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Okay, I am going nuts here.  My kids are *constantly* wanting something to

eat.  I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do laundry, but stand in my

kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy their hunger.  Oh, and don't forget be

independently wealthy.  My 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three

eggs earlier.  Just today.  This cannot be healthy!  He's also had two

muffins, 1/2 can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie

when he first got up.   Now that I write that it doesn't seem like much.

 I've told them I don't want them eating just the eggs and hamburger patties,

but eggs are quick and he can make them himself so he went ahead and did just

that.  I'm still learning the ropes here, plus trying to heal myself.  I made

15 muffins from BTVC earlier--there are four left.  I hid them in the

freezer.  I have to hide cans of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I

bring them in the door.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  I know they're

all guys and I don't get hungry as often as they do.  Anyone have any ideas

around this?  I guess I'm going to have to stockpile some of those button

things or mass-produce muffins or something!!  Aarggh!!!  Sorry to

vent/rant...just frustrated.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds  ASD, OCD, bipolar  10yo ds  ADHD, bipolar   6yo ds  NT, severe

constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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I am very new to this diet and my kids are very young, so I don't

know if I will be much help. So far they liked the butternut fries,

slicing the squash like french fries and baking til golden and

crip....also peeling a carrot and frying it til crispy, or the peanut

butter brownies, and jello, maybe filling in with some of these

snacks between the protien meals would fill them up more. I would be

careful about too many muffins and eggs. It's hard to find things

that are soft isn't it. It sound like your kids are growing! Getting

enough liquids into kids is sometimes hard too, but also may help.

Good luck,

sandy

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> Okay, I am going nuts here.  My kids are *constantly* wanting

something to eat.  I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do

laundry, but stand in my kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy

their hunger.  Oh, and don't forget be independently wealthy.  My

10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three eggs earlier. 

Just today.  This cannot be healthy!  He's also had two muffins,

1/2 can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie

when he first got up.   Now that I write that it doesn't seem like

much.  I've told them I don't want them eating just the eggs and

hamburger patties, but eggs are quick and he can make them himself so

he went ahead and did just that.  I'm still learning the ropes here,

plus trying to heal myself.  I made 15 muffins from BTVC earlier--

there are four left.  I hid them in the freezer.  I have to hide

cans of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in

the door.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  I know they're all

guys and I don't get hungry as often as they do.  Anyone have any

ideas around this?  I guess I'm going to have to stockpile some of

those button things or mass-produce muffins or something!!  Aarggh!!!

  Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

>

> Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

>

> 15yo ds  ASD, OCD, bipolar  10yo ds  ADHD, bipolar   6yo ds 

NT, severe constipation

>

> All SCD since 11/4/2007

>

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Cathe,

I'm with you there! My 8 y/o eats (by himself) 20 lbs of carrots, 1 dozen eggs,

6 lbs ground beef, 3 lbs fish, 12 lbs of chicken, 8 lbs. of green beans, 12 lbs

of pears(sauced), 2 butternut squash, and 10 bananas in addition to little odds

and ends EVERY week. He is only 8 y/o! My grocery bill once I got him on SCD

went from $450/mo to $1000-$1500 per month. The huge increase is ONLY food for

my son; my husband and I usually eat whatever we can scrape up (with the

occasional nice meal) because we can't afford it. We don't get pastured chicken

or wild caught salmon or pastured beef either - can't afford them. I'm in the

process of trying to whittle things down so we can live when all of our savings

are gone (about 4 months).

On the time cooking. . . I homeschool my son at the kitchen table. I really

would like to have a kitchen table back, but this is how I survive. When I get

him going on an assignment he can doby himself for a few minutes I take that

time to core, peel slice, cook and puree pears. I cook part of the time he is

schooling most days. I cook 6 lbs of meatloaf once a week. I also cook in bulk

and always have some cooked fish, meatloaf pieces, pearsauce and carrots frozen

in sandwich bags at all times so if I get caught in a pinch and need something

to go with me or ran out of time to get more cooked. He eats so much that I

could never cook an entire meal for him 3 times a day. Cooking in bulk and

freezing meal sized portions is the only way I survive. That was a tip from the

pecanbread website that I found INVALUABLE!

