SCD DIET AND YEAST

[Guest guest]

Hi!

My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made dramatic

improvements in attention and focus. Much of his stimming went away

as well.

Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast is

AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12 hours

away from Diflucan)

Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things, mouthing

things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

I have read everything there is to read on this web site about yeast.

I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on a lyme

website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he is on

antibiotics.

Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in feeding

yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts are

supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to mold.

He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5 pounds

after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.

I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this point is

to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and to

starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to help

the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we are

starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a problem.

We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast AND bad

bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this calms

down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from his

diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.

He loved raw veggies before we started this, and now he will hardly

eat veggies at all (although I just revived squash fries last night

and he ate them ut of house and home. He was refusing them for a

while there.)

I know that much of this is a hump b/c of the lyme, because the gains

he has made on this diet have been tremendous. I probably just need

a pep talk.

It is just extremely frustrating. He WAS an awesome eater, and now

he is incredibly picky and won't even eat his old favorites (like

certain meats) that were SCD legal even before we started all of this.

I bought 4 SCD cookbooks and make a lot of the recipes I see on-line.

Also, his diaper had formed stool 7 times in a row since week 2 and

them went back to slop WAY before this antibiotic thing, and we have

never been able to get the good poops back.

Thanks for reading. We are definitely sticking this out until after

the antibiotics are done, but God knows whether or ot he will be able

to get rid of this lyme with all of his other immune system issues.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

MS Mom to Nick age 5 ASD/ SCD 10 weeks.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I'm sorry I can't be more of a beacon of light as we have the same issues with

our son. Although not confirmed through testing, I suspect a yeast problem. He

is a very picky eater and will only eat 3-4 foods. Also like your son, our son

ate better before going on the diet, veggies, etc.. Now he is down to apples,

almond flour muffins, grilled cheese sandwiches (we have moved on to dairy with

no problems) and SCD legal ice cream made from egg whites. I just wanted to let

you know that we also have had a weight yo-yo with different foods being refused

on this diet. The thing that finally got the meat to stick to his bones was the

ice cream I mentioned. It's the recipe from the Healing Little Tummies cookbook.

I took the recipe and added ground up chicken and he can't taste it. I have been

warned by my SCD consultant that raw egg whites can lead to something called a

biotin deficiency. Unfortunately, I felt I had no choice but to continue to feed

him the ice cream because

the benefits far outweighed any negative things. Just hang in there. Even

though it seems frustrating, to me there is no alternative. Have you tried the

yogurt. I would greatly recommend paying the extra for an SCD consultant. YOu

can email me directly off my website for a personal recommendation. Thanks and

good luck.

www.healingelijah.com

mrsstanko wrote:

Hi!

My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made dramatic

improvements in attention and focus. Much of his stimming went away

as well.

Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast is

AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12 hours

away from Diflucan)

Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things, mouthing

things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

I have read everything there is to read on this web site about yeast.

I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on a lyme

website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he is on

antibiotics.

Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in feeding

yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts are

supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to mold.

He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5 pounds

after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.

I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this point is

to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and to

starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to help

the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we are

starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a problem.

We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast AND bad

bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this calms

down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from his

diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.

He loved raw veggies before we started this, and now he will hardly

eat veggies at all (although I just revived squash fries last night

and he ate them ut of house and home. He was refusing them for a

while there.)

I know that much of this is a hump b/c of the lyme, because the gains

he has made on this diet have been tremendous. I probably just need

a pep talk.

It is just extremely frustrating. He WAS an awesome eater, and now

he is incredibly picky and won't even eat his old favorites (like

certain meats) that were SCD legal even before we started all of this.

I bought 4 SCD cookbooks and make a lot of the recipes I see on-line.

Also, his diaper had formed stool 7 times in a row since week 2 and

them went back to slop WAY before this antibiotic thing, and we have

never been able to get the good poops back.

Thanks for reading. We are definitely sticking this out until after

the antibiotics are done, but God knows whether or ot he will be able

to get rid of this lyme with all of his other immune system issues.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

MS Mom to Nick age 5 ASD/ SCD 10 weeks.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Also, I forgot to add that when we eliminated bananas, Elijah seemed to

benefit. He still eats apples.

www.healingelijah.com

mrsstanko wrote:

Hi!

My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made dramatic

improvements in attention and focus. Much of his stimming went away

as well.

Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast is

AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12 hours

away from Diflucan)

Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things, mouthing

things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

I have read everything there is to read on this web site about yeast.

I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on a lyme

website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he is on

antibiotics.

Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in feeding

yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts are

supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to mold.

