimes get. It started with a > stomach ache and then > some intestinal cramping. I can not stress enough > that I have been > reading this list since June and seen lots of people > say they dumped. > I had read the dumping syndrome description numerous > times. I did not > have a clue what I was in for!!!!! > > My impression was that I would have some cramping > and feel it move > through me and have an urgent BM or diarrhea. It > started that way for > about an hour. Then the 2nd hour it got worse and > worse. Not only > were my intestines popping, gurgling and cramping, > but my abdominal > musles started cramping and contorting. I have > dealt with irritable > bowel syndrome since I was 13 and had bad intestinal > cramping as a > teen that ruined many a night out, but I have never > expereinced > anyting like this. I think my pain tolerance is > strong and I am > usually silent. Physical pain does not make me cry. > I was crying, > screaming, moaning. I was home alone with my 20 mo > old daughter. She > was freaked out. I got stuck in a doorway with the > muscle cramping and > when the subsided I had to pry my hand from the top > of the door. My > fingers had cramped and wouldn't undue. > > My husband thought I should go to the ER, but I > didn't know how to get > there and didn't want to call and ambulance. I did > call Dr. R to see > if dumping should be that severe. I was so > impressed with how quickly > the office got through to him. In less than I > minute he was > pleasantly answering the phone. He was so sweet and > friendly, but I > was not in the mood for pleasantries! He assured me > that what I was > experiencing was dumping or at least a variation on > it. That he got > these kind of calls more than he wished and everyone > always thought > they were dying. HE said, " You will never do this > again " . HE wished > he had something to comfort me, but said he knoew of > nothing to speed > it up or stop it and that I was going to have to > ride it out and that > it could last FROM6-12 HOURS!!!!! I was panicked at > that thought as I > hung up. > > Thankfully by 3 and half hours the muscle spams > subsided. I did take > an Imodium pill hoping it would help with the > cramping. I am not sure > if it did anything, but I did not have any more > loose stools. I did > however have more gas than I have ever had in my > entire life. My > husband was very impressed LOL My husband had to > come home from work > and my parents had to leave a meeting early to come > over quickly and > watch the baby while I writhed in pain and did > Lamaze breathing. > After about 5 hours I was back to normal and just > exhausted. By 6 > hours I was very hungry again and this time had 1/2 > cup of tomato soup > without any problem. > > I cannot emphasize enough the difference between > what I thought > dumping was or would be and what I exeperienced. My > advice is that > you and your eating schedule come first whether you > are hungry or not. > 4-6 small meals with most of your liquid between > meals. I certainly > hope that I have learned my lesson. > > Anyway, I hope this scares you, because it ought to. > > I am thrilled about my 50 lb loss and doing fine > overall. > > Laurie > 9/20/00 > 319/269/150 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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