Bonita

Kids always hungry

Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are *constantly* wanting something to

eat. I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do laundry, but stand in my

kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be

independently wealthy. My 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three

eggs earlier. Just today. This cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins,

1/2 can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie when he

first got up. Now that I write that it doesn't seem like much. I've told them

I don't want them eating just the eggs and hamburger patties, but eggs are quick

and he can make them himself so he went ahead and did just that. I'm still

learning the ropes here, plus trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from

BTVC earlier--there are four left. I hid them in the freezer. I have to hide

cans of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in the door. I

don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know they're all guys and I don't get hungry

as often as they do. Anyone have any ideas around this? I guess I'm going to

have to stockpile some of those button things or mass-produce muffins or

something!! Aarggh!!! Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar 6yo ds NT, severe

constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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Cathe,

Also, I have to feed him something about every 2 hours most of the time, but not

all the time. I do 3 really big meals and good sized snacks in between. That

Kids always hungry

Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are *constantly* wanting something to

eat. I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do laundry, but stand in my

kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be

independently wealthy. My 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three

eggs earlier. Just today. This cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins,

1/2 can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie when he

first got up. Now that I write that it doesn't seem like much. I've told them

I don't want them eating just the eggs and hamburger patties, but eggs are quick

and he can make them himself so he went ahead and did just that. I'm still

learning the ropes here, plus trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from

BTVC earlier--there are four left. I hid them in the freezer. I have to hide

cans of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in the door. I

don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know they're all guys and I don't get hungry

as often as they do. Anyone have any ideas around this? I guess I'm going to

have to stockpile some of those button things or mass-produce muffins or

something!! Aarggh!!! Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar 6yo ds NT, severe

constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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My 7 year old can go thru several dozen eggs a week, between

scrambled eggs and nut butter muffins (he would eat those endlessly

and eats several a day -- how many is it OK to eat). He can easily

consume 5 eggs scrambled(with various veg -- zucchini, mushrooms,

carrots, greenbeans etc.) for breakfast, 2 or more organic chicken

legs, apple sauce, banana for lunch, 2 lamb chops or other meat for

dinner with things like 10 asparagus spears. And like I said, always

those nut butter muffins. I also sneak veg into those as well. We

all try to eat as much organic as possible but it is so expensive!

Cooking in bulk is definitely a time saver but there sure are days

when I feel like the more I cook the more he eats! Kim (Henry 7.75,

enterocolitis, esophageal esinophils, and other GI issues, SCD since

mid-Oct. 2007)

>

> Cathe,

>

> I'm with you there! My 8 y/o eats (by himself) 20 lbs of carrots,

1 dozen eggs, 6 lbs ground beef, 3 lbs fish, 12 lbs of chicken, 8

lbs. of green beans, 12 lbs of pears(sauced), 2 butternut squash, and

10 bananas in addition to little odds and ends EVERY week. He is

only 8 y/o! My grocery bill once I got him on SCD went from $450/mo

to $1000-$1500 per month. The huge increase is ONLY food for my son;

my husband and I usually eat whatever we can scrape up (with the

occasional nice meal) because we can't afford it. We don't get

pastured chicken or wild caught salmon or pastured beef either -

can't afford them. I'm in the process of trying to whittle things

down so we can live when all of our savings are gone (about 4 months).

>

> On the time cooking. . . I homeschool my son at the kitchen table.

I really would like to have a kitchen table back, but this is how I

survive. When I get him going on an assignment he can doby himself

for a few minutes I take that time to core, peel slice, cook and

puree pears. I cook part of the time he is schooling most days. I

cook 6 lbs of meatloaf once a week. I also cook in bulk and always

have some cooked fish, meatloaf pieces, pearsauce and carrots frozen

in sandwich bags at all times so if I get caught in a pinch and need

something to go with me or ran out of time to get more cooked. He

eats so much that I could never cook an entire meal for him 3 times a

day. Cooking in bulk and freezing meal sized portions is the only

way I survive. That was a tip from the pecanbread website that I

found INVALUABLE!

>

> Bonita

>

> Kids always hungry

>

>

>

>

> Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are *constantly* wanting

something to eat. I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do

laundry, but stand in my kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy

their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be independently wealthy. My

10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three eggs earlier.

