Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 My daughter is GFCF for a year now. I want to start the diet but I have a few questions: Is the dry cottage cheese GFCF? Is the yoghurt GFCF? Are the legal cheeses GFCF? If these things are not GFCF, then how can I do the intro to diet in the beginning? And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to do the intro to diet? And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to cook her fruit? Also, how do you cook the fruit? And after it is cooked, can I cool it so it seems the same as before I cooked it? As you can see, I am not much of a cook, but I really want to try this diet. Thanks, Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Hi Adrienne, <<<<My daughter is GFCF for a year now. I want to start the diet but I > have a few questions: > > Is the dry cottage cheese GFCF?>>> It is Gluten free, lactose free but does have casein <<<< Is the yoghurt GFCF?>>>> Yes, it is gluten free but it does have casein. The casein however is in a two dimensional shape. " The Process of Making Yogurt Changes the Casein From Elaine Gottschall: When we make yogurt and the pH falls to about 4.5 rather than 7.1-2 (as in fluid milk), the proteins are denatured which means that because of the acidity, the proteins lose their 3 dimensional structure (sterochemistry) which would be the reason allergists worry about casein. In yogurt and in the natural cheeses, the casein is denatured into a two-dimensional structure which would be less likely to cause allergic reactions. " <<<<Are the legal cheeses GFCF?>>>> The legal cheeses are the same (GFCF-wise) as the yogurt (except you don't get the beneficial bacteria). These sections will help explain this further: http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goatcow http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goatbook http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goattestimonial <<<<If these things are not GFCF, then how can I do the intro to diet in > the beginning?>>>>> There is a dairy free version of the intro diet at http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro <<<And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to do the > intro to diet?>>> You don't have to but we have noted faster results with children who are able to do the intro. If you decide to do it you need only do it for 2-3 days since she doesn't have diarrhea. <<<< And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to cook > her fruit?>>>> No, you don't have to but if you aren't seen any progress (by just using all SCD foods) you may want to go back try the intro and gradually add more and more complex foods. This means for example: starting with the intro then introducing peeled cooked fruit, baked fruit with peels, raw fruit and finally dried fruit. <<<<Also, how do you cook the fruit?>>>> It depends on the severity of symproms, what foods are tolerates and the type of fruit. You can make applesauce with apples, homemade pearsauce, fruit compote etc... <<<< And after it is cooked, can I cool it > so it seems the same as before I cooked it?>>>> Yes. > > As you can see, I am not much of a cook, but I really want to try this > diet. Thanks, > > Adrienne>> What fruits specifically do you want to know how to cook? Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of Em and Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Sheila- Thank you so much for your response. The fruit my daughter likes to eat are apples, grapes and strawberries. She likes apples, but she doesn't really like applesauce. So, what I want to know is, how do I cook these fruits and for how long? Thanks, Adrienne > > Hi Adrienne, > > <<<<My daughter is GFCF for a year now. I want to start the diet but > I > have a few questions: > > > > Is the dry cottage cheese GFCF?>>> > > It is Gluten free, lactose free but does have casein > > > <<<< Is the yoghurt GFCF?>>>> > > Yes, it is gluten free but it does have casein. The casein however > is in a two dimensional shape. > > " The Process of Making Yogurt Changes the Casein > From Elaine Gottschall: > > When we make yogurt and the pH falls to about 4.5 rather than 7.1-2 > (as in fluid milk), the proteins are denatured which means that > because of the acidity, the proteins lose their 3 dimensional > structure (sterochemistry) which would be the reason allergists worry > about casein. In yogurt and in the natural cheeses, the casein is > denatured into a two-dimensional structure which would be less likely > to cause allergic reactions. " > > > <<<<Are the legal cheeses GFCF?>>>> > > The legal cheeses are the same (GFCF-wise) as the yogurt (except you > don't get the beneficial bacteria). > > These sections will help explain this further: > http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goatcow > http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goatbook > http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html#goattestimonial > > <<<<If these things are not GFCF, then how can I do the intro to diet > in > the beginning?>>>>> > > There is a dairy free version of the intro diet at > http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#intro > > > <<<And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to do the > > intro to diet?>>> > > You don't have to but we have noted faster results with children who > are able to do the intro. If you decide to do it you need only do > it for 2-3 days since she doesn't have diarrhea. > > > <<<< And, if she does not have diarrhea, do I have to cook > her > fruit?>>>> > > No, you don't have to but if you aren't seen any progress (by just > using all SCD foods) you may want to go back try the intro and > gradually add more and more complex foods. This means for example: > starting with the intro then introducing peeled cooked fruit, baked > fruit with peels, raw fruit and finally dried fruit. > > <<<<Also, how do you cook the fruit?>>>> > > It depends on the severity of symproms, what foods are tolerates and > the type of fruit. You can make applesauce with apples, homemade > pearsauce, fruit compote etc... > > <<<< And after it is cooked, can I cool it > so it seems the same as > before I cooked it?>>>> > > Yes. > > > > > As you can see, I am not much of a cook, but I really want to try > this > > diet. Thanks, > > > > Adrienne>> > > What fruits specifically do you want to know how to cook? > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of Em and Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hi, Adrienne, Cooked fruit is going to seem very different to your daughter because of the texture. Personally I would not try grapes or strawberries early in the diet because you would have to peel the grapes and remove the seeds from the strawberries. Fruit can be steamed to cook it. Do you have a steamer basket? You put water in the bottom of the pan and put the peeled, seeded fruit in the steamer basket and allow the water to simmer and the steam comes up and cooks the fruit. It will get quite soft and be easy to digest. The most delicious way to make cooked fruit is to bake it. Please look for the baked fruit recipe here: http://www.pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html *But* the baked fruit is more firm than steamed fruit, so at first I would start with the steamed because I feel it's easier to digest. mom to -12 SCd 4/23/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hi Adrienne, <<<<> Sheila- > > Thank you so much for your response. The fruit my daughter likes to eat are apples, grapes and strawberries. She likes apples, but she > doesn't really like applesauce. So, what I want to know is, how do I > cook these fruits and for how long?>> > Thanks, > > Adrienne>>> You can try baking the apples. Core the apples and bake at 350° for about 15 minutes. Check on the apples. The length of time depends on the size and variety. If you leave the skins on let her scoop out the baked inside of the apple and discard the skins after. If she tolerates it you can sprinkle with ground cinnamon before baking and/or some legal nuts (pecans, walnuts etc..) Grapes are harder to digest because of the skins. My son loved them but they held back his progress until I started to peel them. He didn't like to many after that because it took me so long to peel them. Since then someone posted that freezing them first makes the skins easier to remove if you have to cook them in boiling water. (I haven't tried this though) Strawberries can be simmered until soft in a pan with a small amount of water. If honey is tolerated you can add a little honey to sweeten and make a syrup with the cooking water. Some people who don't toletate them cook have to run pureed strawberries through a food mill to remove some of the skin including the seeds. This makes a jam. This variations are a bit more advanced than just say homemade applesauce so using them will depend on your daughter's symptoms. Even if she has to avoid this type of cooked fruit and use more basic (like the applesauce) for a period as she heals more variety and manners of prepartion will be open to her Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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