Beginning diet....yeast issues

[Guest guest]

I start the diet next week after Christmas and know that I have yeast

overgrowth in my gut. Which, I'm assuming means that I don't have

fruits for a while. When I look at the beginning stages, it seems like

there is a lot of meat. I don't really have strong digestion and meat

can be difficilt for me. I know I will have a lot of broth, but I

guess I am looking for some help. Maybe someone who also started with

no friuts could commentor provide some direction. It's hard for me to

thin about the beginning stages and without feeling like I can't eat

anything.... Thanks in advance. :-) tara

[Guest guest]

Tara,

Preparation of the meats is the key. It is outlined on

the pecanbread.com web site.

Making the soup makes very easy to digest chicken.

Skim fats well, use only legs for soup. The soup will

be less fatty that way.

You can also poach chicken breasts by boiling them in

a small amount of water or legal apple cider until

they are done.

If eggs are OK, you will be fine.

It's not like you are supposed to eat all the meats.

It's just that there is a variety of meats you can eat

should you want to.

I spent a week only eating cooked veggies and meats

before starting the intro diet. I broke my sugar

addiction that way. It is kind of miserable and you

have to eat a LOT of vegetables to get enough

calories. LOL. But it worked.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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--- tvromanowich wrote:

> I start the diet next week after Christmas and know

> that I have yeast

> overgrowth in my gut. Which, I'm assuming means

> that I don't have

> fruits for a while. When I look at the beginning

> stages, it seems like

> there is a lot of meat. I don't really have strong

> digestion and meat

> can be difficilt for me. I know I will have a lot

> of broth, but I

> guess I am looking for some help. Maybe someone who

> also started with

> no friuts could commentor provide some direction.

> It's hard for me to

> thin about the beginning stages and without feeling

> like I can't eat

> anything.... Thanks in advance. :-) tara

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Preparation of the meats is the key. It is outlined on

the pecanbread.com web site.

Making the soup makes very easy to digest chicken.

Skim fats well, use only legs for soup. The soup will

be less fatty that way.

I use whole chickens but you can certainly use thighs & legs. Place them in

plenty of water, (I also add garlic at that time) and boil until the chicken

tests well done. Lift the chcken out and shred it. Cool the broth and then pour

it up into 1 liter containers and place in the fridge overnight. Next day the

fat will have risen to the top and can be easily spooned off. You will have 3

nice size containers of broth. (My husband eats regular yoghurt in the 1 liter

containers, I love those containers to store the broth in). I freeze them for

later use. I keep one in the fridge to use for various purposes in preparing

recipes. It's wonderful for making a bowl of soup simply by adding what ever

legal veggies you have in the fridge. I like to add an egg also and a spoon of

yoghurt. It makes a wonderful breakfast or lunch dish.

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,

I'm confused, you said that you ate only meats and vegetables for a

week before starting the intro diet. Wouldn't eating just meats and

veggies qualify as the intro diet?

Maureen

>

> > I start the diet next week after Christmas and know

> > that I have yeast

> > overgrowth in my gut. Which, I'm assuming means

> > that I don't have

> > fruits for a while. When I look at the beginning

> > stages, it seems like

> > there is a lot of meat. I don't really have strong

> > digestion and meat

> > can be difficilt for me. I know I will have a lot

> > of broth, but I

> > guess I am looking for some help. Maybe someone who

> > also started with

> > no friuts could commentor provide some direction.

> > It's hard for me to

> > thin about the beginning stages and without feeling

> > like I can't eat

> > anything.... Thanks in advance. :-) tara

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tara,

>

> I start the diet next week after Christmas and know that I have

yeast overgrowth in my gut. Which, I'm assuming means that I don't

have > fruits for a while.>>>>

Not necessarily.

Please have a look at :

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yeast.html &

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yeastsheila.html

<<<<When I look at the beginning stages, it seems like

> there is a lot of meat. I don't really have strong digestion and

meat> can be difficilt for me.>>>>

It is best to start with the intro diet. SInce you have an

overgrowth of yeast it may help if you are able to take either a legal

probiotic or start some of the SCD yogurt. Are you dairy free now?

The easiest to digest meats are listed for the intro. Boiling or

broiling makes meat easier to digest. The ground meats are a liitle

easier as are the meats that are prepared in slow cooked soups.

<<<< I know I will have a lot of broth, but I

> guess I am looking for some help. Maybe someone who also started

with> no friuts could commentor provide some direction. It's hard for

me to> thin about the beginning stages and without feeling like I

can't eat> anything.... Thanks in advance. :-) tara>>>>

If you peel and cook fruit you may be okay with some at the start of

the diet. Many do find bananas are not good with yeast overgrowth -

but if you try them make sure they are ripe and only have a small

portion of banana at each sitting.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

>>It is best to start with the intro diet. SInce you have an

overgrowth of yeast it may help if you are able to take either a legal

probiotic or start some of the SCD yogurt. Are you dairy free now?<<

Hi Sheila, I am dairy free now, but hope to be able to heal enough that I can

do the SCD yogurt. I make it for my kids now. I'm so confused on probiotics.

I saw Dr Natsha Cambell Mc Bride at the Weston Price Conference and she supports

SCD in her book, but her probiotic is multi strand with everything in there you

can imagine. I'm confused. Her rational seems logical. Have people had luck

with BioKlut (I think that's what it's called). i don't know which one to use

when I start the diet...

Thanks. Everyone was so helpful on my yeast issue. :-) tara

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Hi Maureen,

It was not SCD legal veggies. I was eating what I had

on hand at the time -- cooked broccoli most notably is

not on the intro. I also ate cooked summer squashes

that were not peeled.

