Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 These are two foods that just make my dd so much worse. Head whackingly worse. What do they have in common, nutritionally? Just curious about if there's a common denominator culprit here...phenols, luteine, lycopene, salicylates? I have no idea. Alana dd, 13 yrs. on diet since 9-15 Asperger's syndrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Those are both listed as highly reactive to people with salicylate issues according to the Feingold folks. But each person reacts to different salicylates, it really just depends. For example, my son is able to tolerate tomato, small amounts of almonds, and cherries now, but any other berries still send him pinging off the walls. You just have to figure out which sals are the worst for your particular kid's chemistry. Some people find that using No-fenol from Houston enzymes helps. Others using Kirkman's Phenol product, I forget what it is called. We had zero luck with N0-Fenol, even after 1 year of use. (but Houston's other digestive enzymes worked very well for us to cope with leaky gut food sensitivity issues). My current approach is to feed my kids as many high salicylate foods as I can, without losing my sanity (so I still avoid the worse reaction causers). Removing the Feingold recommended salicylates entirely from the diet only made things worse, even after 4 months of sticking to strict elimination according to their suggestions. The kids' sensitivity got worse and worse, and I was forced to eliminate more and more things, even those beyond Feingold stage one. I decided that something wasn't working and did some reading. I now agree with Elaine that you should feed your kids as varied of a diet as you can and only eliminate those that provoke a true allergy or that the gut isn't tolerating. So, I've been trying to add back in all the salicylate foods that we originally eliminated. I'm hoping to increase tolerance by slowly adding it back into the diet. Also, now that we are doing strict by the phases SCD and going slowly, the salicylate issue is slowly getting better, but not as fast as I would like, LOL. Basically my opinion is that eliminating the salicylates from the diet ala Feingold is a futile process. Best to focus on curing the underlying issues that caused the chemistry to go awry through SCD and cut out only the worst offending sals for your particular kid. (ie the ones that make you want to sell your kids to the gypsies. LOL). But that is just my opinion. Here is Feingold's lists of the most commonly problematic salicylate foods: Aspirin and products containing aspirin or salicylic acid Salicylates Almonds Apples Apricots Berries (all) Cherries Chili powder Cider & cider vinegar (apples) Cloves Coffee Cucumbers & pickles Currants Grapes & raisins Nectarines Oranges Paprika Peaches Peppers (bell & chili) Plums, prunes Tangerines Tea Tomatoes Wine & wine vinegar (grapes) Oil of wintergreen (methyl salicylate) Rose hips or acerola (often found in vitamins) K Dayton, Ohio, USA SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is finally and ever so slowly transitioning to it. Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > These are two foods that just make my dd so much worse. Head > whackingly worse. > > What do they have in common, nutritionally? > > Just curious about if there's a common denominator culprit > here...phenols, luteine, lycopene, salicylates? I have no idea. > > Alana > dd, 13 yrs. on diet since 9-15 > Asperger's syndrome > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hey Sorry to butt in on this, but I've got salicylate/amine intolerances, and I'm wondering if I can email you off list to pick your brain a little. Between SCD and the sals/amines, I've been eating about four things for the past year, and no real headway in the area of diet and introducing more foods. (although the neuro symptoms are so much better!) Would appreciate your help... Thanks, Tara CD - 25yrs/ileostomy - 15yrs Salicylate/amine intolerant SCD since 11/06 > > > > These are two foods that just make my dd so much worse. Head > > whackingly worse. > > > > What do they have in common, nutritionally? > > > > Just curious about if there's a common denominator culprit > > here...phenols, luteine, lycopene, salicylates? I have no idea. > > > > Alana > > dd, 13 yrs. on diet since 9-15 > > Asperger's syndrome > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hi Tara. Sure, feel free to email me offlist. Not sure if I'll prove all too helpful, but I'm happy to let you pick my brain for whatever may be useful. :-) I'm horrible for responding in anything resembling a timely manner, LOL, but I do eventually get around to answering my emails. :-) K Dayton, Ohio, USA SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is finally and ever so slowly transitioning to it. Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > Hey > > Sorry to butt in on this, but I've got salicylate/amine intolerances, > and I'm wondering if I can email you off list to pick your brain a > little. Between SCD and the sals/amines, I've been eating about four > things for the past year, and no real headway in the area of diet and > introducing more foods. (although the neuro symptoms are so much > better!) Would appreciate your help... > > Thanks, > > Tara > CD - 25yrs/ileostomy - 15yrs > Salicylate/amine intolerant > SCD since 11/06 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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