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This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take

this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and

he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to

worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

since school won't be in session.

I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I

haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this

to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if

necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any

other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other

than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

Bonita

son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type

of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

him behavior!

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We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the

Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe

brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled

baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt

that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3

times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc.

One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with

yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't

overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If

there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked

meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut.

We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables

too. If he is eating alot of garlic,

perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think

that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if

any?

Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and

glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy

additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and

especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just

curious what it contains?

I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if

he calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they

will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins,

maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got

ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them

all...

Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take

the process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that

you have complete peace about what you should do...blessings,

Jeanne and

gf/cf/ GARD/

scd diet 3 months.

adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut

bftodd wrote:

This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take

this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and

he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to

worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

since school won't be in session.

I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I

haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this

to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if

necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any

other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other

than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

Bonita

son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type

of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

him behavior!

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At 06:15 PM 12/4/2007, you wrote:

>> crushed flax seed for fiber <<

Flaxseed isn't SCD legal.

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> We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't

take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and

brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax

seed for fiber.

Hi, Jeanne,

Flax seeds are illegal. The oil is ok in small amounts.

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Re: speed healing

We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the

Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe

brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled

baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt

that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3

times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc.

One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with

yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't

overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If

there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked

meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut.

We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables

too. If he is eating alot of garlic,

perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think

that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if

any?

Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and

glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy

additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and

especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just

curious what it contains?

I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he

calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they

will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins,

maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got

ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them

all...

Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the

process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you

have complete peace about what you should do...blessings,

Jeanne and

gf/cf/ GARD/

scd diet 3 months.

adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut

bftodd wrote:

This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take

this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and

he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to

worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

since school won't be in session.

I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I

haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this

to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if

necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any

other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other

than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

Bonita

son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type

of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

him behavior!

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Jeanne,

Flax seed is illegal.

I can only give him CLO when I give him Phenol Assist. All the ones I've tried

so far have rosemary extract in them and rosemary is high in phenols and the

reaction is intolerable. He takes no anti-virals or anti-fungals. He only

takes Phenol Assist right now. He is so reactive to so many supps. Charcoal is

GREAT for him, calms him right down even though epsom salt makes him a little

hyper. I only give charcoal during a period where he won't eat or take anything

for 2 1/2 hours or more so as not to absorb any nutrients, meds or supps.

He can't survive without meats (fish, chicken, pork, beef) 3 times a day. I

stuff him with everything I can legally stuff him with just to keep him from

losing lots of weight. The chicken may be a problem. I can't find any breasts

(mostly what we use) without at least chicken broth. I can find a whole chicken

at Walmart that looks clean, but we only use whole chickens once and a while.

Can't go to HFS to get chicken. Can't afford it- absolutely NOT.

I'm going to give the CLO during Christmas break and work my way up on the

yogurt also.

Bonita

Re: speed healing

We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the

Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe

brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled

baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt

that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3

times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc.

One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with

yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't

overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If

there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked

meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut.

We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables

too. If he is eating alot of garlic,

perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think

that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if

any?

Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and

glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy

additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and

especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just

curious what it contains?

I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he

calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they

will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins,

maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got

ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them

all...

Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the

process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you

have complete peace about what you should do...blessings,

Jeanne and

gf/cf/ GARD/

scd diet 3 months.

adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut

bftodd wrote:

This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take

this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and

he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to

worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

since school won't be in session.

I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I

haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this

to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if

necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any

other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other

than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

Bonita

son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type

of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

him behavior!

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Hi Jeanne,

>

> We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't

take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and

brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax

seed for fiber.>>>>>

Although cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli are legal, for

most people who are still symptomatic these will make symptoms

worse. This is because they are part of the cabbage family , are

fibrous and are gas forming. If tolerated they are great, if not

tolerated they can definitely make things much worse.

<<<<<I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be

okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and

give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to

basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish

we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed,>>>>>

Flaxseed is illegal. It is illegal because it is very fibrous and

because it has mucilaginous compounds. These compounds will feed the

harmful microbes that you want to starve with SCD.