Just today. This cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins, 1/2

can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie

when he first got up. Now that I write that it doesn't seem like

much. I've told them I don't want them eating just the eggs and

hamburger patties, but eggs are quick and he can make them himself so

he went ahead and did just that. I'm still learning the ropes here,

plus trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from BTVC earlier--

there are four left. I hid them in the freezer. I have to hide cans

of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in the

door. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know they're all guys

and I don't get hungry as often as they do. Anyone have any ideas

around this? I guess I'm going to have to stockpile some of those

button things or mass-produce muffins or something!! Aarggh!!!

Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

>

> Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

>

> 15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar 6yo ds NT,

severe constipation

>

> All SCD since 11/4/2007

>

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My son is four years old and I am on SCD with him. I

am literally starving on many days if I am unprepared

because I have to have enough food for him.

He eats a lot of eggs every day. I give him two hard

boiled eggs for breakfast with applesauce and the egg

" bread " for lunch with cooked veggies. But you have to

keep in mind that all of this food is very low in

calories. An egg only has 70 calories. So when they

say they are starving, they mean it.

My son and I go through 4 dozen eggs, 10 pounds of

carrots, 5 pounds of green beans, 6 pounds of chicken,

5-6 jars of 100 percent applesauce (I cannot afford to

make applesauce anymore, it is too costly, but I

believe it is legal applesauce), a gallon of grape

juice, and 4 pounds of beef every week or so.

If you start calculating the calories out, it will

make more sense to you. An entire batch of the carrot

pancakes (or muffins) I make only has about 300

calories! An average woman needs at bare minimum 1600

calories a day. will eat five of those muffins

at one sitting. He has to, or he will starve.

Many days I barely break 1000 calories. I am not

losing weight anymore because my body is in starvation

mode. So I have to try hard to eat more.

You have to cook in bulk. You can't just cook per

meal. You will go insane.

I use chicken parts (legs, thighs) to make big batches

of soup. I use chicken breasts for chicken salad and I

cook almost four pounds at one time. I boil at least 2

pounds of carrots at once. I make two pans of egg

bread at one time and I give him half a pan's worth

for school every day.

Once we can have more variety, it will be better, but

for now, this is how it has to be.

And if you're wondering why it's all so expensive,

you've got the Farm Bill to blame. The government

subsidizes the farmers that grow corn for HFCS and

animal feed. It is in all processed food and it is

crap nutrition. It is also cheaper than dirt.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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> Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are

> *constantly* wanting something to eat. I would have

> to not homeschool, not clean or do laundry, but

> stand in my kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy

> their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be independently

> wealthy. My 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's

> already had three eggs earlier. Just today. This

> cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins, 1/2

> can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a

> banana smoothie when he first got up. Now that I

> write that it doesn't seem like much. I've told

> them I don't want them eating just the eggs and

> hamburger patties, but eggs are quick and he can

> make them himself so he went ahead and did just

> that. I'm still learning the ropes here, plus

> trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from BTVC

> earlier--there are four left. I hid them in the

> freezer. I have to hide cans of pineapple or they

> will eat them as soon as I bring them in the door.

> I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know they're

> all guys and I don't get hungry as often as they

> do. Anyone have any ideas around this? I guess I'm

> going to have to stockpile some of those button

> things or mass-produce muffins or something!!

> Aarggh!!! Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

>

> Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

>

> 15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

> 6yo ds NT, severe constipation

>

> All SCD since 11/4/2007

>

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Hi all,

I'm an adult doing SCD but wanted to chime in on the 'eating all the time'

phase. I did the same thing when I started and continued to do so for

several months. I was not maintaining anything before SCD and had a hard

time finding what I could eat. I felt like I was in training to be a body

builder--18 count eggs, two baked chickens, liver because I was anemic plus

lima beans, yogurt, carrots and chicken soup weekly (at least). I would eat

and be hungry again within 30 minutes or it seems like it now.

That phase passes into something more normal. It is kind of funny to see a

lot of messages from people just starting--the expense and the work that

goes into it. It does seem to normalize. Going from someone not hungry and

not eating or eating then getting sick to eating and loving grocery shopping

is a trip. Hopefully the moderators can chime in on why this happens.

Debbie 38 crohn's

scd 11 months

> My 7 year old can go thru several dozen eggs a week, between

> scrambled eggs and nut butter muffins (he would eat those endlessly

> and eats several a day -- how many is it OK to eat). He can easily

> consume 5 eggs scrambled(with various veg -- zucchini, mushrooms,

> carrots, greenbeans etc.) for breakfast, 2 or more organic chicken

> legs, apple sauce, banana for lunch, 2 lamb chops or other meat for

> dinner with things like 10 asparagus spears. And like I said, always

> those nut butter muffins. I also sneak veg into those as well. We

> all try to eat as much organic as possible but it is so expensive!

