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--Our son gets the same way and we don't use B 12 shots. When he

doesn't get his way, he screams, kicks things, pounds on things. Its

horrible. Yeast can cause anger.- In

pecanbread , " stacyllang " wrote:

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> My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic acid and we haven't

> been able to move past the anger. He is sooo senitive to things and

> it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive anger. Has anyone

> delt with this.

>

> Thanks

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How long has he been on both. I have heard of aggression with the

folinic -- how high is the dose? Maybe taper down folinic and then

raise it slowly? Kim

>

> My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic acid and we haven't

> been able to move past the anger. He is sooo senitive to things and

> it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive anger. Has anyone

> delt with this.

>

> Thanks

>

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I have been told B6 and magnesium can help with

aggression. I don't know if anyone on SCD has tried

that? I also heard DMG and TMG but I am not sure there

are SCD legal versions of them.

Perhaps someone else on the list knows.

My son was not aggressive per se but he did used to

headbutt his teachers when he didn't get his way. I

know how it sounds, but he never did it at home. He

just knew he could get away with it at school. Since

SCD he stopped doing that. Whew.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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--- adtahoe wrote:

> --Our son gets the same way and we don't use B 12

> shots. When he

> doesn't get his way, he screams, kicks things,

> pounds on things. Its

> horrible. Yeast can cause anger.- In

> pecanbread , " stacyllang "

> wrote:

> >

> > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic

> acid and we haven't

> > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo

> senitive to things and

> > it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive

> anger. Has anyone

> > delt with this.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

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We do give him magnesium. I truley believe he just has a short fuse

in his genes, and I'm not just saying that. But same thing, he

pulls that stuff at home!!

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> > > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic

> > acid and we haven't

> > > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo

> > senitive to things and

> > > it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive

> > anger. Has anyone

> > > delt with this.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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It has also been about a month since I took all sugar away from him,

so I dont' know if its a detox thing, die off or what it is?

> > >

> > > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic

> > acid and we haven't

> > > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo

> > senitive to things and

> > > it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive

> > anger. Has anyone

> > > delt with this.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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It could be die off. What is he eating now? Is he

getting enough to eat? My son gets very angry and

cries sometimes when he is hungry.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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--- adtahoe wrote:

> It has also been about a month since I took all

> sugar away from him,

> so I dont' know if its a detox thing, die off or

> what it is?

> > > >

> > > > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes

> folinic

> > > acid and we haven't

> > > > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo

> > > senitive to things and

> > > > it comes out in wining and anger very

> distrustive

> > > anger. Has anyone

> > > > delt with this.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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All my son does is eat!!! Its so frustrating!!!

> It could be die off. What is he eating now? Is he

> getting enough to eat? My son gets very angry and

> cries sometimes when he is hungry.

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

> **********

>

> --- adtahoe wrote:

>

> > It has also been about a month since I took all

> > sugar away from him,

> > so I dont' know if its a detox thing, die off or

> > what it is?

> > > > >

> > > > > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes

> > folinic

> > > > acid and we haven't

> > > > > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo

> > > > senitive to things and

> > > > > it comes out in wining and anger very

> > distrustive

> > > > anger. Has anyone

> > > > > delt with this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > _______________

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> > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I'm going through the same thing, believe me! But a

lot of kids with digestive issues are now making up

for lost time and having growth spurts! I know it's

hard. On the weekends it's like my son eats every two

hours!

I was asking what he was eating in case there was

something new he was eating that might be causing

problems.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

--- adtahoe wrote:

> All my son does is eat!!! Its so frustrating!!!

>

>

> > It could be die off. What is he eating now? Is he

> > getting enough to eat? My son gets very angry and

> > cries sometimes when he is hungry.

> >

> > B.

> > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> > http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

> > **********

> >

> > --- adtahoe wrote:

> >

> > > It has also been about a month since I took all

> > > sugar away from him,

> > > so I dont' know if its a detox thing, die off or

> > > what it is?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes

> > > folinic

> > > > > acid and we haven't

> > > > > > been able to move past the anger. He is

> sooo

> > > > > senitive to things and

> > > > > > it comes out in wining and anger very

> > > distrustive

> > > > > anger. Has anyone

> > > > > > delt with this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

_____________________________________________________________________

> > > _______________

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> page.

> > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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We don't do B12 either and this is not my ASD son, but my middle, who

is ADHD and bipolar (which I often question that dx for both of them)

used to get soooooooo violent and destructive. He's been on a mood

stabilizer since he was six, because he was so violent he was literally

beating the crap out of me. Over the littlest things. He has been

MUCH mellower on this diet, although he's had some kickbacks. What's

worked for us is the epsom salts bath. It calms him down almost

immediately. I also am pretty sure he's sensitive to the antibiotics

and hormones in beef so am pulling him from beef for now. Seems like

every time he has beef he gets ugly afterward. I hope you figure out

what is causing the anger in your son--I know it's not fun dealing with

that.

Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to:

15yo ds ASD, OCD, bipolar

10yo ds ADHD, bipolar

6yo ds NT, severe constipation

All SCD since 11/4/2007

> --Our son gets the same way and we don't use B 12 shots. When he

> doesn't get his way, he screams, kicks things, pounds on things. Its

> horrible. Yeast can cause anger.- In

> pecanbread , " stacyllang " <stacyllang@> wrote:

> >

> > My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic acid and we haven't

> > been able to move past the anger. He is sooo senitive to things

and

> > it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive anger. Has anyone

> > delt with this.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

>

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Another option would be to switch from folinic to folic acid because

some kids just CAN'T tolerate folinic.

Did you start MB12 and folinic simultaneously?

You may want to do a search on autismweb.com; there will be a lot of

posts about MB12.

Folinic can make some kids NUTS.

A timeline of when you started those supplements and SCD would be

helpful. If you have already posted this, forgive me. I am WAY behind

on my e-mails!

MS Mom to Nick MB12 shots since 1/2006 w/Dr. Neubrander, SCD Aug 2007

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we did the flinic acid first and it doesnt seem to be a problem. Its just

when we add the shot . I give him 1 tenth of the dose and that is all he can

handle. It is so weird so I tried it to and had the same anger and I am 37.

How can I expect him to keep it togethet on it when his mom is affected too.

We have been scd 1 and a half years the first half I don't count we went to raw

to fast we restarted and its been a year and we are still not on raw food yet.

thanks

Kim wrote:

How long has he been on both. I have heard of aggression with the

folinic -- how high is the dose? Maybe taper down folinic and then

raise it slowly? Kim

>

> My son has ben on b 12 shots and takes folinic acid and we haven't

> been able to move past the anger. He is sooo senitive to things and

> it comes out in wining and anger very distrustive anger. Has anyone

> delt with this.

>

> Thanks

>

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