Cod Liver Oil?

[Guest guest]

What brands and/or flavors of arctic cod liver oil are SCD legal?

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Kirkman CLO gel caps and unflavored liquid are legal. If you're

interested in another kind, please post the ingredients. I'm sure

there are others that are legal.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

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> What brands and/or flavors of arctic cod liver oil are SCD legal?

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[Guest guest]

Thanks ! Our DAN! recommended Nordic Naturals. Any knowledge if

any of their flavors are SCD legal? Do they make unflavored CLO in

this brand ? If so, how does it taste?

> >

> > What brands and/or flavors of arctic cod liver oil are SCD legal?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

As I recall the Nordic Naturals have fruit " essence " --orange or lemon,

I think. Elaine considered it to be a reputable company and said these

essences were ok in this case. One of their products, but I don't

think it's CLO, has strawberry essence and that might be a problem for

people sensitive to phenols.

Nordic Naturals has a website and lists every product and every

ingredient. Sorry, I can't personally attest to the taste of any of

this.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

Hi! i live in norway and am familiar with cod liver oil. There are a

few nordic naturals that are SCD legal.

The Omega 3 with gelatin caps, the ultimate omega, the omega 3 fish

oil, the ultimate omega liquid and omega 3 liquid. My only concern

is the lemon oil and the rosemary... rosemary is scd legal, but not

everyone will tolerate lemon and rosemary so well.

I do not have so much experience with this, but I have done some

research and believe that Fish Oil is a better source for omega 3s

than cod LIVER oil. The liver is the organ that is responsible for

filtering toxins. The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order to

sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according to

them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is purified

in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using synthetic

vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of removing

the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest CLO

manufacturer in Norway. Thus, I think that the omega 3 fish oil

without the vitamin D and A would be a better bet. Thus avoiding the

D and A which is a bit tricky anyway because a person should get more

Omega 3 in a day than the A and D in the CLO would allow. (maybe you

buy CLO without A and D, but that isnt the common thing here...

people drink tran/clo for the D. Not for the Omega 3.

Just some thoughts. Someone else might have completely different

ideas and evidence. I am basing this on the fact that CLO has been

the staple of diets in Norway for over 150 years... so i hear about

it often.

if you would like to try some samples of the Nordic Naturals: http://

nordicnaturals.com/direct/freesamples.asp

If anyone finds a really good source of Omega 3, please post it to

the board. I havent found any " YIPEE!! " product yet.

-

SCD since april 2007

[Guest guest]

One more thing... I found a great brochure on Nordic Naturals... but

it is in Norwegian. I couldnt find it in English. Wait, i just

found it: http://www.nordicnaturals.com/images/pdfs/

consumerbrochure.pdf

It should help lead you through which product would be best for your

needs. Some are suggested for various different illnesses. In

my experience, fish oils and CLO may not taste good, but it isnt so

bad after awhile. you can also mix them into mashed SCD carrots

right before you eat them (the oil shouldnt get too hot). If taken

by the spooful, the important thing is to drink water right after i

swallow.

-

[Guest guest]

hi,

i have heard that many companies add the synthetic A and D to the CLO

but that is not supposed to be the case with nordic naturals? have

you spoken to someone at the company who says thats not the case? as

far as flavouring goes - it is so pure that there is next to no taste

- so i have no issue getting the one without flavour into my

daughter. i have used the peach and lemon ones prior to scd without

any issues.

many people with autistic children choose the CLO over the fish oil

(or give both) for the high dose of natural vitamin A.

i have heard such great things about the green pastures blue ice CLO

that i recently bought this to try - it is so potent - you only need

to give an 1/8 to a 1/4 tsp compared to 1 tsp of the nordic naturals.

roweena x

Re: Cod Liver Oil?

Posted by: " Ottesen " kosovokelly@... kosovo_kelly

Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:19 am (PST)

Hi! i live in norway and am familiar with cod liver oil. There are a

few nordic naturals that are SCD legal.

The Omega 3 with gelatin caps, the ultimate omega, the omega 3 fish

oil, the ultimate omega liquid and omega 3 liquid. My only concern

is the lemon oil and the rosemary... rosemary is scd legal, but not

everyone will tolerate lemon and rosemary so well.