He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5 pounds

after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.

I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this point is

to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and to

starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to help

the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we are

starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a problem.

We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast AND bad

bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this calms

down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from his

diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.

He loved raw veggies before we started this, and now he will hardly

eat veggies at all (although I just revived squash fries last night

and he ate them ut of house and home. He was refusing them for a

while there.)

I know that much of this is a hump b/c of the lyme, because the gains

he has made on this diet have been tremendous. I probably just need

a pep talk.

It is just extremely frustrating. He WAS an awesome eater, and now

he is incredibly picky and won't even eat his old favorites (like

certain meats) that were SCD legal even before we started all of this.

I bought 4 SCD cookbooks and make a lot of the recipes I see on-line.

Also, his diaper had formed stool 7 times in a row since week 2 and

them went back to slop WAY before this antibiotic thing, and we have

never been able to get the good poops back.

Thanks for reading. We are definitely sticking this out until after

the antibiotics are done, but God knows whether or ot he will be able

to get rid of this lyme with all of his other immune system issues.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

MS Mom to Nick age 5 ASD/ SCD 10 weeks.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi MS,

<<<<My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made

dramatic > improvements in attention and focus. Much of his stimming

went away > as well.

>

> Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast is

> AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12 hours

> away from Diflucan)>>>>

How much longer will he be on he antibiotics?

<<<<<

> Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things, mouthing

> things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

>

> I have read everything there is to read on this web site about

yeast.>>>>>

Have you seen http://pecanbread.com/new/yeast.html and

http://pecanbread.com/new/yeastsheila.html

<<<<<I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on a

lyme website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he is on

> antibiotics.

>

> Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in feeding

> yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts are

> supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to

mold.>>>>

Whn my yeast was at its worst I was avoiding all honey and most

fruits. I even had to be careful with some veggies (couldn't eat

carrots or squash for a while). I started cooking the carrots until

they were super tender (ie. I started making the chicken soup

again) Since I couldn't live like that for long I started

antifungals and then the yeast enzymes etc...

Do you give the diflucan at the same time as the antibiotic?

Are you using either the yogurt or a legal probiotic? If these

aren't tolerated now you could try the fermented veggies or the

fermeted juice from them to encourage good bacteria to help keep the

level of yeast down.

<<<<<He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5

pounds > after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.>>>

To keep my weight and energy level up I ate more of the foods I could

tolerate and lots of good fats, homemade mayo, yogurt made with cream

or half and half.

>

> I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this point is

> to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and to

> starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to help

> the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we are

> starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a problem.>>>>

The diet can help people with yeast. Some people have very stubborn,

resistant yeast and may need extra help (antifungals, yeast enzymes

etc...)

<<<<We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast AND

bad bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

>

> I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this calms

> down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from his

> diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.>>>>

What veggies does he tolerate and eat?

<<<<He loved raw veggies before we started this, and now he will

hardly eat veggies at all (although I just revived squash fries last

night > and he ate them ut of house and home. He was refusing them

for a > while there.)

>

> I know that much of this is a hump b/c of the lyme, because the

gains> he has made on this diet have been tremendous. I probably

just need> a pep talk.

>

> It is just extremely frustrating. He WAS an awesome eater, and now

> he is incredibly picky and won't even eat his old favorites (like

> certain meats) that were SCD legal even before we started all of

this.

>

> I bought 4 SCD cookbooks and make a lot of the recipes I see on-

line.

>

> Also, his diaper had formed stool 7 times in a row since week 2 and

> them went back to slop WAY before this antibiotic thing, and we

have

> never been able to get the good poops back.

>

> Thanks for reading. We are definitely sticking this out until after

> the antibiotics are done, but God knows whether or ot he will be

able

> to get rid of this lyme with all of his other immune system issues.

>

> UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

>

>

> MS Mom to Nick age 5 ASD/ SCD 10 weeks.

>

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

<<<<The thing that finally got the meat to stick to his bones was the

ice cream I mentioned. It's the recipe from the Healing Little

Tummies cookbook. I took the recipe and added ground up chicken and

he can't taste it. I have been warned by my SCD consultant that raw

egg whites can lead to something called a biotin deficiency.

Unfortunately, I felt I had no choice but to continue to feed him the

ice cream because> the benefits far outweighed any negative

things.>>>>>

Raw egg whites can lead to a biotin deficiency in some people if they

do not consume enough biotin to bind to the avidin in the whites.

You can either supplement (it is part of most multis and B complexes)

or get it from a varied diet.

