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Hi,

I don't really know where to start. My son is 10 years old dx with

ADHD for 3 years and he is on Ritalin. He has always had carb

cravings which I didn't like or understand. Also he is very

particular about what he will eat. We started our son on gfcf about

2 months ago. And through self educating I realized he also needs to

be off rice and potatos. (He craves those foods) To me the next

step was SCD. I have gotten the book, read what I could, and feel

totally lost. I don't understand about the dairy, in the book it

says for parents of autistic children a decision needs to be made to

implement the diet with or without the dairy??? My son had his blood

and urine checked. His IgG came back high for milk. I don't think he

can handle dairy products right now. Also in the book it talked alot

about diarrhea, my son is ten years old I don't know what his poop

looks like, but he says he does not have diarrhea. What does that

mean. My son is on lots of supplements from his DAN doctor. Do

your childrens take supplements? Also what about the modified diet by

Pamela Ferro written about in the book, it elimimates the use of

dairy for 3-6 months. I did not see a web site for that, how do I

find out more info? I still don't really understand the intro diet???

Thanks

Patty mom to Josh 10, adhd, beginning scd

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Hi my name is Tabaitha My sons 5 and he's adhd and

also craves things. He's been on the intro diet for

scd since sun. afternoon. Its hard cause he wants all

the stuff he can nolonger have. But we just keep going

forward everyday I wake up and say just alittle while

longer and I tell him mommys trying to fix the inside

of your tummy it helps alittle. I know they say you

need to do intro but dont have to. But its better for

them if you do. My sons school is so helpful they keep

an eye on him so he doesnt eat anything he's not

suppose to and they let me know if he's acting out.

Today I love that school they seem to be helping as

much as they can. I do know from person feelings I

didnt want to put him on drugs I wanted to do

something that would hopefully cure him not just get

him through the days. But thats my personal feelings

on that. If you'd like to chat I'm hear anytime. Tab

--- Patty wrote:

> Hi,

> I don't really know where to start. My son is 10

> years old dx with

> ADHD for 3 years and he is on Ritalin. He has

> always had carb

> cravings which I didn't like or understand. Also he

> is very

> particular about what he will eat. We started our

> son on gfcf about

> 2 months ago. And through self educating I realized

> he also needs to

> be off rice and potatos. (He craves those foods)

> To me the next

> step was SCD. I have gotten the book, read what I

> could, and feel

> totally lost. I don't understand about the dairy,

> in the book it

> says for parents of autistic children a decision

> needs to be made to

> implement the diet with or without the dairy??? My

> son had his blood

> and urine checked. His IgG came back high for milk.

> I don't think he

> can handle dairy products right now. Also in the

> book it talked alot

> about diarrhea, my son is ten years old I don't know

> what his poop

> looks like, but he says he does not have diarrhea.

> What does that

> mean. My son is on lots of supplements from his DAN

> doctor. Do

> your childrens take supplements? Also what about the

> modified diet by

> Pamela Ferro written about in the book, it

> elimimates the use of

> dairy for 3-6 months. I did not see a web site for

> that, how do I

> find out more info? I still don't really understand

> the intro diet???

> Thanks

> Patty mom to Josh 10, adhd, beginning scd

>

>

>

Tabaitha Steward

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi, Patty,

I don't understand about the dairy, in the book it

> says for parents of autistic children a decision needs to be made

to

> implement the diet with or without the dairy???

Right! Believe it or not, some will try dairy early on. But as Pam

Ferro and others advise, it is a good idea to wait 3-4 months before

trying any dairy, so that you know for sure that the initial die-

off/body adjustment to SCD is not a reaction to dairy. Although some

people do SCD completely dairy-free, we know that many who were once

CF can tolerate goat yogurt and goat cheese. (Some even do cow

dairy.) The yogurt and cheese-making processes make a change in the

casein protein. The probiotics in the yogurt are wonderful for

healing the gut; better than probiotics in capsules. And, speaking

for my son, it was such a treat to eat goat cheese instead of the

strange articial cheeses we tried on GFCF.

Also in the book it talked alot

> about diarrhea, my son is ten years old I don't know what his poop

> looks like, but he says he does not have diarrhea. What does that

> mean.

