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Hello,

I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better source. You moms are the

best!

My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not potty trained yet. I've tried

many times what I used to potty train her sister with no success.

Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a good time to give it a shot.

Do any of you have ideas to share?

Your help is very appreciated.

Ximena

's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

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Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years old

and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

set of sheets before giving up and going back to

Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

My son has mild autism, but we trained him first with

a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit. A

lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact that

is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go to

the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

never cared.

Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids are

comfortable going number one in the potty and not

number two. :)

More info please! :)

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> Hello,

> I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> source. You moms are the best!

> My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I used

> to potty train her sister with no success.

> Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a

> good time to give it a shot.

> Do any of you have ideas to share?

> Your help is very appreciated.

>

> Ximena

> 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

>

>

>

>

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i think we could have a yahoo group just for this topic. ;)

my son is nearing 4 and sometimes he will go to the potty and sometimes he

screams and

cries.

he loves to SIT on his little potty in his room, and sometimes he goes and

sometimes he

doesn't.

sometimes he goes in his pullup (pee and poop) and sometimes his pullup is dry.

he never goes in his pullup at night, only during the day.

and i also think some of his supplements may promote incontinence.

we are a little burnt out with working on it for more than a year, but i think

we are ready

for another big push, but we need a PLAN. so i am eager to hear what others say.

xo

maggie

>

> Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years old

> and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

> not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

> set of sheets before giving up and going back to

> Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

>

> My son has mild autism, but we trained him first with

> a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit. A

> lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact that

> is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go to

> the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

>

> What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

> knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

> never cared.

>

> Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids are

> comfortable going number one in the potty and not

> number two. :)

>

> More info please! :)

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

>

>

>

> > Hello,

> > I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> > source. You moms are the best!

> > My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> > potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I used

> > to potty train her sister with no success.

> > Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a

> > good time to give it a shot.

> > Do any of you have ideas to share?

> > Your help is very appreciated.

> >

> > Ximena

> > 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I don't think she's afraid of the toilet. I use one of those rings and she sits

there with no problem. She actually doesn't like the potty chairs. I think she

finds them very uncomfortable.

The problem is that she doesn't seem to know when she's going and as your son,

she doesn't care if she's wet unless it's really bad. The funny thing is that

her diaper is usually dry when she wakes up and sometimes I can get her to go

the bathroom on time.

As I said she's understanding a little more now, so I sit her on the toilet and

wait there patiently, playing with her or trying to make her stay there until

she goes, but she gets tired and sometimes she goes right after I put her diaper

on again :)

I don't really know what else to do. She's non-verbal and can not tell when she

wants to go, anyway.

Any ideas?

Ximena

Re: OT: Potty training ideas

Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years old

and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

set of sheets before giving up and going back to

Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

My son has mild autism, but we trained him first with

a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit. A

lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact that

is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go to

the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

never cared.

Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids are

comfortable going number one in the potty and not

number two. :)

More info please! :)

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> Hello,

> I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> source. You moms are the best!

> My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I used

> to potty train her sister with no success.

> Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a

> good time to give it a shot.

> Do any of you have ideas to share?

> Your help is very appreciated.

>

> Ximena

> 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

>

>

>

>

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Is there an SCD food you can use as a reward? That is

probably what I would do. Sit her on the toilet, tell

her that when she goes she can have ___ food. Make it

a bite-sized piece. Then when she goes in the toilet,

make a HUGE deal about it. Clap and smile and say,

" Yay! " if she responds to that (my son LOVES praise).

Then give her the treat. Food was a great motivator

for my son as well. He is stage 2 and adores the nut

butter brownies for example.

Keep in mind that she may understand more than you

think she does. My son was not very verbal until

recently (lots of nonsensical echolalia) and he

remembers EVERYTHING (I mean everything).

Are you using some form of sign language? That would

help too for the future, once she figures out what you

want her to do. You can even make it up.

Another thing you can do (over a weekend when you're

in the house) is go diaperless so you can SEE when she

starts to go. Then grab her and put her on the toilet.

I don't recommend that long term, but it does help get

the idea across. LOL.