Food sources of Biotin:

" Excellent sources of biotin include chard, tomatoes, romaine

lettuce, and carrots. Very good sources include almonds, chicken

eggs, onions, cabbage, cucumber, and cauliflower. Good sources ...

raspberries, strawberries, halibut, oats, and walnuts. "

from http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=42

Cooking the egg whites neutralizes the avidin.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

For that cool vanilla ice cream recipe that contain raw eggs:

Can the egg whites/yolks be whipped in a double-boiler before the rest

of the ingredients are added?

I have made this ice cream recipe twice and was a little wigged out

about the raw eggs.

Maybe if the entire mixture is cooled down BEFORE it goes into the ice

cream maker, it will cool down.

If anyone has ever tried his experiment, please let me know.

I think I am going to give it a shot.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Sheila,

My answrs are in caps.

>

> <<<<My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made

> dramatic > improvements in attention and focus. Much of his

stimming

> went away > as well.

> >

> > Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast is

> > AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12 hours

> > away from Diflucan)>>>>

>

>

> How much longer will he be on he antibiotics?

IT WILL BE AT LEAST ANOTHER 3 WEEKS AND HE MAY EVEN NEED TO GO ON A

SECOND ONE THAT WILL ASCERTAIN THAT THE LYME DOES NOT MIGRATE TO HIS

MUSCLES, ORGANS, BONES, ETC. IT IS AN EVIL BACTERIA, ESPECIALLY FOR

ASD KIDS. THEY CAN'T SHAKE IT, AND WE CANNOT RISK THE NEUROLOGICAL

DAMAGE IT COULD DO TO OUR SON IF WE ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH IN

TREATING IT NOW.

> <<<<<

> > Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things,

mouthing

> > things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

> >

> > I have read everything there is to read on this web site about

> yeast.>>>>>

>

> Have you seen http://pecanbread.com/new/yeast.html and

> http://pecanbread.com/new/yeastsheila.html

YES, I READ IT ALL. I MAY ADD IN A YEAST ENZYME.

>

>

> <<<<<I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on a

> lyme website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he is

on

> > antibiotics.

> >

> > Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in

feeding

> > yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts are

> > supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to

> mold.>>>>

>

>

> Whn my yeast was at its worst I was avoiding all honey and most

> fruits. I even had to be careful with some veggies (couldn't eat

> carrots or squash for a while). I started cooking the carrots

until

> they were super tender (ie. I started making the chicken soup

> again) Since I couldn't live like that for long I started

> antifungals and then the yeast enzymes etc...

>

>

> Do you give the diflucan at the same time as the antibiotic?

>

I GIVE SACC B. W/THE MORNING ANTIBIOTIC, ACIDOPHOLIS IN BETWEEN,

DIFLUCAN WITH THE SECOND DOSE OF ANTIBIOTIC, ACIDOPOHOLIS IN BETWEEN,

AND SACC B. W/ THE THIRD DOSE OF ANTIBIOTIC. I WAS STAGGERING THE

DIFLUCAN, BUT THAT WAS MAKING HIM FLARE UP WORSE BECAUSE THE YEAST

HAD FREE REIGN IN HIS BELLY FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA THAT MAY WORK BETTER THAN WHAT I AM DOING, I

AM ALL EARS! ALSO, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IN A YEAST ENZYME? WOULD

THAT WORK WHEN I GIVE HIM THE ACIDOPHOLIS, OR WILL IT RIP THE

PROBIOTICS APART, TOO?

> Are you using either the yogurt or a legal probiotic? If these

> aren't tolerated now you could try the fermented veggies or the

> fermeted juice from them to encourage good bacteria to help keep

the

> level of yeast down.

>

I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING FERMENTED. IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO TRY.

>

> <<<<<He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5

> pounds > after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.>>>

>

>

> To keep my weight and energy level up I ate more of the foods I

could

> tolerate and lots of good fats, homemade mayo, yogurt made with

cream

> or half and half.

>

HE CANNOT HAVE DAIRY AT THIS POINT, BUT I AM TRYING TO GIVE HIM

AVOCADOES (HIT OR MISS), AND I AM ALSO USING OLIVE OIL AND SUNFLOWER

OIL ANYWHERE I CAN.

> >

> > I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this point

is

> > to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and to

> > starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to

help

> > the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we

are

> > starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a

problem.>>>>

>

> The diet can help people with yeast. Some people have very

stubborn,

> resistant yeast and may need extra help (antifungals, yeast enzymes

> etc...)

> HE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AT LEAST WHILE ON THE ANTIBIOTICS!!!!