Not everyone starts this diet having diarrhea. Some are

constipated. Some don't think they have BM issues, but need

behavioral improvement. My son was 8 when I started monitoring his

poops. I didn't know what they looked like, but I sure knew he was

getting into trouble at school for spending too much time in the

restroom. Looking at the poops helps a lot with seeing if he is

tolerating a particular food. Maybe you can ask him to describe what

the poops look like to you, if you don't want to invade his privacy.

My son is on lots of supplements from his DAN doctor. Do

> your childrens take supplements?

Lots for our kids are on supplements. Be sure they are legal. Check

the lists on www.pecanbread.com

Also what about the modified diet by

> Pamela Ferro written about in the book, it elimimates the use of

> dairy for 3-6 months. I did not see a web site for that, how do I

> find out more info?

All the advice about starting out is on the pecanbread.com website.

It deals with not having dairy early on.

I still don't really understand the intro diet???

The intro gives you a jump-start. It kills off a lot of bad gut

bugs. It is made up of foods that are easy to digest for most

people. Here is a list of what you can eat on the intro diet:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro

Please study all parts of the www.pecanbread.com website. I really

think it will help explain all your questions, but if not, we are

here to help.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

> Thanks

> Patty mom to Josh 10, adhd, beginning scd

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

We did GFCF, to begin with too, my son is nearly 4 now and he has

formed stools too, guess we are lucky, but I dont know what it means

either. He began craving wheat especially and ate enormous amounts

of Wheat Bix and bread, and when he was really little and having

bottles he craved dairy heaps more than a normal child would, earlier

this year we went to the DAN doctor and went off all gluten,dairy,

corn and soy. After that he craved potatoes, rice and bananas and

apples and grapes.

I then took out sugar other than that in pears, and yeast because I

thought it might ease up his ADHD and horrid temper. We had bloods

done recently for the first time and my son being sensitve to dairy

was advised to stay off it entirely (goat milk included), for about 6

months into SCD. We have tons off supplements, about 10 of them, and

do epsom salts baths nearly every day. Have you looked at

pecanbread.com - its got a list of food for the intro diet that is

easy to follow and if you have been having dairy beforehand you need

to do it for more than 2 days - ask the other listmates with more

experience on this one as we had been off dairy for 6 months we only

did it for two days - now I made a mistake by giving pear juice

instead of juiced pears, and we will need to do another 2 days of

intro again but I have decided we will do that in a few weeks when we

have settled into things a bit better. The next phase of the diet we

need to adhere to for 3 months and thats as far as I know so far.

But the pecanbread.com is a great site - I have had to read some of

it about 3 or 4 times to take it all in but the list of foods is

terrific. Hope this helps - Kylie

>

> Hi,

> I don't really know where to start. My son is 10 years old dx with

> ADHD for 3 years and he is on Ritalin. He has always had carb

> cravings which I didn't like or understand. Also he is very

> particular about what he will eat. We started our son on gfcf

about

> 2 months ago. And through self educating I realized he also needs

to

> be off rice and potatos. (He craves those foods) To me the next

> step was SCD. I have gotten the book, read what I could, and feel

> totally lost. I don't understand about the dairy, in the book it

> says for parents of autistic children a decision needs to be made

to

> implement the diet with or without the dairy??? My son had his

blood

> and urine checked. His IgG came back high for milk. I don't think

he

> can handle dairy products right now. Also in the book it talked

alot

> about diarrhea, my son is ten years old I don't know what his poop

> looks like, but he says he does not have diarrhea. What does that

> mean. My son is on lots of supplements from his DAN doctor. Do

> your childrens take supplements? Also what about the modified diet

by

> Pamela Ferro written about in the book, it elimimates the use of

> dairy for 3-6 months. I did not see a web site for that, how do I

> find out more info? I still don't really understand the intro

diet???

> Thanks

> Patty mom to Josh 10, adhd, beginning scd

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

<<<< Also in the book it talked alot

> about diarrhea, my son is ten years old I don't know what his poop

> looks like, but he says he does not have diarrhea. What does that

> mean.>>>>

The phone rang and I forgot to add this:

If he doesn't want to talk about his poop with you you could show him

this chart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Stool_Scale

and he could give you a number instead of having to describe the

stool. Or he could write the number down on a chart.

Sheila