I do not have so much experience with this, but I have done some

research and believe that Fish Oil is a better source for omega 3s

than cod LIVER oil. The liver is the organ that is responsible for

filtering toxins. The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order to

sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according to

them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is purified

in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using synthetic

vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of removing

the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest CLO

manufacturer in Norway. Thus, I think that the omega 3 fish oil

without the vitamin D and A would be a better bet. Thus avoiding the

D and A which is a bit tricky anyway because a person should get more

Omega 3 in a day than the A and D in the CLO would allow. (maybe you

buy CLO without A and D, but that isnt the common thing here...

people drink tran/clo for the D. Not for the Omega 3.

Just some thoughts. Someone else might have completely different

ideas and evidence. I am basing this on the fact that CLO has been

the staple of diets in Norway for over 150 years... so i hear about

it often.

if you would like to try some samples of the Nordic Naturals: http://

nordicnaturals.com/direct/freesamples.asp

If anyone finds a really good source of Omega 3, please post it to

the board. I havent found any " YIPEE!! " product yet.

-

SCD since april 2007

[Guest guest]

, this is very alarming. Many of our children take CLO for the

natural A and D. Can you provide us with some proof we can see in

writing?

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

> livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order to

> sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according to

> them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is purified

> in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using synthetic

> vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of removing

> the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest CLO

> manufacturer in Norway.

[Guest guest]

My son was not able to tolerate any of the CLO's due to the rosemary extract and

his extremely high sensitivity to salicylates.

Bonita

Re: Cod Liver Oil?

Hi! i live in norway and am familiar with cod liver oil. There are a

few nordic naturals that are SCD legal.

The Omega 3 with gelatin caps, the ultimate omega, the omega 3 fish

oil, the ultimate omega liquid and omega 3 liquid. My only concern

is the lemon oil and the rosemary... rosemary is scd legal, but not

everyone will tolerate lemon and rosemary so well.

I do not have so much experience with this, but I have done some

research and believe that Fish Oil is a better source for omega 3s

than cod LIVER oil. The liver is the organ that is responsible for

filtering toxins. The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order to

sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according to

them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is purified

in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using synthetic

vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of removing

the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest CLO

manufacturer in Norway. Thus, I think that the omega 3 fish oil

without the vitamin D and A would be a better bet. Thus avoiding the

D and A which is a bit tricky anyway because a person should get more

Omega 3 in a day than the A and D in the CLO would allow. (maybe you

buy CLO without A and D, but that isnt the common thing here...

people drink tran/clo for the D. Not for the Omega 3.

Just some thoughts. Someone else might have completely different

ideas and evidence. I am basing this on the fact that CLO has been

the staple of diets in Norway for over 150 years... so i hear about

it often.

if you would like to try some samples of the Nordic Naturals: http://

nordicnaturals.com/direct/freesamples.asp

If anyone finds a really good source of Omega 3, please post it to

the board. I havent found any " YIPEE!! " product yet.

-

SCD since april 2007

[Guest guest]

Hi and ,

<<> , this is very alarming. Many of our children take CLO for

the

> natural A and D. Can you provide us with some proof we can see in

> writing?

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

> The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

> > livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order

to

> > sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according

to

> > them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is

purified

> > in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using

synthetic

> > vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of

removing

> > the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest

CLO

> > manufacturer in Norway.>>

I just got off the phone with a representative for Carlson. She

said that their CLO does not have added vit A or D. The A and D in

it is from the CLO itself. She also said that it is tested for

mercury and other contaminants and it has been determined to be free

of detectable levels of mercury and other contaminants.

I checked the Nordic Naturals site and one of their CLO's has added

viatamin D : The Arctic D. The added vit D is derived from lanolin.

Their other CLO's don't have added vitamin D, but they also don't

have a lot of vit D. (I tried calling them also but their offices

aren't open yet.)

Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

I have heard of the synthetic A and D in the CLO too. On the childapraxia

yahoo group I believe is where I have heard this discussed. We use the

Nordic Naturals without the A and D and just supplement those separately.

All I can truly say about the CLO and omegas, is that within two days of

taking them, my little guys started talking and they have not stopped.

Cindy

Mom to and ASD 4 years old (born at 29 weeks)

is almost recovered (is about to loose dx)and is getting there.

SCD since May 07. (OCD and eye contact immediately improved with SCD ,stools

formed too most of the time (for ) and the kisses started rolling in,

still have not been able to give yogurt but will try again soon ) Omega oils

for 3 months (speech returned!), ALA chelation round 1, GI pro health

supplements for kids on the spectrum since August 07.

Re: Cod Liver Oil?

> , this is very alarming. Many of our children take CLO for the

> natural A and D. Can you provide us with some proof we can see in

> writing?