<<<<<... Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of

glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro

transmitters- soy additives are in everything!....

> Jeanne and

> gf/cf/ GARD/

> scd diet 3 months.

> adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut>>>>>

Soy and soy additives are also illegal SCD foods. Jeanne, since you

are a SCD newbie you may find the Legal/illegal list at the BTVC

official website helpful:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

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Bonita, have you tried CLO from Kirkman labs (www.kirkmanlabs.com) I

don't think it has rosemary (but you can double check with the

company). Kim

> This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

> this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to

take

> this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

> think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

> about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up

and

> he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have

to

> worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

> since school won't be in session.

>

> I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet.

I

> haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

> can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

> issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

> baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

>

> So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate

this

> to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

> could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots

if

> necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

> is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there

any

> other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune)

other

> than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

> better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

> foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

>

> Bonita

> son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

> intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any

type

> of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

> him behavior!

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

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Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro! Thanks for taking the time to respond. I

missed reading the flax seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section

that flax seed and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused.

Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and leaky gut

that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods? I am having a

difficult time finding something to eat and I would like to be as natural as

possible and provide nutrients of course. We seem to be passed the diarhea and

gas part, (unless it comes back) my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a

few days ago, her first one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner, I

know it contains great digestive enzymes...we seem to be suffering from

constipation more so. Are we still in the touchy stages? I was starting some

stage 2 foods...

My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify, though it did

seem unclear. Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's

seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high in glutamic

acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating meat with broth right

now...

You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be normal? LOL...

Sheila Trenholm wrote:

Hi Jeanne,

>

> We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't

take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and

brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax

seed for fiber.>>>>>

Although cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli are legal, for

most people who are still symptomatic these will make symptoms

worse. This is because they are part of the cabbage family , are

fibrous and are gas forming. If tolerated they are great, if not

tolerated they can definitely make things much worse.

<<<<<I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be

okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and

give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to

basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish

we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed,>>>>>

Flaxseed is illegal. It is illegal because it is very fibrous and

because it has mucilaginous compounds. These compounds will feed the

harmful microbes that you want to starve with SCD.

<<<<<... Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of

glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro

transmitters- soy additives are in everything!....

> Jeanne and

> gf/cf/ GARD/

> scd diet 3 months.

> adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut>>>>>

Soy and soy additives are also illegal SCD foods. Jeanne, since you

are a SCD newbie you may find the Legal/illegal list at the BTVC

official website helpful:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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Hi,

Yes, I did misread the flaxseed, I saw flaxoil was legal, but I read in the

recipes to use flaxseed and water to replace eggs, so I'm confused...this is

going to take some time...Anyway, what is dysbiosis? I;m not sure if this is the

same thing, but I read that the phenol assitance meds can affect one of the

natural amino acids occuring in the brain...

I think it was on this message group archives...but I believe the name of the

product was No-fenol or something like that. I'll try and find it...

The SCD Yogurt helps the brain create gluthiathione naturally...I think the

charcoal is a good thing for die off periods- I think it really draws out the

toxins. The epsom salt baths really work, I saw my daughter seize and a pink

rash erupted on her skin and a few minutes later it went away...Wouldn't it be

great if pecanbread had a section of recipes for those allergic to everything

with stomach issues?? LOL, Peace and strength, Jeanne and ...

Bonita Todd wrote:

Jeanne,

Flax seed is illegal.

I can only give him CLO when I give him Phenol Assist. All the ones I've tried

so far have rosemary extract in them and rosemary is high in phenols and the

reaction is intolerable. He takes no anti-virals or anti-fungals. He only takes

Phenol Assist right now. He is so reactive to so many supps. Charcoal is GREAT

for him, calms him right down even though epsom salt makes him a little hyper. I

only give charcoal during a period where he won't eat or take anything for 2 1/2

hours or more so as not to absorb any nutrients, meds or supps.

He can't survive without meats (fish, chicken, pork, beef) 3 times a day. I

stuff him with everything I can legally stuff him with just to keep him from

losing lots of weight. The chicken may be a problem. I can't find any breasts

(mostly what we use) without at least chicken broth. I can find a whole chicken

at Walmart that looks clean, but we only use whole chickens once and a while.

