Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much since school won't be in session. I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 foods except for butternut squash and garlic. Bonita son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects him behavior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut. We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables too. If he is eating alot of garlic, perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if any? Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just curious what it contains? I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins, maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them all... Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you have complete peace about what you should do...blessings, Jeanne and gf/cf/ GARD/ scd diet 3 months. adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut bftodd wrote: This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much since school won't be in session. I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 foods except for butternut squash and garlic. Bonita son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects him behavior! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 At 06:15 PM 12/4/2007, you wrote: >> crushed flax seed for fiber << Flaxseed isn't SCD legal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 > > We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. Hi, Jeanne, Flax seeds are illegal. The oil is ok in small amounts. mom to -12 SCD 4/23/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Re: speed healing We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut. We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables too. If he is eating alot of garlic, perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if any? Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just curious what it contains? I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins, maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them all... Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you have complete peace about what you should do...blessings, Jeanne and gf/cf/ GARD/ scd diet 3 months. adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut bftodd wrote: This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much since school won't be in session. I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 foods except for butternut squash and garlic. Bonita son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects him behavior! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Jeanne, Flax seed is illegal. I can only give him CLO when I give him Phenol Assist. All the ones I've tried so far have rosemary extract in them and rosemary is high in phenols and the reaction is intolerable. He takes no anti-virals or anti-fungals. He only takes Phenol Assist right now. He is so reactive to so many supps. Charcoal is GREAT for him, calms him right down even though epsom salt makes him a little hyper. I only give charcoal during a period where he won't eat or take anything for 2 1/2 hours or more so as not to absorb any nutrients, meds or supps. He can't survive without meats (fish, chicken, pork, beef) 3 times a day. I stuff him with everything I can legally stuff him with just to keep him from losing lots of weight. The chicken may be a problem. I can't find any breasts (mostly what we use) without at least chicken broth. I can find a whole chicken at Walmart that looks clean, but we only use whole chickens once and a while. Can't go to HFS to get chicken. Can't afford it- absolutely NOT. I'm going to give the CLO during Christmas break and work my way up on the yogurt also. Bonita Re: speed healing We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut. We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables too. If he is eating alot of garlic, perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if any? Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just curious what it contains? I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins, maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them all... Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you have complete peace about what you should do...blessings, Jeanne and gf/cf/ GARD/ scd diet 3 months. adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut bftodd wrote: This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much since school won't be in session. I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 foods except for butternut squash and garlic. Bonita son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects him behavior! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi Jeanne, > > We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber.>>>>> Although cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli are legal, for most people who are still symptomatic these will make symptoms worse. This is because they are part of the cabbage family , are fibrous and are gas forming. If tolerated they are great, if not tolerated they can definitely make things much worse. <<<<<I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed,>>>>> Flaxseed is illegal. It is illegal because it is very fibrous and because it has mucilaginous compounds. These compounds will feed the harmful microbes that you want to starve with SCD. <<<<<... Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything!.... > Jeanne and > gf/cf/ GARD/ > scd diet 3 months. > adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut>>>>> Soy and soy additives are also illegal SCD foods. Jeanne, since you are a SCD newbie you may find the Legal/illegal list at the BTVC official website helpful: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Bonita, have you tried CLO from Kirkman labs (www.kirkmanlabs.com) I don't think it has rosemary (but you can double check with the company). Kim > This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling > this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take > this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I > think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning > about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and > he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to > worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much > since school won't be in session. > > I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I > haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I > can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal > issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom > baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? > > So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this > to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I > could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if > necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that > is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any > other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other > than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get > better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 > foods except for butternut squash and garlic. > > Bonita > son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal > intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type > of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects > him behavior! > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro! Thanks for taking the time to respond. I missed reading the flax seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section that flax seed and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused. Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and leaky gut that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods? I am having a difficult time finding something to eat and I would like to be as natural as possible and provide nutrients of course. We seem to be passed the diarhea and gas part, (unless it comes back) my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a few days ago, her first one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner, I know it contains great digestive enzymes...we seem to be suffering from constipation more so. Are we still in the touchy stages? I was starting some stage 2 foods... My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify, though it did seem unclear. Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high in glutamic acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating meat with broth right now... You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be normal? LOL... Sheila Trenholm wrote: Hi Jeanne, > > We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber.>>>>> Although cauliflower, brussel sprouts and broccoli are legal, for most people who are still symptomatic these will make symptoms worse. This is because they are part of the cabbage family , are fibrous and are gas forming. If tolerated they are great, if not tolerated they can definitely make things much worse. <<<<<I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed,>>>>> Flaxseed is illegal. It is illegal because it is very fibrous and because it has mucilaginous compounds. These compounds will feed the harmful microbes that you want to starve with SCD. <<<<<... Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything!.... > Jeanne and > gf/cf/ GARD/ > scd diet 3 months. > adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut>>>>> Soy and soy additives are also illegal SCD foods. Jeanne, since you are a SCD newbie you may find the Legal/illegal list at the BTVC official website helpful: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hi, Yes, I did misread the flaxseed, I saw flaxoil was legal, but I read in the recipes to use flaxseed and water to replace eggs, so I'm confused...this is going to take some time...Anyway, what is dysbiosis? I;m not sure if this is the same thing, but I read that the phenol assitance meds can affect one of the natural amino acids occuring in the brain... I think it was on this message group archives...but I believe the name of the product was No-fenol or something like that. I'll try and find it... The SCD Yogurt helps the brain create gluthiathione naturally...I think the charcoal is a good thing for die off periods- I think it really draws out the toxins. The epsom salt baths really work, I saw my daughter seize and a pink rash erupted on her skin and a few minutes later it went away...Wouldn't it be great if pecanbread had a section of recipes for those allergic to everything with stomach issues?? LOL, Peace and strength, Jeanne and ... Bonita Todd wrote: Jeanne, Flax seed is illegal. I can only give him CLO when I give him Phenol Assist. All the ones I've tried so far have rosemary extract in them and rosemary is high in phenols and the reaction is intolerable. He takes no anti-virals or anti-fungals. He only takes Phenol Assist right now. He is so reactive to so many supps. Charcoal is GREAT for him, calms him right down even though epsom salt makes him a little hyper. I only give charcoal during a period where he won't eat or take anything for 2 1/2 hours or more so as not to absorb any nutrients, meds or supps. He can't survive without meats (fish, chicken, pork, beef) 3 times a day. I stuff him with everything I can legally stuff him with just to keep him from losing lots of weight. The chicken may be a problem. I can't find any breasts (mostly what we use) without at least chicken broth. I can find a whole chicken at Walmart that looks clean, but we only use whole chickens once and a while. Can't go to HFS to get chicken. Can't afford it- absolutely NOT. I'm going to give the CLO during Christmas break and work my way up on the yogurt also. Bonita Re: speed healing We have the same condition in food sensitivities, though we don't take the Phenol assist meds. I tried just steamed cauliflower and brussel sprouts, maybe brocolli, with flax seedoil and crushed flax seed for fiber. I tried peeled baked pears with raw honey, that seemed to be okay. If you have the scd yogurt that will heal tremendously and give him cod liver oil, (without contaminates) 3 times a day. back to basics for the healing. I avoid all phenol, oxalates etc. One dish we tried was papaya with flaxoil and flaxseed, sometimes mixing with yogurt as a treat. The probiotic and the fish oil heal the gut and if you don't overload the system with foods that he cant tolerate he will heal faster. If there are unprocessed foods in his stool, he can't