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

> The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

>> livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order to

>> sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according to

>> them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is purified

>> in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using synthetic

>> vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of removing

>> the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest CLO

>> manufacturer in Norway.

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use Nordic Naturals fish oils but Kirkman Labs CLO. We noticed a

huge difference in my son's side glancing while running when we

switched from a multivitamin with palmitate to one without that

synthetic form of A and began using Kirkman's CLO (sideglancing

disappeared with the addition of natural A -- synthetic A had no

effect). Kim

Here is what it says on www.kirkmanlabs.com about their CLO:

Description

Cod Liver Oil is being used in children's health based on the

findings of Dr. Megson of Richmond, Virginia, to help support

Vitamin A absorption. Cod Liver Oil contains 10% of the cis form of

Vitamin A, as well as " 14 hydroxyretroretinol " . Dr. Megson has found

that these natural forms of Vitamin A in Cod Liver Oil stimulate

retinoid receptors.

It is important when using Cod Liver Oil to be extremely careful in

selecting a source. Many Cod Liver Oils available in traditional

outlets are standardized with synthetic Vitamin A palmitate.

Furthermore, much of the oil available can be contaminated or contain

elevated levels of heavy metals, pesticides or PCB's. It is also

critical to insure that Cod Liver Oil is stable and does not turn

rancid.

Kirkman Laboratories only uses Cod Liver Oil which contains all

natural vitamins A & D. No synthetic standardization has occurred. In

addition, our oil has been vacuum dried and deodorized plus it has

gone through a filtration and distillation process to remove heavy

metals, pesticides and PCB's. A complete analysis of the oil has

verified the absence of these compounds to detectable limits. Results

of these analyses are available on request.

Cod Liver Oil can become rancid over time from exposure to air and

heat by autoxidation. When this occurs, peroxides develop in the oil.

Kirkman adds vitamin E to our Cod Liver Oil to stop any potential

oxidation process. In addition, a peroxide test is performed on the

oil to insure a value which will assure freshness. The European

Pharmacopeia allows up to 10.0 millequivalents/kilogram of peroxides

in Cod Liver Oil to be considered fresh and non-rancid. Kirkman's

product has a typical peroxide value of only 2.9 mEq/kg.

OTHER PROPERTIES OF NATURAL COD LIVER OIL

Fish Oils are generally a source of Omega 3 fatty acids EPA

(eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid). Cod Liver Oil

is no exception. Each ½ teaspoon of Cod Liver Oil contains 250 mg of

EPA and 250 mg of DHA. Each Cod Liver Oil gelcap contains 50 mg each

of EPA and DHA. Omega 3 fatty acids have been shown to be important

in normal development, cardiovascular health, and in neurological

health.

Many of the doctors Kirkman works with recommend supplementation with

Omega 3 fatty acids. A laboratory profile of amino acids is often

done to determine which type of product is required.

FORMS OF KIRKMAN COD LIVER OIL

Kirkman offers Cod Liver Oil in both soft gelatin capsule form and in

a liquid. Both forms have the same purified oil. The liquid is also

available in a flavored version, containing natural lemon oil and

natural lime oil.

Soft gelatin capsules contain 1250 IU Vitamin A

135 IU Vitamin D each.

The liquid contains 2500 IU Vitamin A

250 IU Vitamin D per ½ teaspoon

Dr. Megson's dosage recommendations are:

2-5 years of age: ½ teaspoon daily (or two capsules)

5-10 years of age: ¾ teaspoon daily (or three capsules)

over 10 years old : 1 teaspoon daily (or four capsules)

Ingredients:

Recommended Usage:

As a dietary supplement, take the following daily.

According to Age Capsules

Under 2 years 1 capsule

2-5 years 2 capsules

5-10 years 3 capsules

Over 10 years 4 capsules

>

> I have heard of the synthetic A and D in the CLO too. On the

childapraxia

> yahoo group I believe is where I have heard this discussed. We use

the

> Nordic Naturals without the A and D and just supplement those

separately.

> All I can truly say about the CLO and omegas, is that within two

days of

> taking them, my little guys started talking and they have not

stopped.

>

> Cindy

> Mom to and ASD 4 years old (born at 29 weeks)

> is almost recovered (is about to loose dx)and is

getting there.

> SCD since May 07. (OCD and eye contact immediately improved with

SCD ,stools

> formed too most of the time (for ) and the kisses started

rolling in,

> still have not been able to give yogurt but will try again soon )

Omega oils

> for 3 months (speech returned!), ALA chelation round 1, GI pro

health

> supplements for kids on the spectrum since August 07.

