Re: Increased stomach pain

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My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he has

always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on the

SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C and

mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He keeps

complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such loose

stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining of stomach pain

alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it make

sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

Here is what he is eating.

scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

cupcakes,

hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and green

beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

applesauce, but not much at a time.

We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He is

burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He doesn't

eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat more then two

times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not want to eat. I

am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

Please feel free to comment...

Patti G.

[Guest guest]

Patti,

There are so many variables. It does seem odd that he has had loose stools all

this time.

Are you absolutely certain all of his supplements are legal? Are you using

magnesium citrate, by any chance? Is he taking acidophilus?

Some kids do not tolerate carrots well. Have you tried pulling them out? And

are you sure your bananas are always nice and ripe?

I'll try to help if I can.

Patti, former pecanbread moderator... & Katera's mom

Re: Increased stomach pain

My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he has

always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on the

SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C and

mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He keeps

complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such loose

stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining of stomach pain

alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it make

sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

Here is what he is eating.

scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

cupcakes,

hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and green

beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

applesauce, but not much at a time.

We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He is

burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He doesn't

eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat more then two

times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not want to eat. I

am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

Please feel free to comment...

Patti G.

[Guest guest]

It does depend on so many things.

My two cents...did you start with only a couple of

foods and increase from there? It sounds like you need

to go back to the bare basics. Supplements can also

cause problems for some kids. You may want to

re-introduce those one at a time as well.

For my son, we are still in the early stages, and

bananas are a problem for him. He is having loose

stools that look light, which makes me think they are

feeding yeast even though they are very ripe, so we

are going to stop them and try again later.

I think your son is definitely having a hard time

digesting something. I never heard of taking Singulair

for stomach pain. It made me sick to my stomach when I

was briefly on it for asthma.

B.

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--- y2kpg2002 wrote:

> My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet

> just shy of 3

> months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first

> being that he has

> always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet.

> Since being on the

> SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop

> his dose of C and

> mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated

> again. He keeps

> complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to

> have such loose

> stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of

> Singulair for stomach

> inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining

> of stomach pain

> alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more

> pain. Does it make

> sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is

> eatng more

> digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in

> a long time.

> Here is what he is eating.

> scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape

> juice, chicken

> cupcakes,

> hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas,

> chicken and green

> beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat

> cooked

> applesauce, but not much at a time.

> We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his

> stomach is making

> lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is

> strained. He is

> burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough

> time. He doesn't

> eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't

> eat more then two

> times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not

> want to eat. I

> am wondering if I should try a med for the

> inflammation for a few

> months until his body adjusts to this new way of

> eating??

> Please feel free to comment...

> Patti G.

>

>

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For us we had to go back to the intro diet of just chicken and apples. We

added banana, he was fine, we added green beans, fine, we added back

burger....tummy pain and loose stools. We actually had more tummy pain on

this diet and looser stools until we removed red meat. We have just now

introduced it again in small amounts and he is fine so far. This is three

months later and now six months into the diet. We introduced the goats

yogurt two weeks ago and the beef just this week again. Not sure if this

would be your problem but it was definitely ours for the one twin. I think

the goats yogurt has helped so our son could tolerate the beef. You may have

to go back to the intro for just a day like we did. As soon as we

reintroduced the beef the tummy pains were back that night. Now with waiting

three months he is fine and so far so are his stools (fingers crossed)

Behaviour and tummy pains go hand and hand. Same with our NT 11 year old. He

has a wheat allergy and we know when he has had it because he starts getting

whiney and sensitive when otherwise he is an easy going kid. Everytime he

gets like this he has a tummy ache at night and we can 99 percent of the

time trace it back to accidently ingesting wheat.

Hope this helps

Cindy

Mom to and ( healed and recovering) 4 year old twins

SCD six long exhausting well worth it months!

Re: Increased stomach pain

>

>

> My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

> months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he has

> always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on the

> SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C and

> mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He keeps

> complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such loose

> stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

> inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining of stomach pain

> alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it make

> sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

> digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

> Here is what he is eating.

> scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

> cupcakes,

> hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and green

> beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

> applesauce, but not much at a time.