tolerate them. Overcooked meats, anything fried or even microwaved could be a problem if he has leaky gut. We introduced broth from meats and we poured that over the steamed vegetables too. If he is eating alot of garlic, perhaps a virus is acting up in his behaviour? In which case I would think that's progress, but want to know what antivirals/fungus meds you're taking if any? Also, meat and dairy and soy, soy additives have alot of glutamates and glutamic acid and can provide an overload to the neuro transmitters- soy additives are in everything! We are extremely allergic to glutamates, and especially if you have leaky gut! Look at the ingredients in no -phenol, just curious what it contains? I would cut back on meat to once or twice a week or every 3 days and see if he calms down. If you're giving him charcoal at the same time as any meds, they will absorb it. I think the epsom salts bath should calm and release toxins, maybe it's one of the above? Also are starches completely out? Maybe he got ahold of something or there's something hidden. It took us awhile to find them all... Less is better for healing the gut. Fish oil and probiotic are key, take the process slowly, expect reactions, that's progress...try it and I pray that you have complete peace about what you should do...blessings, Jeanne and gf/cf/ GARD/ scd diet 3 months. adhd/epilepsy/leaky gut bftodd wrote: This is the deal. I will have finished up all my son's schooling this week until next semester starts in January, so I want to take this time to really concentrate on speeding up the gut healing. I think the Phenol Assist " Companion " (I didn't realize the warning about dysbiosis on the website until too late) has messed him up and he is having a difficult time getting better again. I won't have to worry about lack of focus and him bouncing off the walls as much since school won't be in session. I have the SCdophilis (sp) probiotic but haven't started it yet. I haven't been giving him the yogurt for a couple of weeks or so. I can start that also. I do give him the Phenol Assist for the sal issue. I give him epsom baths and charcoal. However, the epsom baths seem to make him more hyper. Does that make sense? So, any suggestions on how I could do all this and coordinate this to get the most healing going here? If die off is more severe, I could ehandle it easier now and just have him play his game lots if necessary. I don't want to do any more damage with something that is supposed to be good for him by giving him too much. Is there any other thing I can give him or do (that doesn't cost a fortune) other than what is listed? Something's got to give. It's got to get better! He's 5 months into the diet and still stuck on stage 1 foods except for butternut squash and garlic. Bonita son- SCD 5 months, Asperger's, OCD, ADHD, Dyslexia, high sal intolerance, several food allergies and EVERY reaction to any type of intolerance and gut problem and food allergy primarily effects him behavior! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 I saw flaxoil was legal, but I read in the recipes to use flaxseed and water to replace eggs, so I'm confused Hi, Jeanne, I don't know where you saw this egg-replacer, but it is not one listed in the recipe section of www.pecanbread.com. I think it's used on the GFCF diet, but not here. mom to -12 SCD 4/23/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Is papaya ok for a beginner, I know it contains great digestive enzymes Hi, Jeanne, If you are just introducing stage 2 foods, then the fruits must be well- cooked. Yes, papaya is illegal, but at this stage it still has to be cooked and I believe that destroys the enzymes. mom to -12 SCD 4/23/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi Jeanne, <<<<Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro!>>> The " 22 yrs " is 22 years with Poly Cystic Ovarian Disease (PCOD). It developed after I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis (UC) which I have had since being a teenager. I've been on the SCD since 2001. <<<<Thanks for taking the time to respond. I missed reading the flax seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section that flax seed and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused. >>>> It shouldn't be there because it is illegal, it will feed the bad gut microbes. If youi find where it is posted please let me or one of the other moderators know so that we can remove it. If it is on one of the other SCD sites we will contact the administrator(s) of that site. <<<<<Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and leaky gut that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods? >>>> Meat: Are you vegetarian? Do you eat eggs? Nuts: Nut free recipes at http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html Phenols: For those who are sensitive to phenols I suggest cross- referencing a phenol chart with SCD legal foods. Phenol list: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Partial list of SCD legal foods: http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond If your problem is salicylates or amines please let me know and I'll send more specific charts Oxalates: Please these links and posts: http://www.pecanbread.com/new/ox1.html http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/71023 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/67396 I am having a difficult time finding something to eat and I would like to be as natural as possible and provide nutrients of course. We seem to be passed the diarhea and gas part, (unless it comes back) my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a few days ago, her first one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner,I know it contains great digestive enzymes... >>>>> If you aren't having any gas or diarrhea you could try some ripe fruit. Start with a small amount the first few times, increasing slightly each time you try it. Record any new symptoms you have with this food. It is best if you introsuce only one new food at a time. If raw papaya isn't tolerated you could try juicing the papaya and removing the pulp. That way you'll still get the papain. Juices should still be diluted at the beginning of the diet; to at least 50% water. <<<<<we seem to be suffering from constipation more so. Are we still in the touchy stages? I was starting some stage 2 foods...