> Cooking in bulk is definitely a time saver but there sure are days

> when I feel like the more I cook the more he eats! Kim (Henry 7.75,

> enterocolitis, esophageal esinophils, and other GI issues, SCD since

> mid-Oct. 2007)

>

>

>

> >

> > Cathe,

> >

> > I'm with you there! My 8 y/o eats (by himself) 20 lbs of carrots,

> 1 dozen eggs, 6 lbs ground beef, 3 lbs fish, 12 lbs of chicken, 8

> lbs. of green beans, 12 lbs of pears(sauced), 2 butternut squash, and

> 10 bananas in addition to little odds and ends EVERY week. He is

> only 8 y/o! My grocery bill once I got him on SCD went from $450/mo

> to $1000-$1500 per month. The huge increase is ONLY food for my son;

> my husband and I usually eat whatever we can scrape up (with the

> occasional nice meal) because we can't afford it. We don't get

> pastured chicken or wild caught salmon or pastured beef either -

> can't afford them. I'm in the process of trying to whittle things

> down so we can live when all of our savings are gone (about 4 months).

> >

> > On the time cooking. . . I homeschool my son at the kitchen table.

> I really would like to have a kitchen table back, but this is how I

> survive. When I get him going on an assignment he can doby himself

> for a few minutes I take that time to core, peel slice, cook and

> puree pears. I cook part of the time he is schooling most days. I

> cook 6 lbs of meatloaf once a week. I also cook in bulk and always

> have some cooked fish, meatloaf pieces, pearsauce and carrots frozen

> in sandwich bags at all times so if I get caught in a pinch and need

> something to go with me or ran out of time to get more cooked. He

> eats so much that I could never cook an entire meal for him 3 times a

> day. Cooking in bulk and freezing meal sized portions is the only

> way I survive. That was a tip from the pecanbread website that I

> found INVALUABLE!

> >

> > Bonita

> >

> > Kids always hungry

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are *constantly* wanting

> something to eat. I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do

> laundry, but stand in my kitchen and cook all day long to satisfy

> their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be independently wealthy. My

> 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three eggs earlier.

> Just today. This cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins, 1/2

> can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie

> when he first got up. Now that I write that it doesn't seem like

> much. I've told them I don't want them eating just the eggs and

> hamburger patties, but eggs are quick and he can make them himself so

> he went ahead and did just that. I'm still learning the ropes here,

> plus trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from BTVC earlier--

> there are four left. I hid them in the freezer. I have to hide cans

> of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in the

> door. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know they're all guys

> and I don't get hungry as often as they do. Anyone have any ideas

> around this? I guess I'm going to have to stockpile some of those

> button things or mass-produce muffins or something!! Aarggh!!!

> Sorry to vent/rant...just frustrated.

> >

> > Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

> >

> > 15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar 6yo ds NT,

> severe constipation

> >

> > All SCD since 11/4/2007

> >

> >

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Yes! My 4 year old will eat ½ to 1 pound of ground meat at a meal (I buy

ground lamb, pork, buffalo, turkey, chicken, beef to make sausages or

hamburgers for breakfast and lunches). It’s insane and so expensive, but his

appetite seems to be waning a bit after 3 months—thank God!

Haven’t found a remedy for the cost, but my secret for the cooking time is

the crock pot. In the morning I put about 4 pounds of meat (whole chicken,

turkey thighs, pot roast, pork roast, leg of lamb--whatever we’re doing that

day) in the crock pot on low and let it cook all day (8-9 hours). No

seasoning, nothing but meat. Then I cook frozen veggies to go with it for

dinner. We salt it at the table (or not, some meats don’t really need it).

Sometimes I start with carrots on the bottom and add water to make broth for

soup. My point is that it takes all of 1-3 minutes to prepare in the morning

and I’m done with dinner before they’re off to school. I also use the crock

pot for winter squash (wash outside and put them in whole—so much easier to

cut once they’re cooked—and cooled) and have been roasting heads of garlic

too. It’s great for soups. I store the garlic in the fridge in an airtight

container and pull out a few cloves for my soup. Yummy.

