An oldie back with a question

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I used to participate on this list way back years ago with my son

Luke. He is doing beautifully. This question is about me and I'm

really hoping someone here can help me.

I have had to return to SCD after realizing that gluten was causing my

depression/irritability/fatigue. When I removed that, then I noticed

corn and rice did about the same thing to me. So by default I am

pretty much back to scd. Which I'm fine with, I just want to feel good.

However, something is awry here and I can't find it. I'll start the

day feeling well and almost suddenly end up grumpy, tired, irritable -

extremely so, just as I feel after I've eaten gluten. I even have the

tell tale rash (tiny, sporadic red bumps on my breasts and abdomen that

itch like crazy - they went away when I went off gluten). I've been

eliminating things trying to find the culprit, there's some trace

amount hidden somewhere and I can't find it. I'm down to homemade SCD

yogurt made from raw cow's milk, blanched almonds, and a sweet n low

for breakfast. I waited to eat and sure enough, I was fine. I ate,

and now I'm a bear again. It's like something is raging inside me.

What on eart is the culprit, can anyone here help? I would sure

appreciate it.

thanks,

McConnell

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Welcome back ,

<<I used to participate on this list way back years ago with my son

> Luke. He is doing beautifully. This question is about me and I'm

> really hoping someone here can help me.

>

> I have had to return to SCD after realizing that gluten was causing

my > depression/irritability/fatigue. When I removed that, then I

noticed > corn and rice did about the same thing to me. So by

default I am > pretty much back to scd. Which I'm fine with, I just

want to feel good.

>

> However, something is awry here and I can't find it. I'll start

the day feeling well and almost suddenly end up grumpy, tired,

irritable - > extremely so, just as I feel after I've eaten gluten.

I even have the > tell tale rash (tiny, sporadic red bumps on my

breasts and abdomen that > itch like crazy - they went away when I

went off gluten). I've been > eliminating things trying to find the

culprit, there's some trace > amount hidden somewhere and I can't

find it. I'm down to homemade SCD > yogurt made from raw cow's milk,

blanched almonds, and a sweet n low > for breakfast. I waited to eat

and sure enough, I was fine. I ate, > and now I'm a bear again.

It's like something is raging inside me.> > What on eart is the

culprit, can anyone here help? I would sure

> appreciate it.

>

> thanks,

> McConnell>>

Did you restart with the intro diet and then readd foods after that -

that may help you determine what is causing your symptoms.

What ingredients are in your sweet n low?

Are they whole almonds or almond flour?

Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi Sheila, no I did not start back on intro diet. Maybe I need to.

It was really not my intention to go back to full blown SCD, only to go

gluten free. However, alternate grains and corn and rice all brought

on the same overwhelming fatigue. So I decided, gosh, I've done SCD

with my son in the past (he was strict for 2 years, healed up

beautifully, then gradually added things back in).

I know I'm not going about this right. But it sure befuddles me how

SCD yogurt (made from yogourmet starter and whole raw cow milk),

regular name brand Sweet n Low (now I thought I remembered that was

safe?), and blanched slivered almonds (from a bin in Earth Fare) could

have this effect. It's like night and day.

I've been looking for hidden gluten but I'm beginning to wonder if I'm

not tolerating the yogurt all of a sudden. Why woudl that be? weird...

So intro diet... if memory serves, eggs, chicken and carrot soup?

Right? I loaned my book out about a year ago and never got it back,

but I'm sure if I take time to scour the website it will all come back

to me.

Sigh.. I dont' have time for this. I'm homeschoolign these guys. But

I've gotta feel good to do that. I do appreciate it.

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Hi, ,

So glad to hear of Luke's success! Here's some info from the

Knowledge Base on Sweet 'n' Low.

The SCDT Knowledge Base

Saccharine

Deborah writes: Sweet N Low is legal, in spite of the tiny quantities

of

dextrose and cream of tartar, because it's the most easily found form

of

saccharine. But if you can find Necta Sweet or liquid Sweet N Low,

you'll avoid

those substances. CVS has always carried Necta Sweet. I'm sure they

can order it

for you. Liquid Sweet N Low is not ideal, as it's preserved with

methyl paraben.

We are all exposed to so many chemicals (pesticides, some plastics

and more)

that are estrogenic in their effect - it's not a good idea to

voluntarily

consume more.

Necta Sweet is really the best form of saccharine available in the

States, but

it's hard to find and slightly less convenient than Sweet N Low. I

believe

there's also a brand of saccharine in Canada that doesn't have the

illegals (ed.

Hermesetas). But if you can't find Necta Sweet, I wouldn't worry too

much about

using Sweet N Low..... For those of us who can't tolerate honey,

Sweet N Low has

been very helpful

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

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> I know I'm not going about this right. But it sure befuddles me

how

> SCD yogurt (made from yogourmet starter and whole raw cow milk),

> regular name brand Sweet n Low (now I thought I remembered that

was

> safe?), and blanched slivered almonds (from a bin in Earth Fare)

could

> have this effect. It's like night and day.

>

> I've been looking for hidden gluten but I'm beginning to wonder if

I'm

> not tolerating the yogurt all of a sudden. Why woudl that be?

weird...

>

>

Hi,

A few things come to mind...

1) " from a bin in Earth Fare " : Yikes. I am assuming you mean one of

those multiple bin set-ups where they have the scoops etc so you can

choose your own amounts? I would be concerned with cross

contamination, age of nuts, nuts PERIOD for a person as highly

sensative as you seem just now.

2) " Sweet N Low " : If *normal* food is problematic for you (grains,

etc), I would be wary of any artificial substances.

3) " whole raw cow's milk with yogourmet starter " : Is it the same

starter you used before? If so, and it has been a few years, did

they change up the formula? Are your symptoms the same or worse as

when you did SCD before (implying if you are more sensitive now,

perhaps choosing pastured goat or sheeps' milk over moo might be

worth looking at).

Just some thoughts. Good luck pinning it down :-)

-christine

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Hi ,

<<I'm > not tolerating the yogurt all of a sudden. Why woudl that

be? weird...>>

You may have some trouble in your gut from eating rice, corn etc..

You may need to clean things out before you tolerate the yogurt again.

The slivered almonds are more advanced than almond butter or almond

flour. Did you tolerate sweet n low before on the diet? If that is a

new item it may not be okay for you.

>

> So intro diet... if memory serves, eggs, chicken and carrot soup?

> Right? I loaned my book out about a year ago and never got it back,

> but I'm sure if I take time to scour the website it will all come

back

> to me.

The intro diet is at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/beginners.htm

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro (dairy free)

Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and