WHAT NOW?

[Guest guest]

Some of you may have read my posts last week. I began Day 1 of the

intro diet last Tuesday. My 6 yo began vomiting that night and it

lasted for five hours. He then refused all food for the next three

days. I was absolutely devistated and guilt-ridden. I sobbed

uncontrollably because I had so much hope that he would give in and

eat. I wanted desperately for my son to just take a bite. My son had

dark circles under his sunken eyes and was so weak he could not make

it up the stairs. Everyone kept telling me " he will eat " ......my son

WOULD NOT! I finally decided to feed him what he would eat to get him

back on his feet and now he is fine. I do believe in this diet 100%

and I will keep trying, I just think that my son has more issues on

the neurological side that I cannot understand, and the doctors have

been unable to as well. His hands literally tremble at the sight of

an non-preferred food in his face. Where do I go from here. I have

even lost the ability to give him supplements, he is afraid of

everything I approach him with.

[Guest guest]

While the Intro Diet is really the ideal way to start SCD, sometimes it's just

not possible. You can start with any legal food.... peeled and cooked fruits

and veggies, preferably.... or ease in to SCD legal foods. Then a ways down

the road, you may be able to do two days of the Intro Diet without such dramatic

consequences.

Keep in mind that if you do try to " ease in " .... while still allowing favorite

starchy grain-based carbs, the carb addiction may override his acceptance of new

foods and really become an obstacle you can't surmount.

If you can find a few SCD legal winners.... such as butternut squash fries,

mini meatballs, etc... then you'll more easily be able to take away the

remaining illegals. It's not easy, but keep trying.

Does he like popsicles? Smoothies? Pancakes? Muffins? If even one of those

options is acceptable, you will be able to do it.

Patti, SCD coach and mom to Katera, age 11... SCD (2nd time around) since May

2006

WHAT NOW?

Some of you may have read my posts last week. I began Day 1 of the

intro diet last Tuesday. My 6 yo began vomiting that night and it

lasted for five hours. He then refused all food for the next three

days. I was absolutely devistated and guilt-ridden. I sobbed

uncontrollably because I had so much hope that he would give in and

eat. I wanted desperately for my son to just take a bite. My son had

dark circles under his sunken eyes and was so weak he could not make

it up the stairs. Everyone kept telling me " he will eat " ......my son

WOULD NOT! I finally decided to feed him what he would eat to get him

back on his feet and now he is fine. I do believe in this diet 100%

and I will keep trying, I just think that my son has more issues on

the neurological side that I cannot understand, and the doctors have

been unable to as well. His hands literally tremble at the sight of

an non-preferred food in his face. Where do I go from here. I have

even lost the ability to give him supplements, he is afraid of

everything I approach him with.

[Guest guest]

>What you said about the carbs is so true. I accidentally posted on

another site last week and I was shamed by several people for

going " cold turkey. " I tried to ease into it but how is that

possible when they only eat two things, bread and fries? He will

simply refuse and wait until he gets either of the two preferred

foods and then gorge himself until full. I found out last week that

he will literally starve himself if not given what he wants. I will

keep trying, I just need guidance for a DIFFICULT child.

[Guest guest]

Have you tried making the butternut squash fries? I honestly don't know how you

could make this transition if he literally will not eat ANYthing except a

particular kind of bread... and a particular kind of potato french fry. This

is a tough one for sure. Do you think he would give these a try.... they

REALLY look like regular fries and are very good. A carb lovers dream.

The recipe on pecanbread.com for cashew butter muffins turns out very light and

fluffy and bread-like... very white in color. Normally, cashew butter should

be considered more advanced... but in this case, it might be something you have

to do. If you can't find cashew butter, go to futtersnutbutters.com .

I know we once had another case on this list where the child refused to eat

ANYthing but grape juice popsicles.... for NINE days. He was one sick puppy,

with die-off symptoms due to the overgrowth of pathogens that had been happily

thriving on his favorite starchy carbs for a long time. But, he finally did

eat. If I remember right, he was eating chicken and green beans a few days

later, as if they had always been his favorites.