Holly

4yo ASD, 6yo asthma and food allergies, me and hubby all SCD for 12 weeks

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I have received lots of wonderful support and advice from many

listmembers (whom I will thank sometime today) but I think you boiled

it all down for me:

>

> You have to cook in bulk. You can't just cook per

> meal. You will go insane.

SO, so true....I will start doing that. It doesn't help that we just

moved here recently from across the state, I'm still unpacking and

not quite on schedule yet, but I am feeling better, so are the boys,

so that's a good thing.

As for the HFCS comment below, I just want to say that yesterday, my

youngest (who is six and who aspires to be a chef), received in the

mail a booklet of recipes from Karo corn syrup. My mother sent this

to him, I have no doubt. We were at her house for Thanksgiving

dinner nearly two weeks ago, before the actual day. I had told her I

was making our own food, that we were on a new diet to help the

boys. I brought our food and my dh ate hers, but we ate ours except

we did eat her turkey. Apparently, that miffed her, as she's been

very cool to me since. She got two trays of Christmas cookies (with

frosting!) out and asked my boys to decorate them. All I could think

of was--she's torturing them! My mother is an old Italian mamma, and

you just don't mess with their sense of food, I guess. She's also

seeming to be quite narcissistic and self-absorbed and cruel. (Not a

new realization for me, just a resurfacing.) WHY would she send this

little boy a recipe book of corn syrup recipes? I hid it. I mean,

someday he'll maybe be off the diet and he can substitute honey for

CS, but I was so appalled. I just don't understand. Oh, yeah, after

we left her house, the boys told me she had referred to us and our

food as 'they're eating their own crap.' Nice...

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

> And if you're wondering why it's all so expensive,

> you've got the Farm Bill to blame. The government

> subsidizes the farmers that grow corn for HFCS and

> animal feed. It is in all processed food and it is

> crap nutrition. It is also cheaper than dirt.

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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It sound like your kids are growing! Getting

> enough liquids into kids is sometimes hard too, but also may help.

> Good luck,

> sandy

>

Thanks for the ideas, Sandy. More snacks would definitely help. I

forgot to mention that my oldest is 6'7 " and still growing. We just

bought him size 18 shoes! So...yeah, they're still growing, and

they're all big boys to begin with, having started life at over 9 and

10 lbs., every one of them. Whew!

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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Hi Cathe!

> > You have to cook in bulk. You can't just cook per

> > meal. You will go insane.

>

> SO, so true....I will start doing that. It doesn't

> help that we just

> moved here recently from across the state, I'm still

> unpacking and

> not quite on schedule yet, but I am feeling better,

> so are the boys,

> so that's a good thing.

Oh, I hear you. In the beginning I didn't realize I

was making too little of everything. Now at this

point, if I just need one pan of egg bread and there's

not enough eggs for more than that, I won't do it. Why

get everything out and make it for one pan? I need to

make at least two. I still have my days where I feel

exhausted. I work outside the home for 40 hours a week

and I do almost all of the cooking as well. I also

spend several hours a week working on a side business

at home with my husband. Yes, I have no life. LOL.

> My mother is an old

> Italian mamma, and

> you just don't mess with their sense of food, I

> guess.

My Italian grandmother was EXACTLY the same way. I

think if she had still been alive, she might have had

a problem with all of this.

It's hard for me, too. I was raised by Italians and I

am very used to having every holiday revolve around

overeating and baking. It's just part of our heritage.

I am going to find ways of adapting recipes though. I

was so happy when I saw an SCD biscotti recipe! Eating

this way in the beginning can feel very lonely.

> Oh, yeah, after

> we left her house, the boys told me she had referred

> to us and our

> food as 'they're eating their own crap.' Nice...

It's hard. I know. My mother had a hard time

supporting it at first, too, but she's heard me talk

about all the gains has made. It's a little

easier for me because we are 2000 miles away from my

family. My mom thinks I should write a book. I said,

" There's lots of moms like me out there doing this! "

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

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I'm sorry to tell you but this is completely normal behavior for six, ten and

fifteen year old boys. I raised two not on the spectrum, and they both ate like

they were ravinous 24/7. This is actually very good news.

Are you at the point in the diet where you can have black beans? You might

experiment with making a burrito filling that they will eat. Beans are good

sources of protien and don't cost much.

