Questions as I begin

[Guest guest]

Hi there! I've been asking questions here and there for about a month

as I was preparing to start my ASD son and I on this diet over

Christmas break. I just spoke with his DAN! doctor on Wednesday and

there are some things that she wants to address immediately

(antibiotics for clostridia...yikes! and MB12 shots) So...while we

were planning to start him over Christmas break, we'll be putting it

off until his spring break instead. (I don't think we can swing the

beginning stages while he's in school for 8 hours/day and we can't be

implementing any dietary changes while we do the MB12 trial)

So, I decided to start myself today. I was diagnosed with IBS, but

pretty certain yeast is what is causing all the problems.

I just want to make sure of a few things so I don't screw it all up.

1. Because i'm fighting yeast, do I exclude fruit juices and the

homemade jell-o? If yes, for how long? Does that mean that at first

there are no carbs? I want to avoid the carrots for a few days at least.

2. when can I add in the legal cheeses?

3. when can I add in legal spices?

4. My son and I are both gluten free, but not casein free, so does

that mean I can start the goat yogurt as soon as I get the yogurt

maker? if I have to avoid fruits/honey for a while, can I flavor the

yogurt with anything?

Thanks so much!

Kari

[Guest guest]

Hi Kari,

I too felt I had yeast issues. So for the first two

weeks before starting the diet, I ate nothing but

meats and cooked vegetables. I was able to break a

pretty severe sugar addiction that way, despite being

miserable!

For what it's worth, the only source of carbs you will

have are the vegetables and jello in the beginning. I

did eat the jello and never felt it was contributing

to my sugar addiction at all, but I suppose you could

offset it by eating more vegetables. The problem in

the beginning is calories. I've accidentally put

myself into a state of starvation, so the jello helps

because it is higher in calories. I think the ease in

digestibility of the intro foods helps offset the

yeast feeding. I do not really drink fruit juice

though, so I don't think it would be hard to stay

away.

I believe you can use lemon juice (fresh, no pulp)

pretty soon as long as you test it like a food.

For honey, I know that BTVC recommends using only 1/4

the amount of honey you would normally use if you were

not having a yeast problem.

The cheese restrictions are for people who were casein

free or people with children who are on the spectrum.

I'd extend that to include children who are ADD ADHD

but otherwise if you're starting the diet for

ulcerative colitis, diarrhea, or Crohn's, I think you

could just introduce dairy as Breaking the Vicious

Cycle recommends. That is at least my understanding.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

--- karicreehan wrote:

> Hi there! I've been asking questions here and there

> for about a month

> as I was preparing to start my ASD son and I on this

> diet over

> Christmas break. I just spoke with his DAN! doctor

> on Wednesday and

> there are some things that she wants to address

> immediately

> (antibiotics for clostridia...yikes! and MB12 shots)

> So...while we

> were planning to start him over Christmas break,

> we'll be putting it

> off until his spring break instead. (I don't think

> we can swing the

> beginning stages while he's in school for 8

> hours/day and we can't be

> implementing any dietary changes while we do the

> MB12 trial)

> So, I decided to start myself today. I was

> diagnosed with IBS, but

> pretty certain yeast is what is causing all the

> problems.

> I just want to make sure of a few things so I don't

> screw it all up.

> 1. Because i'm fighting yeast, do I exclude fruit

> juices and the

> homemade jell-o? If yes, for how long? Does that

> mean that at first

> there are no carbs? I want to avoid the carrots for

> a few days at least.

> 2. when can I add in the legal cheeses?

> 3. when can I add in legal spices?

> 4. My son and I are both gluten free, but not

> casein free, so does

> that mean I can start the goat yogurt as soon as I

> get the yogurt

> maker? if I have to avoid fruits/honey for a while,

> can I flavor the

> yogurt with anything?

>

> Thanks so much!

> Kari

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[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, Kari,

Yes, you can definitely start legal dairy, and it does not have to be

goat dairy sincer you weren't CF, but goat dairy is easier to digest

so you might want to use it anyway.

It would be good to give some yogurt to your son if he is on

antibiotics. Just don't give it at the same time as the antibiotic.

S. Boulardii is a good probiotic to put him on to combat clostridia.

I don't think you should eliminate the juice jello or the carrots on

the intro because then you wouldn't have any carbs. The intro is only

for 2 days unless you have really bad symptoms. After the intro you

can try some different carbs, one at a time, watching for reactions.

You don't have to drink juice and you can restrict honey if you think

it's necessary.

You can add spices after the intro and you can add cheese then, too.

Actually dry curd cottage cheese is on the intro diet. You can follow

the one in BTVC (as opposed to the variation on pecanbread.com) since

it includes dairy and you have never been CF.

>

> Hi there! I've been asking questions here and there for about a month

> as I was preparing to start my ASD son and I on this diet over

> Christmas break. I just spoke with his DAN! doctor on Wednesday and

> there are some things that she wants to address immediately

> (antibiotics for clostridia...yikes! and MB12 shots) So...while we

> were planning to start him over Christmas break, we'll be putting it

> off until his spring break instead. (I don't think we can swing the

> beginning stages while he's in school for 8 hours/day and we can't be

> implementing any dietary changes while we do the MB12 trial)

> So, I decided to start myself today. I was diagnosed with IBS, but

> pretty certain yeast is what is causing all the problems.

> I just want to make sure of a few things so I don't screw it all up.

> 1. Because i'm fighting yeast, do I exclude fruit juices and the

> homemade jell-o? If yes, for how long? Does that mean that at first

> there are no carbs? I want to avoid the carrots for a few days at

least.

> 2. when can I add in the legal cheeses?

> 3. when can I add in legal spices?

> 4. My son and I are both gluten free, but not casein free, so does

> that mean I can start the goat yogurt as soon as I get the yogurt

> maker? if I have to avoid fruits/honey for a while, can I flavor the

> yogurt with anything?

>

> Thanks so much!

> Kari

>