Can't go to HFS to get chicken. Can't afford it- absolutely NOT.

I'm going to give the CLO during Christmas break and work my way up on the

yogurt also.

Bonita

Re: speed healing

We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the

Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe

brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled

baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt

that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3

times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc.

One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with

yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't

overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If

there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked

meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut.

We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables

too. If he is eating alot of garlic,

perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think

that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if

any?

Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic

acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in

everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and especially if you have

leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just curious what it contains?

I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he

calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they

will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins,

maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got

ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them

all...

Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the

process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you

have complete peace about what you should do...blessings,

Jeanne and

gf/cf/ GARD/

scd diet 3 months.

adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut

bftodd wrote:

This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling

this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take

this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I

think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning

about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and

he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to

worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much

since school won't be in session.

I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I

haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I

can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal

issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom

baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense?

So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this

to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I

could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if

necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that

is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any

other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other

than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get

better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1

foods except for butternut squash and garlic.

Bonita

son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal

intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type

of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects

him behavior!

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I saw flaxoil was legal, but I read in the recipes to use flaxseed and

water to replace eggs, so I'm confused

Hi, Jeanne,

I don't know where you saw this egg-replacer, but it is not one listed

in the recipe section of www.pecanbread.com. I think it's used on the

GFCF diet, but not here.

mom to -12

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Is papaya ok for a beginner, I know it contains great digestive enzymes

Hi, Jeanne,

If you are just introducing stage 2 foods, then the fruits must be well-

cooked. Yes, papaya is illegal, but at this stage it still has to be

cooked and I believe that destroys the enzymes.

mom to -12

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Hi Jeanne,

<<<<Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro!>>>

The " 22 yrs " is 22 years with Poly Cystic Ovarian Disease (PCOD). It

developed after I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis (UC) which I

have had since being a teenager. I've been on the SCD since 2001.

<<<<Thanks for taking the time to respond. I missed reading the flax

seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section that flax seed

and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused. >>>>

It shouldn't be there because it is illegal, it will feed the bad gut

microbes. If youi find where it is posted please let me or one of

the other moderators know so that we can remove it. If it is on one

of the other SCD sites we will contact the administrator(s) of that

site.

<<<<<Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and

leaky gut that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods?

>>>>

Meat:

Are you vegetarian? Do you eat eggs?

Nuts: Nut free recipes at http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html

Phenols: For those who are sensitive to phenols I suggest cross-

referencing a phenol chart with SCD legal foods.

Phenol list: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Partial list of SCD legal foods:

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond If your problem is

salicylates or amines please let me know and I'll send more specific

charts

Oxalates: Please these links and posts:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/ox1.html

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/71023

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/67396

I am having a difficult time finding something to eat and I would

like to be as natural as possible and provide nutrients of course.

We seem to be passed the diarhea and gas part, (unless it comes back)

my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a few days ago, her first

one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner,I know it contains

great digestive enzymes... >>>>>

If you aren't having any gas or diarrhea you could try some ripe

fruit. Start with a small amount the first few times, increasing

slightly each time you try it. Record any new symptoms you have

with this food. It is best if you introsuce only one new food at a

time. If raw papaya isn't tolerated you could try juicing the papaya

and removing the pulp. That way you'll still get the papain.

Juices should still be diluted at the beginning of the diet; to at

least 50% water.

<<<<<we seem to be suffering from constipation more so. Are we still

in the touchy stages? I was starting some stage 2 foods...>>>>

Are you having hard stools or dry stools? Little round

stools/pellets? Going a little less frequently, having a smaller

output of stools is not unusual at the beginning of the diet as the

body shifts to a new way of digestion (From rumen type digestion back

to " human " digestion).

<<<<< My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify,

though it did seem unclear.>>>>

Okay, I just wanted to clarify in case you were using it.

