Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hello, I am about to go on the diet with my daughter and am currently incorporating some of Donna Gates' Body Ecology Diet (for myself). This has helped tremendously with my IBS and how I feel, but it's not " it " 100% for me, which is why I am going to try SCD. My question: BED emphasizes food combining for maximum digestion. Ex: Fruits eaten alone, no starches with protein, etc... When I was going through some of the recipes on the Pecan Bread site , I noticed that fruit is mixed with a lot of things. Knowing that fruit digests best by itself, how could this be something that helps the gut? Thanks so much. :-) tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I can't say as I don't subscribe to food combining, but what I will say is that if you do read " Breaking the Vicious Cycle " you will see that the Body Ecology Diet is MUCH much harder on the digestive system. I believe the science behind BTVC is much more sound (I am a former medical editor). In the beginning however you are drinking watered fruit juices alone. B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com > Hello, I am about to go on the diet with my > daughter and am currently > incorporating some of Donna Gates' Body Ecology Diet > (for myself). > This has helped tremendously with my IBS and how I > feel, but it's > not " it " 100% for me, which is why I am going to try > SCD. My > question: BED emphasizes food combining for maximum > digestion. Ex: > Fruits eaten alone, no starches with protein, etc... > When I was going > through some of the recipes on the Pecan Bread site > , I noticed that > fruit is mixed with a lot of things. Knowing that > fruit digests best > by itself, how could this be something that helps > the gut? Thanks so > much. :-) tara > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I'll jump in on this one as I started food combining in the early 90s and did not hear about BED or SCD until more recent years. In my personal experience, SCD does work even better when food is also combined " properly. " I do not like how I feel (gassy) when I eat any of the recipes that combine fruit with vegetables or proteins, yet I feel good when I eat all of the same ingredients separately. For my kids, instead of no fruit whatsoever (due to yeast), fruit *only on an empty stomach* worked just as well & it works for me too. One time I did serve them a special dessert after dinner that did mix fruit and protein and they were tooting all through their bedtime story!. For you -- give it a try and compare how you feel. You will know after one meal if it improves things. Food combining in no way violates SCD rules. Some also rotate SCD & see better results with that extra effort, although most do not. BTW, I find it interesting that Sally Fallon's research led her to declare that food combining was NOT a normal practice of disease-free primitive cultures (therefore not really natural or necessary like some say), but it has been found to help speed healing in modern-day sick people with weak digestion. Therefore I also have wondered why Elaine didn't include it in SCD, as it is very much related to the carb fermentation issue (anyone know?). - S Bridges wrote: I can't say as I don't subscribe to food combining, but what I will say is that if you do read " Breaking the Vicious Cycle " you will see that the Body Ecology Diet is MUCH much harder on the digestive system. I believe the science behind BTVC is much more sound (I am a former medical editor). In the beginning however you are drinking watered fruit juices alone. B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com > Hello, I am about to go on the diet with my > daughter and am currently > incorporating some of Donna Gates' Body Ecology Diet > (for myself). > This has helped tremendously with my IBS and how I > feel, but it's > not " it " 100% for me, which is why I am going to try > SCD. My > question: BED emphasizes food combining for maximum > digestion. Ex: > Fruits eaten alone, no starches with protein, etc... > When I was going > through some of the recipes on the Pecan Bread site > , I noticed that > fruit is mixed with a lot of things. Knowing that > fruit digests best > by itself, how could this be something that helps > the gut? Thanks so > much. :-) tara > > __________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Welcome to the group Tara, > > Hello, I am about to go on the diet with my daughter and am currently incorporating some of Donna Gates' Body Ecology Diet (for myself). > This has helped tremendously with my IBS and how I feel, but it's > not " it " 100% for me, which is why I am going to try SCD. My > question: BED emphasizes food combining for maximum digestion. Ex: > Fruits eaten alone, no starches with protein, etc... When I was going through some of the recipes on the Pecan Bread site , I noticed that fruit is mixed with a lot of things. Knowing that fruit digests best by itself, how could this be something that helps the gut? Thanks so much. :-) tara>>>> In a healthy individual fruit by itself may digest better but when the digestive system isn't working properly having fruit with proteins or other legal foods may be better tolerated. There are other health issues that also benefit from mixing fruits with other foods. Diabetes, hypoglycemia. I had low blood sugar preSCD, but if I ate fruit alone or juice by itself I would get stomach aches, dizziness, diarrhea etc... Having the fruit or juice with another food (cheese, eggs , etc...) was tolerated much better. Since SCD I don't get the wild drops in blood sugar but I still feel much better when I have fruits with other foods. In case you are using the BED's green coconut kefir it's best to know that this is not " legal " on the SCD. That is because the Green coconut is unripe and these unripe compounds (even when made into kefir) can feed the microbes that you want to starve with SCD. Cultured veggies and cultured dairy (yogurt) are legal with SCD . You can find details on these at http://pecanbread.com/new/fermented1.html http://pecanbread.com/new/yogurt1.html Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hi , > > I'll jump in on this one as I started food combining in the early 90s and did not hear about BED or SCD until more recent years. In my personal experience, SCD does work even better when food is also combined " properly. " > > I do not like how I feel (gassy) when I eat any of the recipes that combine fruit with vegetables or proteins, yet I feel good when I eat all of the same ingredients separately. For my kids, instead of no fruit whatsoever (due to yeast), fruit *only on an empty stomach* worked just as well & it works for me too. One time I did serve them a special dessert after dinner that did mix fruit and protein and they were tooting all through their bedtime story!. For you -- give it a try and compare how you feel. You will know after one meal if it improves things. Food combining in no way violates SCD rules. Some also rotate SCD & see better results with that extra effort, although most do not. > > BTW, I find it interesting that Sally Fallon's research led her to declare that food combining was NOT a normal practice of disease- free primitive cultures (therefore not really natural or necessary like some say), but it has been found to help speed healing in modern- day sick people with weak digestion. Therefore I also have wondered why Elaine didn't include it in SCD, as it is very much related to the carb fermentation issue (anyone know?). > > ->>>>> I don't know specifically why but I will 'hazard a guess'. Although many of the problems on the diet are similar each person tolerates foods at different times, in different ways and in different combinations. If she had restricted people into only eating their legal fruits (or other foods) separately, people like myself would not have been able to tolerate that entire section of the diet. In other words, what may work for some doesn't necessarily work for all. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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