Also over a weekend, just pump her full of liquids and

sit her on the toilet every hour. It can be

exhausting, but some kids catch on very quickly that

way.

Hope that helps!

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> I don't think she's afraid of the toilet. I use one

> of those rings and she sits there with no problem.

> She actually doesn't like the potty chairs. I think

> she finds them very uncomfortable.

> The problem is that she doesn't seem to know when

> she's going and as your son, she doesn't care if

> she's wet unless it's really bad. The funny thing is

> that her diaper is usually dry when she wakes up and

> sometimes I can get her to go the bathroom on time.

> As I said she's understanding a little more now, so

> I sit her on the toilet and wait there patiently,

> playing with her or trying to make her stay there

> until she goes, but she gets tired and sometimes she

> goes right after I put her diaper on again :)

> I don't really know what else to do. She's

> non-verbal and can not tell when she wants to go,

> anyway.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Ximena

> Re: OT: Potty training ideas

>

> Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years

> old

> and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

> not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

> set of sheets before giving up and going back to

> Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

>

> My son has mild autism, but we trained him first

> with

> a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit.

> A

> lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact

> that

> is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go

> to

> the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

>

> What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

> knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

> never cared.

>

> Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids

> are

> comfortable going number one in the potty and not

> number two. :)

>

> More info please! :)

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

>

> > Hello,

> > I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> > source. You moms are the best!

> > My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> > potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I

> used

> > to potty train her sister with no success.

> > Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is

> a

> > good time to give it a shot.

> > Do any of you have ideas to share?

> > Your help is very appreciated.

> >

> > Ximena

> > 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I wrote a book published in 2002 called Dancing in Cornmeal: Life with Autism

(still available through all large book retailers) in which I dedicated a whole

chapter to our potty training adventure. But, being you're an SCD comrade, I'll

give you the double-secret gist of what worked for us. ;-)

Our daughter, , was 7yo and non-verbal, considered low-functioning, when

we took the potty-training bull by the horns. My husband took a week off work

to be support and so we could focus on the task, and was fully " #1 "

trained in only a few days. That week, we made the bathroom our hang out place.

(Our only bathroom at the time had floor space of about 5'x4', so no complaints

if your bathroom is small.) We retired the GoodNites during the day, and

wore dresses with no undies. We brought books and toys in there (and cups of

water to drink!), and she sat on the floor to read books and play with us. When

she acted like she had to pee, we put her on the pot, but she held it out of

fear. The first day or two, she did pee on someone's lap twice. The first

successful pee in the pot finally came when we knew she had to go because she

had held it so long and was acting very nervous about it. We physically held

her on the toilet (yes, against her will--she struggled while we spoke to her

lovingly and reassuringly about what we were doing) until the flow came. I

spoke to her happily and peacefully (key for her) while she was going, then as

soon as she was done, we went into the rest of the house and excitedly bragged

to the rest of the family about what she had done. Daddy instantly rewarded her

with her favorite thing--a helium balloon. (Yes, we bought a helium balloon

tank for the occasion.) After a very short celebration, it was back to the

bathroom. She had her 2nd pee again with me holding her on the toilet, and she

instantly went out, we bragged, and she got another balloon. And that was that.

From that point forward, she was going on her own. After a few times, the

helium balloons became old hat (after all, there were a few hanging around the

house at that point, so a new one wasn't that big a deal) so that was an easily

faded reward. And since that week, she has gone to the bathroom independently

every time she has felt the urge. To this day, we still need to go in there and

help her when she's done, for proper hygiene, but I know lots of ASD kids who

are trip-trained, never self-initiate going, and have a lot of accidents. So,

we count our blessings.

Now, #2 and night-time were more difficult, but the first and biggest hurdle was

#1, so when you get through that, we'll talk again. ;-) Feel free to email me

off-list with specific questions.