>

> <<<<We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast AND

> bad bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

> >

> > I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this calms

> > down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from his

> > diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.>>>>

>

>

> What veggies does he tolerate and eat?

>

HE WAS EATING BROCCOLI, CARROTS, SQUASH, SNOW PEAS, GREEN BEANS,

CAULIFLOUR, BUT NOW IT IS " HIT OR MISS. " I STEAM THEM OR ROAST THEM

IN THE OVEN WITH GARLIC AND OIL.

>

> <<<<He loved raw veggies before we started this, and now he will

> hardly eat veggies at all (although I just revived squash fries

last

> night > and he ate them ut of house and home. He was refusing them

> for a > while there.)

> >

> > I know that much of this is a hump b/c of the lyme, because the

> gains> he has made on this diet have been tremendous. I probably

> just need> a pep talk.

> >

> > It is just extremely frustrating. He WAS an awesome eater, and

now

> > he is incredibly picky and won't even eat his old favorites (like

> > certain meats) that were SCD legal even before we started all of

> this.

> >

> > I bought 4 SCD cookbooks and make a lot of the recipes I see on-

> line.

> >

> > Also, his diaper had formed stool 7 times in a row since week 2

and

> > them went back to slop WAY before this antibiotic thing, and we

> have

> > never been able to get the good poops back.

> >

> > Thanks for reading. We are definitely sticking this out until

after

> > the antibiotics are done, but God knows whether or ot he will be

> able

> > to get rid of this lyme with all of his other immune system

issues.

> >

> > UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!

> >

> >

> > MS Mom to Nick age 5 ASD/ SCD 10 weeks.

> >

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't tried this, but Elaine said the bacteria is

on the outside of the egg so that you can wash the egg

before cracking it.

--- mrsstanko wrote:

> For that cool vanilla ice cream recipe that contain

> raw eggs:

>

> Can the egg whites/yolks be whipped in a

> double-boiler before the rest

> of the ingredients are added?

>

> I have made this ice cream recipe twice and was a

> little wigged out

> about the raw eggs.

>

> Maybe if the entire mixture is cooled down BEFORE it

> goes into the ice

> cream maker, it will cool down.

>

> If anyone has ever tried his experiment, please let

> me know.

>

> I think I am going to give it a shot.

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi MS,

-- In pecanbread , " mrsstanko " wrote:

>

> For that cool vanilla ice cream recipe that contain raw eggs:

>

> Can the egg whites/yolks be whipped in a double-boiler before the

rest of the ingredients are added?>

> I have made this ice cream recipe twice and was a little wigged

out

> about the raw eggs. >>>

To neutralize the avidin heat to 134F f and hold for 3.5 minutes.

<<<<Maybe if the entire mixture is cooled down BEFORE it goes into

the ice

> cream maker, it will cool down.

>

> If anyone has ever tried his experiment, please let me know.

>

> I think I am going to give it a shot.>>>

Let us know if it works

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of Em and Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi MS,

<<<< > Hi Sheila,

>

> My answrs are in caps.

> >

> > <<<<My son has been on SCD since the middle of August and made

> > dramatic > improvements in attention and focus. Much of his

> stimming

> > went away > as well.

> > >

> > > Now, he is on an antibiotic for lyme's disease, and the yeast

is

> > > AWFUL even with Diflucan and Sacc. B. on board. (Sacc B. 12

hours

> > > away from Diflucan)>>>>

> >

> >

> > How much longer will he be on he antibiotics?

>

> IT WILL BE AT LEAST ANOTHER 3 WEEKS AND HE MAY EVEN NEED TO GO ON

A

> SECOND ONE THAT WILL ASCERTAIN THAT THE LYME DOES NOT MIGRATE TO

HIS

> MUSCLES, ORGANS, BONES, ETC. IT IS AN EVIL BACTERIA, ESPECIALLY

FOR

> ASD KIDS. THEY CAN'T SHAKE IT, AND WE CANNOT RISK THE

NEUROLOGICAL

> DAMAGE IT COULD DO TO OUR SON IF WE ARE NOT AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH IN

> TREATING IT NOW.

>

>

> > <<<<<

> > > Every behavior is back that went away: destroying things,

> mouthing

> > > things. waking up at 5:00 AM laughing at nothing, etc.

> > >

> > > I have read everything there is to read on this web site about

> > yeast.>>>>>

> >

> > Have you seen http://pecanbread.com/new/yeast.html and

> > http://pecanbread.com/new/yeastsheila.html

>

> YES, I READ IT ALL. I MAY ADD IN A YEAST ENZYME.