<<<<<Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's

seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high

in glutamic acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating

meat with broth right now...>>>>>

Does she get enough B6 see:

http://www.iconocast.com/News_Files/HNews11X11_X_05/Health3.htm

<<<<<You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be

normal? LOL...>>>>

Hmmm....normal. It has been a long time since I felt as good as I

do now. I am very happy to be in a very good place healthwise.

(My husband is cautiously ecstatic) My mother laughs at this but I

get very excited when I eat salad. I had many years of being sick

and eating very little variety of food - I *really* enjoy eating now

especially since eating isn't associated with getting sick.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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Sheila, Thank you for the links...I am seriously considering not eating meat or

eggs for awhile, trying to raw foods as much as possible, however, I am not sure

where I will get amino acids from if I do that. Given that we are just starting

the proteolytic enzymes, should I wait for awhile before eating meats? And if so

how long? Or should I just stick it out and have faith that my stomach will

finally digest it? It's very uncomfortable. For my daughter its more serious as

she gets overloaded and her liver and pancreas seem to be overworked, (she is on

many anticonvulsants at the moment), her health is frail, but recovering.

I will say this, since we have eliminated gluten, soy and starches we have

seen tremendous improvements in our bowels which had unprocessed foods.

I'm also wary of eating dairy and meats at the same time due to leaky gut as

I mentioned in another email.

I think I probably need a counselor...

Jeanne.

Sheila Trenholm wrote:

Hi Jeanne,

<<<<Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro!>>>

The " 22 yrs " is 22 years with Poly Cystic Ovarian Disease (PCOD). It

developed after I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis (UC) which I

have had since being a teenager. I've been on the SCD since 2001.

<<<<Thanks for taking the time to respond. I missed reading the flax

seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section that flax seed

and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused. >>>>

It shouldn't be there because it is illegal, it will feed the bad gut

microbes. If youi find where it is posted please let me or one of

the other moderators know so that we can remove it. If it is on one

of the other SCD sites we will contact the administrator(s) of that

site.

<<<<<Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and

leaky gut that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods?

>>>>

Meat:

Are you vegetarian? Do you eat eggs?

Nuts: Nut free recipes at http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html

Phenols: For those who are sensitive to phenols I suggest cross-

referencing a phenol chart with SCD legal foods.

Phenol list: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Partial list of SCD legal foods:

http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond If your problem is

salicylates or amines please let me know and I'll send more specific

charts

Oxalates: Please these links and posts:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/ox1.html

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/71023

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/67396

I am having a difficult time finding something to eat and I would

like to be as natural as possible and provide nutrients of course.

We seem to be passed the diarhea and gas part, (unless it comes back)

my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a few days ago, her first

one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner,I know it contains

great digestive enzymes... >>>>>

If you aren't having any gas or diarrhea you could try some ripe

fruit. Start with a small amount the first few times, increasing

slightly each time you try it. Record any new symptoms you have

with this food. It is best if you introsuce only one new food at a

time. If raw papaya isn't tolerated you could try juicing the papaya

and removing the pulp. That way you'll still get the papain.

Juices should still be diluted at the beginning of the diet; to at

least 50% water.

<<<<<we seem to be suffering from constipation more so. Are we still

in the touchy stages? I was starting some stage 2 foods...>>>>

Are you having hard stools or dry stools? Little round

stools/pellets? Going a little less frequently, having a smaller

output of stools is not unusual at the beginning of the diet as the

body shifts to a new way of digestion (From rumen type digestion back

to " human " digestion).

<<<<< My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify,

though it did seem unclear.>>>>

Okay, I just wanted to clarify in case you were using it.

<<<<<Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's

seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high

in glutamic acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating

meat with broth right now...>>>>>

Does she get enough B6 see:

http://www.iconocast.com/News_Files/HNews11X11_X_05/Health3.htm

<<<<<You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be

normal? LOL...>>>>

Hmmm....normal. It has been a long time since I felt as good as I

do now. I am very happy to be in a very good place healthwise.

(My husband is cautiously ecstatic) My mother laughs at this but I

get very excited when I eat salad. I had many years of being sick

and eating very little variety of food - I *really* enjoy eating now

especially since eating isn't associated with getting sick.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

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