> Re: Cod Liver Oil?

>

>

> > , this is very alarming. Many of our children take CLO for

the

> > natural A and D. Can you provide us with some proof we can see in

> > writing?

> >

> >

> > mom to -12

> > SCD 4/23/04

> >

> > The cod in Norway has loads of mercury in their

> >> livers. Therefore the companies have to purify the CLO in order

to

> >> sell it. This doesn't hurt the quality of the Omega 3 according

to

> >> them. From what I gather, most pharmaceutical grade CLO is

purified

> >> in this manner... BUT, in Norway at leat they end up using

synthetic

> >> vitamin D and A because it gets destroyed in the process of

removing

> >> the mercury. I have heard this from the source... the largest

CLO

> >> manufacturer in Norway.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> > websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was really alarmed too when I found out about the synthetic

vitamins in the CLO every Norwegian takes... its the company

" Møllers. " I wasnt sure what sources or methods the other companies

in Norway used. I read through nordic naturals website today, and it

would seem, as yall have said, that their product is really pure! I

am REALLY excited about that!! In fact, I have already ordered two

Ultimate Omegas for us! I didnt mean to alarm anyone, as I said in

the post, I dont know that much about omega 3s... But our naturopath

told us to stay away from that company (her friend talked to a woman

who worked for that company and got the details about their purifying

processes).

So, none of what I found out really applies to you guys unless you

are visiting norway and want to save some money by buying the cheap

CLO in all the grocery stores. The proof of nordic naturals is

really in how well it works for all of you! Thanks for the tips! so

good to have " what omega 3 to buy " all figured out!!

-

[Guest guest]

Oh, found a bit more on the refining process...

overview of CLO:

http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/GarryGordon/KarlLorenResearch/

p20.html

Halfway down this page, this guy goes over the purification process

of some of the CLO manufacturing facilities in Norway. The good news

is that some facilities actually take the time to add back the

natural vitamins to the CLO. I am assuming that that is what

Carlsons, Nordic Naturals and the others you guys mentioned do.

really glad it can be done! just wish it were more cost effective for

everyone to do it that way.

http://community.livesuperfoods.com/?cat=43

-

[Guest guest]

I apologize coming in late and uneducated ( am soooo new to this and soooo

overwhelmed) - but what are CLO's? My twin boys take Nordic Natural Cod Liver

Oil capsules (after reading Cindy's post - I went to the refrigerator and

took out the bottle and noted on the label the cod Liver oil supplement contain

260-600 I.U. of Vit. A and 1 - 8 I.U. Vitamin D.

Please advise what cod liver oil and Vit. A/D supplements I should use and

what CLO is..

sorry for the dumb Q's

Cherie

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[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry!! I just figured out the CLO's are Cod Liver Oil..please

disregard my last email as I don't want it's Dumbness posted!!!

Cherie

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[Guest guest]

Too late!

Just remembered there was a time when I didn't know what CLO was

either. Sorry about that.

Cod liver oil is not required for SCD. Nordic Naturals capsules are

legal for those who want to use them.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

I do not know what I'd do without this group and Patti my counselor - when

it all seems so overwhelming - there is this fabulous network that keeps me

going!

thanks to all for answering all my dumb questions - I'll get the hang of it

eventually!..and now I know what CLO is! Huge!!! :-)

Regards!

Cherie

In a message dated 10/18/2007 1:38:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

julie46250@... writes:

>

> So Nordic Naturals CLO capsules are legal but the liquid is not? Is

> that what you are saying?

No, I'm sorry, that is not what I am saying. Cherie wanted to know

what CLO to use and she was already using the capsules. I wanted her

to know that she didn't *have* to use any for SCD, but that the kind

she was using was fine. The Nordic Naturals liquid is also fine.

I hope that's less confusing.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

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[Guest guest]

So Nordic Naturals CLO capsules are legal but the liquid is not? Is

that what you are saying?

>

> Too late!

>

> Just remembered there was a time when I didn't know what CLO was

> either. Sorry about that.

>

> Cod liver oil is not required for SCD. Nordic Naturals capsules are

> legal for those who want to use them.

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

>

> So Nordic Naturals CLO capsules are legal but the liquid is not? Is

> that what you are saying?

No, I'm sorry, that is not what I am saying. Cherie wanted to know

what CLO to use and she was already using the capsules. I wanted her

to know that she didn't *have* to use any for SCD, but that the kind

she was using was fine. The Nordic Naturals liquid is also fine.

I hope that's less confusing.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04