Nannette, SCD 26 months for IBS

daughter, , 15yo, SCD 26 months for ASD

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Hi Ximena,

My son was the same way. He would sit on the toilet fine but would not go until

I put back his diaper. What happened one day for me is that he use to go

swimming every day (in the summer) and he always drank a lot of pool water(

which is really really bad anyway, but that's another topic) and I would sit him

on the toilet and would not go until I took him off. One day I decided I was

going to wait it out. I gave him some books he liked to entertain him and we

waited for about 15 minutes until he could not hold it any longer. He went pee

pee in the potty for the first time. Since then he understood that he can pee

in the toilet. He is still not potty trained completly but we are in the

process. I have to take him potty every hour to make sure he does not get wet

but even then he still pees in his pull up. My point is that for him it only

took him once to see what he was supposed to do on the potty to understand.

Another option may be " modeling "

. Have you tried showing her with her sister? just an idea.

good luck

fina

Re: OT: Potty training ideas

Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years old

and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

set of sheets before giving up and going back to

Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

My son has mild autism, but we trained him first with

a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit. A

lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact that

is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go to

the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

never cared.

Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids are

comfortable going number one in the potty and not

number two. :)

More info please! :)

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> Hello,

> I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> source. You moms are the best!

> My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I used

> to potty train her sister with no success.

> Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a

> good time to give it a shot.

> Do any of you have ideas to share?

> Your help is very appreciated.

>

> Ximena

> 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

>

>

>

>

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I think you have gotten some great advice...The diapers are probably

preventing her from realizing when she is really wet. If you can

devote several days to diaper free living -- either bare-bottomed or

regular underwear on, she may learn what wet feels like pretty

quickly (and how unpleasant that can be).

However, she also may not be ready yet if she is not realizing when

she needs to go. When my son was right around 3 we decided to try to

train him -- I put him in cute underwear and he pee'd thru 3 pairs of

undies in 20 minutes (no kidding), at which point he

announced, " These pants don't work! " We tried the underwear approach

and bare as well for a few days but he just wasn't getting it (he

would use the toilet if we put him there). Now, this next part is

gonna sound like a brag and I don't mean it that way at all, I want

to show what a difference a little time makes...At 3 yrs. 5 months he

literally woke up one morning and said, " I need to use the potty " and

was day and night trained from that day forward with very few

accidents, even at night. I know we are lucky and that most kids

esp. are not night trained so quickly. But I really feel that he was

not ready at 3 and a few months later his body was really ready. 4

is still wellwithin the realm of when even totally typical kids may

not be ready (I read in some parenting mag last year that many

typical boys are not trained until 6 now). So, I would try many of

the methods recommended by folks here, but if she is not getting it,

take a breather and try again in a couple of months.

HTH, Kim

>

> Is there an SCD food you can use as a reward? That is

> probably what I would do. Sit her on the toilet, tell

> her that when she goes she can have ___ food. Make it

> a bite-sized piece. Then when she goes in the toilet,

> make a HUGE deal about it. Clap and smile and say,

> " Yay! " if she responds to that (my son LOVES praise).

> Then give her the treat. Food was a great motivator

> for my son as well. He is stage 2 and adores the nut

> butter brownies for example.

>

> Keep in mind that she may understand more than you

> think she does. My son was not very verbal until

> recently (lots of nonsensical echolalia) and he

> remembers EVERYTHING (I mean everything).

>

> Are you using some form of sign language? That would

> help too for the future, once she figures out what you

> want her to do. You can even make it up.

>

> Another thing you can do (over a weekend when you're

> in the house) is go diaperless so you can SEE when she

> starts to go. Then grab her and put her on the toilet.

> I don't recommend that long term, but it does help get

> the idea across. LOL.

>

> Also over a weekend, just pump her full of liquids and

> sit her on the toilet every hour. It can be

> exhausting, but some kids catch on very quickly that

> way.

>

> Hope that helps!

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

>

>

> > I don't think she's afraid of the toilet. I use one

> > of those rings and she sits there with no problem.

> > She actually doesn't like the potty chairs. I think

> > she finds them very uncomfortable.

> > The problem is that she doesn't seem to know when

> > she's going and as your son, she doesn't care if

> > she's wet unless it's really bad. The funny thing is

> > that her diaper is usually dry when she wakes up and

> > sometimes I can get her to go the bathroom on time.

