just starting - exhausted and exasperated!

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

My DS (now 3) was born prematurely, received antibiotics during NICU,

refused all food except breastmilk until past his second birthday, was

diagnosed with iron-deficiency anemia and dental enamel hypoplasia

(for which there is a connection to Celiac Disease). He dropped from

the 95th percentile for height to 3rd. He is 'delayed' in several areas.

From shortly after his second birthday, he ate anything and

everything. We eat quite healthily and he did well, no sicknesses, etc.

Recently, he had five weeks of weird poops. Diarrhea, then variations

on the 'loose or sludgey stool' theme. He has been very pale and his

poop has been increasingly so. He was waking frightened many times

each night.

His doc confirmed no virus, no bacteria, no parasite. We tried

eliminating a couple of foods, to no avail, then started a full

elimination diet, eating only turkey, rice, millet, cooked pears.

After 36 hours, his first poop came out normal! And he slept well! We

continued the elimination diet with good poops for three days.

While on the elimination diet, we learned about the SCD and tried to

transition to that, meaning that today we have had turkey, the

gelatin/grape juice thing, and eggs. But...his poop today was mostly

formed, but watery too again.

Having been on a horrible elimination diet for several days before

learning about SCD, I am loathe to do another couple of days of the

SCD intro diet. I am also not sure about giving him eggs anymore. Did

he react to these???

Just wondering how to get started here...

Thanks!!!

Baden

[Guest guest]

Hi, Baden,

I don't think you should analyse too much what is happening on the SCD

Intro Diet. Lots of changes are happening in the body. The bad

bacteria no longer have the starches to consume and that will bring

upheavals in poops. My son had diarrhea for two weeks when he

started. So you cannot assume at this point that your son cannot

tolerate eggs.

After a few days of the intro, cautiously add new foods, in small

amounts, one at a time, every 2-4 days and keep a food diary to watch

for reactions.

Although it is not required to follow the Stages Chart, it is a good

guideline to find out which foods are the easiest to digest. Here is

the link:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for your response, . I have been awake most of

the night trying to figure out what I can feed him today. He is very

hungry!!

I read the Vicious Cycle book a couple of days ago, the PecanBread

guidelines yesterday, and reviewed Jonn Matsen's 'Eating Alive' last

night. It says in the latter that mucous in the stool may be part of a

detox process, so I think you are right that I should not worry about

this yet. But as diarrhea is the symptom that prompted dietary

changes, and is the only obvious (ie. physical) issue, I'm concerned

we will have nothing else to gauge intolerances by..?

Thank you,

Baden

Mom to 3yr with autism and Celiac suspected

SCD 12/11/07

> Hi, Baden,

> I don't think you should analyse too much what is happening on the SCD

> Intro Diet. Lots of changes are happening in the body. The bad

> bacteria no longer have the starches to consume and that will bring

> upheavals in poops. My son had diarrhea for two weeks when he

> started. So you cannot assume at this point that your son cannot

> tolerate eggs.

> After a few days of the intro, cautiously add new foods, in small

> amounts, one at a time, every 2-4 days and keep a food diary to watch

> for reactions.

> Although it is not required to follow the Stages Chart, it is a good

> guideline to find out which foods are the easiest to digest. Here is

> the link:

> http://www.pecanbread.com/new/scdfoods1.html

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

Do re-read BTVC. It has quite a bit of advice for those whose problem

is diarrhea. Elaine mentions many foods that should not be added until

diarrhea stops. I know it's hard, but it will stop given time for

healing. Stay with the intro for 5 days and then cautiously add

foods. Hopefully you will see some better poops next week or the week

after. Keep him hydrated. Hunger is common. Make lots of soup and

gelatin. You can make the gelatin with diluted apple cider, too; that

was left off of the pecanbread website.

How is he with dairy? Would you be comfortable adding the SCD

cheesecake (see BTVC) to help fill him up?

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

We haven't tested dairy yet, so we don't know. We had resolved the

five week diarrhea then saw it again within an hour of testing

(adding) eggs. That's all we know so far.

We weren't casein (or gluten or anything else) free before approaching

SCD and need to test a lot of stuff.

In a pre-SCD test, he had no diarrhea with: turkey, millet, rice, rice

milk, pears, gelatin, apples, grape juice, beets and beet greens.

That's what we've got so far. (The only negative test so far is the egg.)

I will do the apple cider gelatin --thanks.

Baden

Breastfeeding mom of 3yo with suspected Celiac and Autism