Cathe Schmidt wrote:

Okay, I am going nuts here. My kids are *constantly* wanting something to eat.

I would have to not homeschool, not clean or do laundry, but stand in my kitchen

and cook all day long to satisfy their hunger. Oh, and don't forget be

independently wealthy. My 10yo is now eating two eggs--he's already had three

eggs earlier. Just today. This cannot be healthy! He's also had two muffins,

1/2 can albacore tuna with homemade cooked mayo and a banana smoothie when he

first got up. Now that I write that it doesn't seem like much. I've told them

I don't want them eating just the eggs and hamburger patties, but eggs are quick

and he can make them himself so he went ahead and did just that. I'm still

learning the ropes here, plus trying to heal myself. I made 15 muffins from

BTVC earlier--there are four left. I hid them in the freezer. I have to hide

cans of pineapple or they will eat them as soon as I bring them in the door. I

don't know what I'm doing wrong. I know

they're all guys and I don't get hungry as often as they do. Anyone have any

ideas around this? I guess I'm going to have to stockpile some of those button

things or mass-produce muffins or something!! Aarggh!!! Sorry to

vent/rant...just frustrated.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar 6yo ds NT, severe

constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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> I'm sorry to tell you but this is completely normal behavior for

six, ten and fifteen year old boys. I raised two not on the

spectrum, and they both ate like they were ravinous 24/7. This is

actually very good news.

>

> Are you at the point in the diet where you can have black beans?

You might experiment with making a burrito filling that they will

eat. Beans are good sources of protien and don't cost much.

>

Hi,

Yes, I know this is normal for them to be hungry, but their pickins

are pretty slim right now as we are only partially through Stage 2.

So, no, they can't have the black beans yet. Last night I made a

bread recipe to go with supper which they loved (they love all the

food on this diet) but there never seems to be enough.

Thanks,

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

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Hi Cathe,

I wasn't going to reply but thought that your mom's response was

pretty appalling and decided to 'speak my mind'.

Anytime you want to vent about this type of attitude from anyone -

go right ahead and let it go - I think the vast majority of us on

the list have had these type of comments from friends, families and

others at one time or another. Some days I just smile, count to ten

in my mind and go on with what I am doing. Some days I am not quite

so laid back.

Time will give greater healing to your children and many doubters

will have no choice but give sway to the changes they see. But, be

very careful since some people either actively or mistakenly sabotage

the diet.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

>

> ,

>

> I have received lots of wonderful support and advice from many

> listmembers (whom I will thank sometime today) but I think you

boiled

> it all down for me:

> >

> > You have to cook in bulk. You can't just cook per

> > meal. You will go insane.

>

> SO, so true....I will start doing that. It doesn't help that we

just > moved here recently from across the state, I'm still unpacking

and > not quite on schedule yet, but I am feeling better, so are the

boys,

> so that's a good thing.

>

> As for the HFCS comment below, I just want to say that yesterday,

my > youngest (who is six and who aspires to be a chef), received in

the> mail a booklet of recipes from Karo corn syrup. My mother sent

this > to him, I have no doubt. We were at her house for

Thanksgiving

> dinner nearly two weeks ago, before the actual day. I had told her

I

> was making our own food, that we were on a new diet to help the

> boys. ... I just don't understand. Oh, yeah, after

> we left her house, the boys told me she had referred to us and our

> food as 'they're eating their own crap.' Nice...

>

> Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

> 15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

> 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

> 6yo ds NT, severe constipation

> All SCD since 11/4/2007

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Hi Sheila,

Thank you for your kind words. I'm still trying to decide what to do

for Christmas, because, after a very uncomfortable 'Thanksgiving', my

dh and I don't really want to go through that again. The weird thing

is, my stepfather is diabetic and has been eating 'different' foods

since they've been together (30 years). She doesn't have a problem

with that. Too weird. Thanks again...I really appreciate what you

said.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

> Hi Cathe,

>

> I wasn't going to reply but thought that your mom's response was

> pretty appalling and decided to 'speak my mind'.

>

> Anytime you want to vent about this type of attitude from

anyone -

> go right ahead and let it go - I think the vast majority of us on

> the list have had these type of comments from friends, families and

> others at one time or another. Some days I just smile, count to

ten

> in my mind and go on with what I am doing. Some days I am not

quite

> so laid back.