> > As I said she's understanding a little more now, so

> > I sit her on the toilet and wait there patiently,

> > playing with her or trying to make her stay there

> > until she goes, but she gets tired and sometimes she

> > goes right after I put her diaper on again :)

> > I don't really know what else to do. She's

> > non-verbal and can not tell when she wants to go,

> > anyway.

> >

> > Any ideas?

> >

> > Ximena

> > Re: OT: Potty training ideas

> >

> > Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years

> > old

> > and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

> > not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

> > set of sheets before giving up and going back to

> > Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

> >

> > My son has mild autism, but we trained him first

> > with

> > a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit.

> > A

> > lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact

> > that

> > is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go

> > to

> > the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

> >

> > What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

> > knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

> > never cared.

> >

> > Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids

> > are

> > comfortable going number one in the potty and not

> > number two. :)

> >

> > More info please! :)

> >

> > B.

> > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> > http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> >

> > > Hello,

> > > I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> > > source. You moms are the best!

> > > My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> > > potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I

> > used

> > > to potty train her sister with no success.

> > > Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is

> > a

> > > good time to give it a shot.

> > > Do any of you have ideas to share?

> > > Your help is very appreciated.

> > >

> > > Ximena

> > > 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thank you so very much to all who gave me such wonderful ideas.

I'll start trying them and let you know how it goes.

Blessings,

Ximena

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> >

> > Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years

> > old

> > and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

> > not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

> > set of sheets before giving up and going back to

> > Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

> >

> > My son has mild autism, but we trained him first

> > with

> > a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit.

> > A

> > lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact

> > that

> > is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go

> > to

> > the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

> >

> > What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

> > knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

> > never cared.

> >

> > Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids

> > are

> > comfortable going number one in the potty and not

> > number two. :)

> >

> > More info please! :)

> >

> > B.

> > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> > http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

> >

> > > Hello,

> > > I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> > > source. You moms are the best!

> > > My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> > > potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I

> > used

> > > to potty train her sister with no success.

> > > Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is

> > a

> > > good time to give it a shot.

> > > Do any of you have ideas to share?

> > > Your help is very appreciated.

> > >

> > > Ximena

> > > 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Ximena,

I am in exactly the same boat as you. As we near my son's 4th

birthday late next month, I have become very concerned about him

still wearing pull-ups. I sometimes wonder if it will ever happen

for him! I've tried everything! And like your daughter, he often

will go right after sitting on the toilet, after I put a pull-up on

him. (We are working on going pee in the toilet, he's pretty good

with number 2)

Since probably August, he's been consistent with telling (mostly me)

us BEFORE he has to go number 2. My husband got him to do that

because he had to just tell him a few times each time he didn't use

the toilet:

" You need to tell Mama when you have to go poo-poo "

" Who do you tell when you have to go poo-poo? "

" Mama. "

" Right, you tell Mama "

" Say, 'Poo-poo, Mama "

" What do you say? "

" poo-poo, Mama "

" Who do you tell? "

" Mama "

and so on.

Well, you get the idea.

That really seemed to do the trick.

(he only became verbal in May)

However, he can wear a 5lb urine-soaked diaper and not tell us! Even

if we try the " cool alerts! " They don't seem to alert him, or if

they do, he doesn't care! I have been hoping this diet might make

the difference for him, but not so far.

So, this week, I have begun putting him in underpants (again) right

after waking up, after he either goes in his overnight or uses the

toilet. I bought him some new Spiderman pants that he really

likes. I showed him daddy's underpants, mommy's underpants, his

underpants. " See? We all have underpants. "

For his part, he is telling me " poo-poo time " (most times meaning

pee), and I rush him upstairs (mostly carrying him, and he's heavy!)

only to find that he's already gone! But atleast he's telling me, as

opposed to not telling me at all with a pull-up. I take that as

progress. Sometimes, I can get him to go in the potty, (my idea) and

we have success

The difference with this time, I think is me. I am more determined,

so I am not getting deterred when he wets his underpants, pants,

socks, floor. He still wants to spend 15 minutes on the toilet after

that, too. I will let him do that a couple times each morning, then

to not overwhelm both of us, I put him back in a pull-up for the rest

of the day, and we go back to underpants the next morning. It's been

manageable, and I am seeing the progress, even if it's minor. If

your daughter is non-verbal, it will be tougher, for sure. My son

knew a few signs, and one of them was shaking his hand in a fist for

bathroom. He also had the PECs picture cards, one had a toilet. It

may just be a super long and slow process for you, like it is for us.

