Day 7 but have a few questions

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son (5, ASD) just completed day 7 of SCD. I have had a few

questions going through my mind for the past few days and was hoping

someone here could help.

First, my son had no stools for 2 days (on day 3&4 of SCD), then

after that he has had formed stools (which he had previously anyway)

that are really dark green (looked black, but was green when I wiped

his bottom). Day 7 was the 3rd day for dark green stools. We

started out the SCD trying the juice that Stan Kurtz talks about with

pears, apples, and spinach in the Jack LaLanne juicer, but my son

didn't want to drink it (Day 1). So I found some organic 100% grape

juice from Trader Joes and gave that to him for days 2,3,4,&5. But I

thought that the grape juice may be the cause for the dark stools

since he has had probably 16 oz. a day. On days 6&7, I have started

back the pear, apple, spinach juice and he is taking it a little bit

better now. And on day 7 I gave him green beans for the first time.

Any clues though why it is so green? Should I be concerned?

Also, I was wondering about the length of time for cooking the

veggies and fruits. Does it matter how long we boil them for? Can I

steam cook the veggies and then use the water for steaming in the

food processor to puree? My son actually prefers his food in puree

form as he has many texture issues with food. So I use to steam the

veggies before and puree for him prior to this diet. I have never

done fruit this way, so this is a first. I have boiled the apples,

pears and now peaches since I wasn't sure about steaming those. Is

Trader Joe's " Organic Unsweetened Applesauce " SCD legal? The

ingredients are Organic Apples from fresh, whole, triple washed, ripe

organic apples. I hope so because this would save me some time on

cooking the applesauce from scratch.

Sorry for so many questions here. This has been an exhausting week

for me with having to learn how to re-think cooking. And my poor

little guy keeps asking me for cookie, chip, and raisin. He is asking

for it less though as we go through the week. The first few days were

difficult and it didnt' help that we were inside and it was hot here

(So. Cal) with the fires all around and smoke filled the air. Ugh.

(But very thankful to have a home to sit in and be hot in!) I am

determined to give this diet a shot for a least a month and see if we

notice some improvments over the GF/CF diet.

Thanks for any advice :-)

Mom to (5, ASD) SCD 7 days

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

So glad to hear the fires have spared you.

Did you choose to not do the intro diet for any particular reason?

The best results on SCD happen when you start with the intro diet and

then add one food at a time slowly, checking for reactions. (I can

see that you did not do the intro diet from the foods you say you

gave your son on Day 1.)

The Trader Joe's grape juice is not legal. Very few commercial

juices are legal. There is a list of legal juices at

http://pecanbread.com/new/legalfoods1.html

All juices must be diluted at least 50% with water.

So if you plan a one-month trial of SCD please do not count the 7

days that have just gone by since you were using an illegal product.

Here is a link to the intro diet:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/begindiet1.html

The odd stool color is very common at the beginning of the diet as

the bad bugs die and the body makes adjustments. The color may also

have something to do with the grape and the spinach, especially if

you didn't dilute.

There is not a certain length of time to boil things, except carrots

(4 hours). You want the fruits and vegetables to be quite soft. We

say " well-cooked " . Steaming is fine. You can use the water to puree.

The Trader Joe's applesauce is not legal. You have to make your own

applesauce. There are very few commercial products that are SCD

legal.

mom to -12

SCd 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

,

Are you 100% sure that the Trader Joe's brand of Organic Grape Juice

(not from concentrate) is not legal? The ingredients listed on the

glass jar of the juice reads: Organic Concord Grapes. The front

label reads " Trader Joe's Organic Pasteurized 100% Juice Concord

Grape Juice. Made from fresh pressed Organic Concord Grapes " . Is it

because the juice was pasteuriezed? I was trying to take the

principals from the BTVC book and apply them in making my decision.

My regular grocery store does not sell the Welch's brand of 100%

grape juice. I was only able to find the " cocktail " versions, which

of course also are concentrate. So the Trader Joe's brand was the

closest thing that I could find. I just really want to make sure

that this juice is absolutely illeagal before schleping off to yet

another grocery store to find food for my kiddo.

Also, I have noticed that the link that you gave me for the intro

diet is a bit different than the intro diet described on BTVC web

site.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/the_intro_diet

2.htm

Can you explain why the difference?

>

> Hi, ,

> So glad to hear the fires have spared you.

>

> Did you choose to not do the intro diet for any particular reason?

> The best results on SCD happen when you start with the intro diet

and

> then add one food at a time slowly, checking for reactions. (I can

> see that you did not do the intro diet from the foods you say you

> gave your son on Day 1.)

> The Trader Joe's grape juice is not legal. Very few commercial

> juices are legal. There is a list of legal juices at

> http://pecanbread.com/new/legalfoods1.html

>

> All juices must be diluted at least 50% with water.

>

> So if you plan a one-month trial of SCD please do not count the 7

> days that have just gone by since you were using an illegal

product.

>

> Here is a link to the intro diet:

> http://www.pecanbread.com/new/begindiet1.html

>

> The odd stool color is very common at the beginning of the diet as

> the bad bugs die and the body makes adjustments. The color may

also

> have something to do with the grape and the spinach, especially if

> you didn't dilute.

>

> There is not a certain length of time to boil things, except

carrots

> (4 hours). You want the fruits and vegetables to be quite soft.

We

> say " well-cooked " . Steaming is fine. You can use the water to

puree.

>

> The Trader Joe's applesauce is not legal. You have to make your

own

> applesauce. There are very few commercial products that are SCD

> legal.

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCd 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

Unfortunately, we cannot go by what is on the label. There is

something called the " 2% rule " . Companies don't have to put anything

on the label that is less than 2% of the contents. Since farming is

weather dependent, not every batch of grapes is as sweet as every

other and it's legal for companies to add some sugar or corn syrup to

keep the flavor of their juice consistent and as long as the sugar or

corn syrup is less than 2% of the contents, they don't have to list

it. The manufacturing methods of the small number of legal juices

were personally checked into by Elaine. She was satisfied that the

methods used by these few companies would produce juice that was SCd

legal.

Undoubtedly there are other companies who do as well, but we don't

know which ones they are. You can consider an additional product

legal *if* you are able to get a hand-written letter on company

letterhead that states what the ingredients are and that they do not

ever add anything else.

The intro diet on www.pecanbread.com is different from the intro diet

on the BTVC site because it was tailored to kids on the autism

spectrum. What that means is that all dairy has been removed from

the pecanbread version of the intro diet and that many moms have put

their heads together and created many food variations (such as

chicken pancakes) that use only original intro diet foods, but are

combined in new ways and may be more palatable to kids kids on the

spectrum.

mom to -12

SCd 4/23/04