>>>> Are you having hard stools or dry stools? Little round stools/pellets? Going a little less frequently, having a smaller output of stools is not unusual at the beginning of the diet as the body shifts to a new way of digestion (From rumen type digestion back to " human " digestion). <<<<< My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify, though it did seem unclear.>>>> Okay, I just wanted to clarify in case you were using it. <<<<<Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high in glutamic acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating meat with broth right now...>>>>> Does she get enough B6 see: http://www.iconocast.com/News_Files/HNews11X11_X_05/Health3.htm <<<<<You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be normal? LOL...>>>> Hmmm....normal. It has been a long time since I felt as good as I do now. I am very happy to be in a very good place healthwise. (My husband is cautiously ecstatic) My mother laughs at this but I get very excited when I eat salad. I had many years of being sick and eating very little variety of food - I *really* enjoy eating now especially since eating isn't associated with getting sick. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi Jeanne, > ....Anyway, what is dysbiosis? >>>>> Dysbiosis is an imbalance of microbes. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Sheila, Thank you for the links...I am seriously considering not eating meat or eggs for awhile, trying to raw foods as much as possible, however, I am not sure where I will get amino acids from if I do that. Given that we are just starting the proteolytic enzymes, should I wait for awhile before eating meats? And if so how long? Or should I just stick it out and have faith that my stomach will finally digest it? It's very uncomfortable. For my daughter its more serious as she gets overloaded and her liver and pancreas seem to be overworked, (she is on many anticonvulsants at the moment), her health is frail, but recovering. I will say this, since we have eliminated gluten, soy and starches we have seen tremendous improvements in our bowels which had unprocessed foods. I'm also wary of eating dairy and meats at the same time due to leaky gut as I mentioned in another email. I think I probably need a counselor... Jeanne. Sheila Trenholm wrote: Hi Jeanne, <<<<Thanks Sheila, 22 years, you're a pro!>>> The " 22 yrs " is 22 years with Poly Cystic Ovarian Disease (PCOD). It developed after I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis (UC) which I have had since being a teenager. I've been on the SCD since 2001. <<<<Thanks for taking the time to respond. I missed reading the flax seed. But I do remember reading in the recipe section that flax seed and water was a good egg replacement. So I'm confused. >>>> It shouldn't be there because it is illegal, it will feed the bad gut microbes. If youi find where it is posted please let me or one of the other moderators know so that we can remove it. If it is on one of the other SCD sites we will contact the administrator(s) of that site. <<<<<Is there a section that shows legal foods for malabsorption and leaky gut that does not contain meat or nuts or phenol/oxalate foods? >>>> Meat: Are you vegetarian? Do you eat eggs? Nuts: Nut free recipes at http://pecanbread.com/new/recipes1.html Phenols: For those who are sensitive to phenols I suggest cross- referencing a phenol chart with SCD legal foods. Phenol list: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Partial list of SCD legal foods: http://pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html#beyond If your problem is salicylates or amines please let me know and I'll send more specific charts Oxalates: Please these links and posts: http://www.pecanbread.com/new/ox1.html http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/71023 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/message/67396 I am having a difficult time finding something to eat and I would like to be as natural as possible and provide nutrients of course. We seem to be passed the diarhea and gas part, (unless it comes back) my daughter had a great firm bowel movement a few days ago, her first one since on the diet. Is papaya ok for a beginner,I know it contains great digestive enzymes... >>>>> If you aren't having any gas or diarrhea you could try some ripe fruit. Start with a small amount the first few times, increasing slightly each time you try it. Record any new symptoms you have with this food. It is best if you introsuce only one new food at a time. If raw papaya isn't tolerated you could try juicing the papaya and removing the pulp. That way you'll still get the papain. Juices should still be diluted at the beginning of the diet; to at least 50% water. <<<<<we seem to be suffering from constipation more so. Are we still in the touchy stages? I was starting some stage 2 foods...>>>> Are you having hard stools or dry stools? Little round stools/pellets? Going a little less frequently, having a smaller output of stools is not unusual at the beginning of the diet as the body shifts to a new way of digestion (From rumen type digestion back to " human " digestion). <<<<< My response to soy was to EXCLUDE not include just to clarify, though it did seem unclear.>>>> Okay, I just wanted to clarify in case you were using it. <<<<<Glutamic acid and soy additives seem to be behind my daughter 's seizures. Every time we have any meat with yogurt (dairy) both high in glutamic acid, we both feel it tremendously. We're just eating meat with broth right now...>>>>> Does she get enough B6 see: http://www.iconocast.com/News_Files/HNews11X11_X_05/Health3.htm <<<<<You know, maybe I should ask--what does it feel like to be normal? LOL...>>>> Hmmm....normal. It has been a long time since I felt as good as I do now. I am very happy to be in a very good place healthwise. (My husband is cautiously ecstatic) My mother laughs at this but I get very excited when I eat salad. I had many years of being sick and eating very little variety of food - I *really* enjoy eating now especially since eating isn't associated with getting sick. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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