Good luck.

Well, that's where we are at...I hope it helps!

Cyn. son: DevelDelay possible Dyspraxia, Expressive Language

Disorder, Seizure Disorder, constipated, again. This is 4th

day... :-(

SCD 10/20/07

>

> I don't think she's afraid of the toilet. I use one of those rings

and she sits there with no problem. She actually doesn't like the

potty chairs. I think she finds them very uncomfortable.

> The problem is that she doesn't seem to know when she's going and

as your son, she doesn't care if she's wet unless it's really bad.

The funny thing is that her diaper is usually dry when she wakes up

and sometimes I can get her to go the bathroom on time.

> As I said she's understanding a little more now, so I sit her on

the toilet and wait there patiently, playing with her or trying to

make her stay there until she goes, but she gets tired and sometimes

she goes right after I put her diaper on again :)

> I don't really know what else to do. She's non-verbal and can not

tell when she wants to go, anyway.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Ximena

> Re: OT: Potty training ideas

>

> Can I just sympathize with you? My son is 5 years old

> and he REFUSES to be night potty trained. It is just

> not a priority to him. I have changed many a soaked

> set of sheets before giving up and going back to

> Overnights. But he is day trained no problem.

>

> My son has mild autism, but we trained him first with

> a potty chair that played music. This was a BIG hit. A

> lot of kids are afraid to use the toilet. In fact that

> is one of the hurdles with my son -- he will not go to

> the toilet by himself at night. He is afraid of it.

>

> What have you tried before? Does she seem like she

> knows when she goes? Does she mind being wet? My son

> never cared.

>

> Does she do anything in the toilet? A lot of kids are

> comfortable going number one in the potty and not

> number two. :)

>

> More info please! :)

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl. blogspot. com

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> > Hello,

> > I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better

> > source. You moms are the best!

> > My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not

> > potty trained yet. I've tried many times what I used

> > to potty train her sister with no success.

> > Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a

> > good time to give it a shot.

> > Do any of you have ideas to share?

> > Your help is very appreciated.

> >

> > Ximena

> > 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

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HI Ximena

I just wanted to tell you what finally worked with my four year old-

We got in the habit of giving him a baking soda bath every night-and

every night as soon as his feet hit that warm water, he would pee.

Soon I just began to pick him up and put him on the toilet,

saying " this is where peepee goes. " I admit, it took a few months,

and it was pretty messy, but desperate mothers call for desperate

measures. We are currently having some success getting the poo in the

potty too, and the whole process started last August, so not too bad,

considering.Good luck and much hearfelt sympathy!

Teena

Ben (4)ASD, SPD, Apraxia, Dyspraxia,leaky gut,etc, etc

SCD 9 months

>

> Hello,

> I know this is OT but I couldn't think of a better source. You moms

are the best!

> My daughter is turning 4 tomorrow and she's not potty trained yet.

I've tried many times what I used to potty train her sister with no

success.

> Now she's understanding a lot more, so I think is a good time to

give it a shot.

> Do any of you have ideas to share?

> Your help is very appreciated.

>

> Ximena

> 's mom. 4yo, PDD-NOS, SCD 9 months.

>

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I tried to put this on before when this subject was being discussed, but

apparently forgot to send it. A tip that a friend of mine gave me was to poor

warm water down the child's back while they are sitting on the toilet. They

would pee almost every time and I would praise them and set the timer. If they

did wet themselves in between timers, I would rush them to the bathroom,

chattering as we went about where we go to the potty. Took years for my

youngest (AS) to take responsibility, but it did save money on pullups. She

takes such complete responsibility now that I can rarely observe her stools to

see the effect of SCD, unless I happen to be on the spot.

Kathy

Mom to , 12

SCD since 10/29/07

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