Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you could?probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: how much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how much is necessary for healing? Thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hi , <<< > > Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you could? probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it > doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> > > This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: how much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how much is necessary for healing?>>> I am not quite sure what you are asking but I'll take a " stab " at it: The stages are a guide to help those who aren't sure what type of foods are generally best to start with when they are symptomatic. Some people were cutting out starches, sygars and other illegals and eating all legal foods and doing fantastic. Some other people were eating all legal foods (including raisins peanut butter etc..) and either their symptoms weren't improving or they were getting worse. We put the stages together so that people who need to start with the intro are given an idea about how to proceed after it if they are symptomatic. Does that help? Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 This introduces a question that I have. My daughter is autistic but doesn't have any bowel symptoms. We started scd 5 days ago, and she is doing well and is very cooperative. But it is hard, and I was wondering if she has to start with the intro diet. Could we just start with the " nut diet " as it is called on pecanbread.com, and use all the legal foods? Or is there benefit in introducing foods slowly for improving autism? Kathy, mom of , age 12, autistic, just starting scd Re: resistent 14 year old Hi , <<< > > Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you could? probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it > doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> > > This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: how much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how much is necessary for healing?>>> I am not quite sure what you are asking but I'll take a " stab " at it: The stages are a guide to help those who aren't sure what type of foods are generally best to start with when they are symptomatic. Some people were cutting out starches, sygars and other illegals and eating all legal foods and doing fantastic. Some other people were eating all legal foods (including raisins peanut butter etc..) and either their symptoms weren't improving or they were getting worse. We put the stages together so that people who need to start with the intro are given an idea about how to proceed after it if they are symptomatic. Does that help? Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hi Kathy, What kind of symptoms does she have? What foods is she eating now? Have you seen any change since starting the diet? For the vast majority of people there is a huge benefit to starting with the intro diet. It allows you to start with the most basic foods and slowly add foods that gradually become harder to digest. A damaged gut may not be able to digest these more complex foods when you start the diet but as the body heals these foods can be digested and utilized properly by the body. If she does have either physical or behavioural problems starting with the intro and then gradually adding foods will allow healing to occur faster and as you introduce more complex foods you will notice either continued healing or a regression (bowel and/or behavioural symptoms) -indicating foods she isn't ready for yet. The problem with starting with more advanced foods is if she is unable to digest the more advanced food she may continue to have symptoms. When this goes on for a long period you may wonder what is the point and give up before seeing any of the benefits that the diet can give. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and -- In pecanbread , Kathy Sharp wrote: > > This introduces a question that I have. My daughter is autistic but doesn't have any bowel symptoms. We started scd 5 days ago, and she is doing well and is very cooperative. But it is hard, and I was wondering if she has to start with the intro diet. Could we just start with the " nut diet " as it is called on pecanbread.com, and use all the legal foods? Or is there benefit in introducing foods slowly for improving autism? > Kathy, mom of , age 12, autistic, just starting scd > > > Re: resistent 14 year old > > Hi , > > <<< > > > > Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you could? > probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it > > doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> > > > > This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: how > much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how much > is necessary for healing?>>> > > I am not quite sure what you are asking but I'll take a " stab " at it: > > The stages are a guide to help those who aren't sure what type of foods > are generally best to start with when they are symptomatic. Some > people were cutting out starches, sygars and other illegals and eating > all legal foods and doing fantastic. Some other people were eating all > legal foods (including raisins peanut butter etc..) and either their > symptoms weren't improving or they were getting worse. We put the > stages together so that people who need to start with the intro are > given an idea about how to proceed after it if they are symptomatic. > > Does that help? > > Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Sheila, she has mostly behavioural symptoms. She also has puffy eyes, developmental delay, and continual congestion. I really haven't seen any improvements as yet of any kind. Do I keep her on the intro diet until I do? I have been introducing a new food about every other day, but she has had some foods that are fairly advanced (nut flour and coconut) because I needed a treat, and didn't have any, and didn't want mutiny. How do you know when to introduce new foods? Is honey Stage 1? I guess we need to restart at the intro diet, and be more careful, because from what you say, I do need the intro diet. Thank you for your input. I really do need to know more about how you know when it is ok to add food. I do have the intro diet and the stages downloaded but feel quite challenged. I'm sure it will get better as we go. Kathy, mom to , 12, on diet for about 7 days for autism. Re: resistent 14 year old > > Hi , > > <<< > > > > Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you could? > probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it > > doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> > > > > This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: how > much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how much > is necessary for healing?>>> > > I am not quite sure what you are asking but I'll take a " stab " at it: > > The stages are a guide to help those who aren't sure what type of foods > are generally best to start with when they are symptomatic. Some > people were cutting out starches, sygars and other illegals and eating > all legal foods and doing fantastic. Some other people were eating all > legal foods (including raisins peanut butter etc..) and either their > symptoms weren't improving or they were getting worse. We put the > stages together so that people who need to start with the intro are > given an idea about how to proceed after it if they are symptomatic. > > Does that help? > > Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hi Kathy, For your daughter going slow may be more helpful because she is having some symptoms. You should only stay on the intro for a maximum of 5 days and then start to introduce more legal foods. Coconut is pretty advanced for most and especially for those still displaying symptoms. If you need some kind of treat there are many pudding recipes and more treats at http://www.pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html With nuts, pecans and blanched almonds are the easiest to digest. Then comes blanched hazelnuts (filberts), walnuts, pistachios a bit later coconut and lastly cashews (which have some starches). Nut butters are easiest to digest then nut flours, then nut pieces and lastly whole nuts. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and -- In pecanbread , Kathy Sharp wrote: > > Sheila, she has mostly behavioural symptoms. She also has puffy eyes, developmental delay, and continual congestion. I really haven't seen any improvements as yet of any kind. Do I keep her on the intro diet until I do? I have been introducing a new food about every other day, but she has had some foods that are fairly advanced (nut flour and coconut) because I needed a treat, and didn't have any, and didn't want mutiny. How do you know when to introduce new foods? Is honey Stage 1? I guess we need to restart at the intro diet, and be more careful, because from what you say, I do need the intro diet. Thank you for your input. I really do need to know more about how you know when it is ok to add food. I do have the intro diet and the stages downloaded but feel quite challenged. I'm sure it will get better as we go. > > Kathy, mom to , 12, on diet for about 7 days for autism. > > > Re: resistent 14 year old > > > > Hi , > > > > <<< > > > > > > Sheila wrote, <<Since he doesn't have overt bowel symptoms you > could? > > probably give?him more of the advanced foods, especially since it > > > doesn't sound as?if he would willingly do the intro diet.>> > > > > > > This is the part about the diet that I really don't understand: > how > > much of the " stages " is required only for bowel symptoms, and how > much > > is necessary for healing?>>> > > > > I am not quite sure what you are asking but I'll take a " stab " at > it: > > > > The stages are a guide to help those who aren't sure what type of > foods > > are generally best to start with when they are symptomatic. Some > > people were cutting out starches, sygars and other illegals and > eating > > all legal foods and doing fantastic. Some other people were eating > all > > legal foods (including raisins peanut butter etc..) and either > their > > symptoms weren't improving or they were getting worse. We put the > > stages together so that people who need to start with the intro > are > > given an idea about how to proceed after it if they are > symptomatic. > > > > Does that help? > > > > Sheila, SCD Feb.2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > > mom of and > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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