Question regarding protein powder shakes

[Guest guest]

Question: Does anyone in the group consume any of the numerous

protein

powder supplements ie; whey protein isolates or soy protein isolates?

Since I was diagnosed with this disease my diet has been lacking in

protein as both meat and most legumes give me pancreatic problems. I

do eat fish either rainbow trout or sockeye salmon preferable wild

whenever possible at least twice a week, however these can sometimes

give me problems as well. (All fish is steamed to ensure ultra low

fat preparation for personal consumption)But back to protein powders

are they a good source of protein for individuals with cp. I know

that some of you consume the " ensure " products from time to time,

however I cannot stomach the stuff and they contain more fat than

the protein powders. I am currently obtaining my fats from flax seed

oil and dricell epa (an essential fatty acid formula powder, based

from fish oils) which I purchase from my naturopath doctor and mix

with a green food supplement, fresh fruit juice and mixed organic

berries for a morning breakfast boosting smoothy. I have very little

problems with this combination so far. So I am interested in making

my own " ensure " protein drink however more organically so I can get

the benefits from the antioxidants in the fruits and veggies I put

into it. So, long story short are whey protein isolates or soy

protein isolates ok source of protein to use to avoid painful

digestive/pancreatic problems vs. consuming the traditional sources

meat or legumes. Thanks so much, peace Rich.

[Guest guest]

Hi Rich. Soy protein is much easier for our bodies to absorb as it is

a less complicated protein molecule then animal or diary proteins. I

am not familiar with whey proteins and have never taken them. I drank

several slimfast shakes a day as its protein source is soy. I also

took an amino acid vitamin supplement; along with many other vitamin

and mineral supplements. Do you take any type of enzymes to help with

absorbtion? Also even tho salmon and rainbow trout are excellent food

sources they are among the more oily fish and that may be why it is

bothering you sometimes. You may want to consider some of the deep

water fish such as grouper, snapper, sea bass or tuna as they tend to

be leaner. Colder water fish such as the rainbow trout tend to put on

a layer of blubber to help insulate them. It is the good fat to

consume but with cp one could have difficulties breaking down most

forms of fat.

I hope this helps.

Warmly,

(SC)

[Guest guest]

Thanks, so much for the information. I love this group. Peace and god bless.

Rich

Re: Question regarding protein powder shakes

Hi Rich. Soy protein is much easier for our bodies to absorb as it is

a less complicated protein molecule then animal or diary proteins. I

am not familiar with whey proteins and have never taken them. I drank

several slimfast shakes a day as its protein source is soy. I also

took an amino acid vitamin supplement; along with many other vitamin

and mineral supplements. Do you take any type of enzymes to help with

absorbtion? Also even tho salmon and rainbow trout are excellent food

sources they are among the more oily fish and that may be why it is

bothering you sometimes. You may want to consider some of the deep

water fish such as grouper, snapper, sea bass or tuna as they tend to

be leaner. Colder water fish such as the rainbow trout tend to put on

a layer of blubber to help insulate them. It is the good fat to

consume but with cp one could have difficulties breaking down most

forms of fat.

I hope this helps.

Warmly,

(SC)

[Guest guest]

Rich,

I used whey protein isolates powder, mixed into my food and beverages,

for a month or more when I was severely undernourished. The

nutritionist at the hospital had recommended the whey as opposed to

the soy, claiming that the whey powder was easier to digest and caused

fewer allergies.

It turned out that my severe weight loss and nutritional problems were

being caused by undiagnosed symtoms leading up to diabetic

ketoacidosis, not a mysterious malnutrition problem, so I didn't have

the need to continue using the powder after the ketoacidosis. It

seemed to be working well, while I took it.

With love, hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

SC & SE Regional Rep.

PAI

Note: All comments or advice are based on personal experience or

opinion only, and should not be substituted for professional medical

consultation.

[Guest guest]

The newest research I have read says that there is definitely a

connect between babies that drank soy formula and the developement

of asthma and severe allergies while growing up. I can attest first

hand to that one, my daughter now 21 had to have soy formula because

she had a rash ( I was not a nurse at the time) the Dr. changed her

over to soy formula, that child developed asthma at the age of 6

then she has such severe allergies she was sick all the time. I had

to encase her bed and pillow in a plastic cover and use special

filters over her heat ducts, and she also developed rheumatoid

arthritis. After reading the research I came to the same conclusion,

the soy formula did it. I would not drink it, use the whey. I now

there are alot out there who would debate this but personally I have

been mixing goats milk and cows milk together now for about 3

months, it does take some getting used too, but the goats milk is

more digestible for people, it is higher in fat, but it is a more

digestible fat than cows milk. I have gotten alot of my information

from The Makers Diet. I would recommend that everyone visit the site

and click to see Dr. Rubins before and after picture, he did not

have pancreatitis, but he did have crohns disease so bad that he saw

70 Drs. and almost died, there are pictures on the web site, I have

the book and can tell you that this diet has kept me from having

such profound potassium loss and kept me from having protein

malnutrition. I have nothing to gain from this. I would suggest that

no one ever pay retail for a book visit www.half.com and you can buy

used or new for a little more. I paid $2.99 for my copy, my family

Dr. gave me his and I wanted my own. Visit the site for the pictures

at www.makersdiet.com and see for yourself.

Atwell LPN

> Rich,

>

> I used whey protein isolates powder, mixed into my food and

beverages,

> for a month or more when I was severely undernourished. The

> nutritionist at the hospital had recommended the whey as opposed to

> the soy, claiming that the whey powder was easier to digest and

caused

> fewer allergies.

>

> It turned out that my severe weight loss and nutritional problems

were

> being caused by undiagnosed symtoms leading up to diabetic

> ketoacidosis, not a mysterious malnutrition problem, so I didn't

have

> the need to continue using the powder after the ketoacidosis. It

> seemed to be working well, while I took it.

>

> With love, hope and prayers,

> Heidi

>

> Heidi H. Griffeth

> SC & SE Regional Rep.

> PAI

>

> Note: All comments or advice are based on personal experience or

> opinion only, and should not be substituted for professional

medical

> consultation.