> >

>

> >

> > <<<<<I started looking at what foods feed yeast after reading on

a

> > lyme website to avoid **simple sugars** to curb yeast while he

is

> on

> > > antibiotics.

> > >

> > > Much of what he is eating on SCD are the worst offenders in

> feeding

> > > yeast: bananas, apples, grape juice, olives, etc. Even nuts

are

> > > supposed to be avoided on a standard anti-yeast diet due to

> > mold.>>>>

> >

> >

> > Whn my yeast was at its worst I was avoiding all honey and most

> > fruits. I even had to be careful with some veggies (couldn't eat

> > carrots or squash for a while). I started cooking the carrots

> until

> > they were super tender (ie. I started making the chicken soup

> > again) Since I couldn't live like that for long I started

> > antifungals and then the yeast enzymes etc...

> >

> >

> > Do you give the diflucan at the same time as the antibiotic?

> >

> I GIVE SACC B. W/THE MORNING ANTIBIOTIC, ACIDOPHOLIS IN BETWEEN,

> DIFLUCAN WITH THE SECOND DOSE OF ANTIBIOTIC, ACIDOPOHOLIS IN

BETWEEN,

> AND SACC B. W/ THE THIRD DOSE OF ANTIBIOTIC. I WAS STAGGERING THE

> DIFLUCAN, BUT THAT WAS MAKING HIM FLARE UP WORSE BECAUSE THE YEAST

> HAD FREE REIGN IN HIS BELLY FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

>

> IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA THAT MAY WORK BETTER THAN WHAT I AM

DOING, I

> AM ALL EARS! ALSO, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IN A YEAST ENZYME? WOULD

> THAT WORK WHEN I GIVE HIM THE ACIDOPHOLIS, OR WILL IT RIP THE

> PROBIOTICS APART, TOO?

I think what you are doing is good. Taking either the diflucan or

S. boulardii with the antibiotic should help some. If you aren't

taking anything at bedtime taking the yeast enzyme then would be

best.

It depends on what kind you use. I alays played it safe and took

yogurt as far away from the enzymes as possible. Between doses of

your antibiotics is good. How much probiotic are you using /day?

Elaine said you can work upto 9 billion CFU/day.

<<< Are you using either the yogurt or a legal probiotic? If these

> > aren't tolerated now you could try the fermented veggies or the

> > fermeted juice from them to encourage good bacteria to help keep

> the

> > level of yeast down.

> >

> I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING FERMENTED. IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO TRY.

You can ferment veggies and get good bacteria from that .

> > <<<<<He weighed in at 45 lbs. last February and is down to 42.5

> > pounds > after being on SCD. This concerns us greaty.>>>

> >

> >

> > To keep my weight and energy level up I ate more of the foods I

> could

> > tolerate and lots of good fats, homemade mayo, yogurt made with

> cream

> > or half and half.

> >

> HE CANNOT HAVE DAIRY AT THIS POINT, BUT I AM TRYING TO GIVE HIM

> AVOCADOES (HIT OR MISS), AND I AM ALSO USING OLIVE OIL AND

SUNFLOWER

> OIL ANYWHERE I CAN.

> > >

> > > I understand that what we are trying to accomplish at this

point

> is

> > > to give him the things he can digest as easily as possible and

to

> > > starve out bad bacteria, but how much is this diet intended to

> help

> > > the yeast issue overall???? Is it really only bad bacteria we

> are

> > > starving out because for him, yeast is just as bad of a

> problem.>>>>

> >

> > The diet can help people with yeast. Some people have very

> stubborn,

> > resistant yeast and may need extra help (antifungals, yeast

enzymes

> > etc...)

> > HE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AT LEAST WHILE ON THE ANTIBIOTICS!!!!

> >

> > <<<<We went into this assuming that we were starving out yeast

AND

> > bad bacteria, but this is clearly not the case.

> > >

> > > I know that cutting out bananas and other fruits until this

calms

> > > down would be a good idea, but if I omit the above foods from

his

> > > diet, he will starve. He rarely even eats honey.>>>>

> >

> >

> > What veggies does he tolerate and eat?

> >

> HE WAS EATING BROCCOLI, CARROTS, SQUASH, SNOW PEAS, GREEN BEANS,

> CAULIFLOUR, BUT NOW IT IS " HIT OR MISS. " I STEAM THEM OR ROAST

THEM

> IN THE OVEN WITH GARLIC AND OIL.

If his bowels aren't good with certain food making sure he is

digesting foods well and only givng food that he digests well will

help starve out the yeast .

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and