> We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

> lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He is

> burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He doesn't

> eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat more then two

> times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not want to eat. I

> am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

> months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

> Please feel free to comment...

> Patti G.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI there...we are getting that -the gurgles and burps and some quite noxious

toots with yeast die off....that would also explain the tummy aches perhaps and

the stool changes...any signs of yeast in the stools? This diet starves the

pathogens when it is doing what it should....this could all be detox...perhaps

others will be able to tell you for sure. Di

Re: Increased stomach pain

My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he has

always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on the

SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C and

mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He keeps

complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such loose

stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining of stomach pain

alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it make

sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

Here is what he is eating.

scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

cupcakes,

hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and green

beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

applesauce, but not much at a time.

We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He is

burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He doesn't

eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat more then two

times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not want to eat. I

am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

Please feel free to comment...

Patti G.

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti G.,

- In pecanbread , " y2kpg2002 " wrote:

>

> My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

> months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he

has

> always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on the

> SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C

and

> mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He

keeps

> complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such loose

> stools this long??>>>>

Nope.

<<<< Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

> inflammation for over a year.>>>>

Is he taking the singulair chewables - they contain mannitol (sugar

alcohol) which is SCD illegal and can increase harmful microbes

(which could lead to stomach aches)

Some reports online list stomach aches, negative behaviours etc as

possible side effects

http://www.medications.com/se/singulair

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/monteluk_ad.htm

<<< He is now complaining of stomach pain

> alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it

make

> sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

> digestable food?>>>>

If there is something he is unable to digest (food, supplement etc)

it can prevent his gut from healing by feeding harmful microbes.

<<<< I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

> Here is what he is eating.

> scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

> cupcakes,

> hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and

green

> beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

> applesauce, but not much at a time.

> We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

> lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He is

> burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He

doesn't > eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat

more then two > times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not

want to eat. I

> am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

> months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

> Please feel free to comment...

> Patti G.>>>

I think it would be a good idea to restart the intro diet. Since he

is having loose stool 3-4days would be best. Make sure the carrots

are cooked sufficiently (4 hours) and pureed. After the intro

introduce foods again , leaving the green beans until last. Leave

at least 2-3 days bewteen the addition of new foods after the

intro. I would consider stopping the C and Magnesium, he isn't

constipated now and they may be contributing to the pain.

What type of Vit C is he using? - some can cause stomach aches

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

>

> > My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet

> > just shy of 3

> > months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first

> > being that he has

> > always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet.

> > Since being on the

> > SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop

> > his dose of C and

> > mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated

> > again. He keeps

> > complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to

> > have such loose

> > stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of

> > Singulair for stomach

> > inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining

> > of stomach pain

> > alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more

> > pain. Does it make

> > sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is

> > eatng more

> > digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in

> > a long time.

> > Here is what he is eating.

> > scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape

> > juice, chicken

> > cupcakes,

> > hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas,

> > chicken and green

> > beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat

> > cooked

> > applesauce, but not much at a time.

> > We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his

> > stomach is making

> > lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is

> > strained. He is

> > burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough

> > time. He doesn't

> > eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't

> > eat more then two

> > times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not

> > want to eat. I

> > am wondering if I should try a med for the

> > inflammation for a few

> > months until his body adjusts to this new way of

> > eating??

> > Please feel free to comment...

> > Patti G.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>

> Patti,

>

> There are so many variables. It does seem odd that he has had

loose stools all this time.

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I am concerned about his stools. It's odd for a kid who is always

been constipated. Unless he is detoxing and cleaning out?? Not all

of his supplements are 100% legal,and I am slowly trying to do that.

There seems to be a very fine line from loose stools to constipation,

so I am trying to work that out. We do mag. glycinate not Citrate. He

isn't taking acidophilus either. He is so sensitive to so much, I will

just have to keep experimenting and reducing. Yes bananas are always

ripe, and I don't think they are a problem, because when he does feel

bad, the next day, all he will eat is 1/2 a banana and 2 eggs. Thanks

for all the suggestions.

Patti G.

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> Are you absolutely certain all of his supplements are legal? Are

you using magnesium citrate, by any chance? Is he taking acidophilus?