>

> Time will give greater healing to your children and many doubters

> will have no choice but give sway to the changes they see. But, be

> very careful since some people either actively or mistakenly

sabotage

> the diet.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

>

>

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I have received lots of wonderful support and advice from many

> > listmembers (whom I will thank sometime today) but I think you

> boiled

> > it all down for me:

> > >

> > > You have to cook in bulk. You can't just cook per

> > > meal. You will go insane.

> >

> > SO, so true....I will start doing that. It doesn't help that we

> just > moved here recently from across the state, I'm still

unpacking

> and > not quite on schedule yet, but I am feeling better, so are

the

> boys,

> > so that's a good thing.

> >

> > As for the HFCS comment below, I just want to say that yesterday,

> my > youngest (who is six and who aspires to be a chef), received

in

> the> mail a booklet of recipes from Karo corn syrup. My mother

sent

> this > to him, I have no doubt. We were at her house for

> Thanksgiving

> > dinner nearly two weeks ago, before the actual day. I had told

her

> I

> > was making our own food, that we were on a new diet to help the

> > boys. ... I just don't understand. Oh, yeah, after

> > we left her house, the boys told me she had referred to us and

our

> > food as 'they're eating their own crap.' Nice...

> >

> > Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

> > 15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

> > 10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

> > 6yo ds NT, severe constipation

> > All SCD since 11/4/2007

>

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Cathe,

I'm in the same boat . I have twin boys that will be 15 in February...and

they are hungry all the time. I was to the point I couldn't cook fast

enough..they'd be hovering over the stove as their veggie burgers were cooking

and I

couldn't peel and saute apples fast enough... I didn't realize how much they

ate throughout the day (before I controlled what went into their bodies.)

as they had a junk drawer in the house that they snacked from during the day

( granola bars, Oreo cookies, gold fish.etc...the thought just makes me wince

now)

When I finally got my head wrapped around the SCD cooking..things got soo

much easier...I cook not in bulk but ...Ginormously!!! I bought 10 pounds of

ground pork at Jimbos yesterday...3 pounds of french green beans 3 bags of

frozen peas 5 dozen eggs and 3 fryers...cooked it all up and instead of making

individual burger patties - threw everything together meatloaf style in 3

large glass/pyrex pans in the top oven and cooked the birds in the bottom

oven. I'm planning on boiling a bunch of eggs and then maybe a bunch of

frittata's ... my boys eat the meatloaf like it's chocolate chip cookies...and

this comes from kids that ate only chicken nuggets and french fries. The

meatloaf with the pureed veggies is very filling...we also put homemade ketchup

on

as well..

I think you sort to have to think outside the box when scd cooking - before

scd - I normally cooked only for each meal - and then very proportionally -

not now it's like cooking for a cafeteria!

It's more difficult for you since you are homeschooling - you have them all

the time - my guys go off to school with their lunches packed - so I can see

how you're being eaten out of house and home.

Try the meatloafs - they are huge and filling!

Cherie - crohns 8 yrs

Connr & 14 asd SCD Sept/07

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> It's more difficult for you since you are homeschooling - you have

them all

> the time - my guys go off to school with their lunches packed - so

I can see

> how you're being eaten out of house and home.

>

> Try the meatloafs - they are huge and filling!

>

> Cherie - crohns 8 yrs

> Connr & 14 asd SCD Sept/07

>

>

Hi Cherie,

Where is this recipe? In the book or on pecanbread? It sounds

awesome. Tonight my middle son wanted to help me in the kitchen. We

cooked nearly two pounds of chicken, then mixed it with green beans,

asparagus, tomatoes and red, orange and yellow bell peppers I had run

through a food mill. Added some SCD ketchup. We put some cumin in

at the table. It was delicious, but they're now eating eggs after we

all had a hamburger, too. I didn't get very much from the food mill,

except for the tomatoes. I've been just feeding them the green beans

without deseeding and haven't noticed any problems, but wanted to do

it 'right'. I'm still not sure--can we have fresh veggie juice in

Stage 2? Giving them all those vitamins might help them not be so

hungry all day long. I'll be very happy when we're through the

initial stages...it is wearing on me, for sure. Thanks for sharing

about what you do. Cooking en masse sounds very, very smart.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, homeschooling mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

SCD one month today

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