The mom was VERY worried... and it seems like she did have to syringe some

liquids into him in the beginning, as he was refusing everything and throwing

tantrums. But they were out of options... and they knew his addiction to the

starches was hurting him, so were determined to stick it out.

I'm not sure that really helps... but just know you're not the only one to be

in this tight spot. It's actually true that sometimes the only way to do it is

cold turkey, as until you remove the offending foods and KEEP them away until he

(and the pathogens) know they aren't coming back, you'll never break the

addiction.

Patti

Re: WHAT NOW?

>What you said about the carbs is so true. I accidentally posted on

another site last week and I was shamed by several people for

going " cold turkey. " I tried to ease into it but how is that

possible when they only eat two things, bread and fries? He will

simply refuse and wait until he gets either of the two preferred

foods and then gorge himself until full. I found out last week that

he will literally starve himself if not given what he wants. I will

keep trying, I just need guidance for a DIFFICULT child.

[Guest guest]

Anoter possible bread might be the Mixed Nut Flatbread on

www.pecanbread.com but using only almond flour so the color is

lighter. Cut the amount of baking soda so it's not so puffy. Then cut

the bread in sandwich bread size pieces. If it's still too moist and

not bread-like enough, freeze the slices on a cookie sheet. Then heat

in the toaster. That will get some of the moisture out.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

I have been making the " cashew butter muffins " with almond butter

that I am making after blanching the almonds and it is working really

well. I even snuck some well drained squash in them on my last batch

along with the bananas. I have found that the recipe works really

well for any size thing you want to turn it into -- I have used the

batter to make muffins, mini-muffins, mini bundt cakes and a 9x13

cake (I baked it in a glass pyrex pan). Not sure if the almond

butter might be easier to digest than cashew butter for early stages?

Kim

(Henry 7.75 yrs old, SCD since mid-October)

> >What you said about the carbs is so true. I accidentally posted

on

> another site last week and I was shamed by several people for

> going " cold turkey. " I tried to ease into it but how is that

> possible when they only eat two things, bread and fries? He will

> simply refuse and wait until he gets either of the two preferred

> foods and then gorge himself until full. I found out last week

that

> he will literally starve himself if not given what he wants. I

will

> keep trying, I just need guidance for a DIFFICULT child.

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[Guest guest]

Hi micwentz

wrote:

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> >What you said about the carbs is so true. I accidentally posted

on

> another site last week and I was shamed by several people for

> going " cold turkey. " >>>

I am sorry to hear that you were shamed instead of supported on the

other site.

<<<<I tried to ease into it but how is that

> possible when they only eat two things, bread and fries? He will

> simply refuse and wait until he gets either of the two preferred

> foods and then gorge himself until full. I found out last week

that> he will literally starve himself if not given what he wants.

I will> keep trying, I just need guidance for a DIFFICULT child.>>>

You may need to take a slow approach to adding SCD.

Since he is nervous now you may want to wait a while first until he

is a little more receptive. Not that I normally encourage eating

fries and bread but if he will truly starve himself (and some

children will) the cold turkey approach isn't for you. Some people

are able to make it work by ensuring that the child doesn't become

dehydrated while they are refusing food by giving the diluted legal

juices or the electrolyte mix. Some kids will only take it like

medicine during their hunger strike (in medicine

droppers/syringes). But if he has stopped even his supplements then

this may not work for you.

To take a very slow approach what you could try (you'll probably

need to wait a few weeks) is to have his bread of fries ready and

have one small bite of an SCD legal food. Tell him he can have his

fries or bread once he has a bite of the SCD food. You may want

him to get used to the food by eating it yourself in front of him a

few times before you show it to him. Some find that making a big

deal about how delicious it is before he gets to try it helps - gets

them curious.

There are a few different bread recipes depending on what kind of

bread he is eating now we may be able to make a recommendation as to

the closest SCD bread.

Once he starts eating even little pieces start increasing the

amounts of the SCD food and decreasing the amounts of the illegals.

If he drinks juice now, start adding legal juice to it and gradually

reduce the illegal juice while gradually increasing the legal juice

until eventualy it is all legal juice.

There are more tips here:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#transition

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and