>

> Some kids do not tolerate carrots well. Have you tried pulling

them out? And are you sure your bananas are always nice and ripe?

>

> I'll try to help if I can.

>

> Patti, former pecanbread moderator... & Katera's mom

>

> Re: Increased stomach pain

>

>

> My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

> months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he

has

> always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on

the

> SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C

and

> mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He

keeps

> complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such

loose

> stools this long?? Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for

stomach

> inflammation for over a year. He is now complaining of stomach

pain

> alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it

make

> sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

> digestable food? I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

> Here is what he is eating.

> scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

> cupcakes,

> hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and

green

> beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

> applesauce, but not much at a time.

> We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is making

> lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He

is

> burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He

doesn't

> eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat more then

two

> times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to not want to eat.

I

> am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

> months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

> Please feel free to comment...

> Patti G.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > My 10 year old son Garet has been on the SC diet just shy of 3

> > months now. I have a couple of concerns. The first being that he

> has

> > always been a consitpated kid on the GFCF diet. Since being on

the

> > SCD he has had loose stools. I keep trying to drop his dose of C

> and

> > mag. but certainly don't want him to be constipated again. He

> keeps

> > complaining that his bottom hurts. Is it normal to have such

loose

> > stools this long??>>>>

>

> Nope.

>

> <<<< Also, He has been on 4 mg of Singulair for stomach

> > inflammation for over a year.>>>>

>

> Is he taking the singulair chewables - they contain mannitol (sugar

> alcohol) which is SCD illegal and can increase harmful microbes

> (which could lead to stomach aches)

>

> Some reports online list stomach aches, negative behaviours etc as

> possible side effects

> http://www.medications.com/se/singulair

> http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/monteluk_ad.htm

>

> <<< He is now complaining of stomach pain

> > alot, and behaviors are getting worse due to more pain. Does it

> make

> > sense to have increased stomach pain, when he is eatng more

> > digestable food?>>>>

>

> If there is something he is unable to digest (food, supplement etc)

> it can prevent his gut from healing by feeding harmful microbes.

>

>

> <<<< I haven't seen him feel this bad in a long time.

> > Here is what he is eating.

> > scrambled eggs, squash pancakes, welches grape juice, chicken

> > cupcakes,

> > hamburgers with pureed beans and carrots,bananas, chicken and

> green

> > beans with a little butter. Occasionally he will eat cooked

> > applesauce, but not much at a time.

> > We aren't using any almond flour yet. Also his stomach is

making

> > lots of loud noises, as if his digestive system is strained. He

is

> > burping non-stop and just seems to be having a tough time. He

> doesn't > eat large amounts of food, and some days he doesn't eat

> more then two > times all day. I feel the pain is causing him to

not

> want to eat. I

> > am wondering if I should try a med for the inflammation for a few

> > months until his body adjusts to this new way of eating??

> > Please feel free to comment...

> > Patti G.>>>

>

>

> I think it would be a good idea to restart the intro diet. Since

he

> is having loose stool 3-4days would be best. Make sure the

carrots

> are cooked sufficiently (4 hours) and pureed. After the intro

> introduce foods again , leaving the green beans until last. Leave

> at least 2-3 days bewteen the addition of new foods after the

> intro. I would consider stopping the C and Magnesium, he isn't

> constipated now and they may be contributing to the pain.

>

> What type of Vit C is he using? - some can cause stomach aches

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Patti G.,

You said:

<<Not all

of his supplements are 100% legal,and I am slowly trying to do that.>>

I have to be honest with you.... until you do get the supps 100% legal, you

won't make headway on SCD. I know it's not what you want to hear, but that's

just a fact. And you've got to be using some source of (legal) probiotics with

this diet.

Patti

[Guest guest]

>

> Patti G.,

> You said:

> <<Not all

> of his supplements are 100% legal,and I am slowly trying to do that.>>

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Ok , I will really work on both, thanks so much...

Patti G.

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>

>

> I have to be honest with you.... until you do get the supps 100%

legal, you won't make headway on SCD. I know it's not what you want to

hear, but that's just a fact. And you've got to be using some source

of (legal) probiotics with this diet.

>

> Patti

>

>