I discovered SCD during that week (my friend Marte

sent me the link but I had seen the Pecanbread site

before, just never gone through it in detail). So I

then switched to the intro immediately and put my son

on it too.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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--- maureenfem wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I'm confused, you said that you ate only meats and

> vegetables for a

> week before starting the intro diet. Wouldn't

> eating just meats and

> veggies qualify as the intro diet?

>

> Maureen

>

>

>

> >

> > > I start the diet next week after Christmas and

> know

> > > that I have yeast

> > > overgrowth in my gut. Which, I'm assuming means

> > > that I don't have

> > > fruits for a while. When I look at the beginning

> > > stages, it seems like

> > > there is a lot of meat. I don't really have

> strong

> > > digestion and meat

> > > can be difficilt for me. I know I will have a

> lot

> > > of broth, but I

> > > guess I am looking for some help. Maybe someone

> who

> > > also started with

> > > no friuts could commentor provide some

> direction.

> > > It's hard for me to

> > > thin about the beginning stages and without

> feeling

> > > like I can't eat

> > > anything.... Thanks in advance. :-) tara

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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At 03:58 PM 12/22/2007, you wrote:

>I discovered SCD during that week (my friend

>Marte sent me the link but I had seen the Pecanbread site

>before, just never gone through it in detail).

>So I then switched to the intro immediately and put my son on it too.

,

Ah hah! You're Marte's friend. <g> I'm the one

who gave Marte the link for Pecanbread!

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

She was recently over at our house for babysitting,

and she mentioned your name. I said, " Is she the one

with the dogs? " and Marte said, " Yeah, that's her! "

I am very interested in your recipes. I am looking

forward to when we will be able to try them all!

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

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> ,

>

> Ah hah! You're Marte's friend. <g> I'm the one

> who gave Marte the link for Pecanbread!

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Hi Tara,

>

> >>It is best to start with the intro diet. SInce you have an

> overgrowth of yeast it may help if you are able to take either a

legal > probiotic or start some of the SCD yogurt. Are you dairy free

now?<<

>

> Hi Sheila, I am dairy free now, but hope to be able to heal

enough that I can do the SCD yogurt. I make it for my kids now. I'm

so confused on probiotics. I saw Dr Natsha Cambell Mc Bride at the

Weston Price Conference and she supports SCD in her book, but her

probiotic is multi strand with everything in there you can imagine.

>>>>

You can get legal multi-strain that is dairy free by fermenting

veggies or homemade nut milk (homemade ripe coconut, almond, pecan,

or cashew milk...) with the dairy free legal yogurt starter.

<<<<<I'm confused. Her rational seems logical. Have people had luck

with BioKlut (I think that's what it's called). i don't know which

one to use when I start the diet...>

Thanks. Everyone was so helpful on my yeast issue. :-) tara >>>>

The Biokult is not legal; it contains illegal Bifidum bacteria which

has been reported to be very bad for SCDers and maltodextrin which

may feed the harmful microbes you want to starve.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

At 06:48 PM 12/22/2007, you wrote:

>She was recently over at our house for

>babysitting, and she mentioned your name. I said, " Is she the one

>with the dogs? " and Marte said, " Yeah, that's her! "

>

>I am very interested in your recipes. I am

>looking forward to when we will be able to try them all!

,

<g> I know Marte from several other Forums. My

Great Galoot (aka Shadow) is the picture I post

with messages. The pair o'dachs are MY children... and they led me to SCD.

I'd mentioned several times what a great bunch of

people the Pecan Bread list was, and about SCD

and the successes many parents have. (Not to

mention us adults -- SCD literally saves MY

life!) I'm really glad she did pass it on to you.

My great and sincere hope is that every single

person who reads my recipes will know that there

is hope and healing and truly superior food on this diet!

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Please guide me to find your receipes!!!

Tina

>

> At 06:48 PM 12/22/2007, you wrote:

> >She was recently over at our house for

> >babysitting, and she mentioned your name. I said, " Is she the one

> >with the dogs? " and Marte said, " Yeah, that's her! "

> >

> >I am very interested in your recipes. I am

> >looking forward to when we will be able to try them all!

>

> ,

>

> <g> I know Marte from several other Forums. My

> Great Galoot (aka Shadow) is the picture I post

> with messages. The pair o'dachs are MY children... and they led me

to SCD.

>

> I'd mentioned several times what a great bunch of

> people the Pecan Bread list was, and about SCD

> and the successes many parents have. (Not to

> mention us adults -- SCD literally saves MY

> life!) I'm really glad she did pass it on to you.

>

> My great and sincere hope is that every single

> person who reads my recipes will know that there

> is hope and healing and truly superior food on this diet!

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 05:04 PM 12/23/2007, you wrote:

>Please guide me to find your receipes!!!

Tina,

I generally share my recipes as asked... you'll

find my Thanksgiving / Christmas recipes here:

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/thanksgiving.html

I have lots of seasoning mixtures, make my own

hot dogs, make beef snacking sticks (pepperoni,

breakfast sausage, blackened beef, Cajun BBQ,

salt-n-pepper). I've done Gourmet Meals for my

parents, which has included Tex-Mex, Lamb roast,

mock-Chinese, and, of course, lots of Louisiana-style home cookin'!

A fair number of my recipes do involve dairy, but

some can work just fine without it. (It's just

that I maintain that I use liquid cheese for carrying oxygen to my cells....)

The brie sauce, in the Thanksgiving recipes can

also be made with dry curd cottage cheese blended

smooth. My niece claims that putting it on

vegetables is a waste of good brie sauce (it

should go on nut-bread sticks) while my tai chi

teacher has eaten ladles of the brie spinach as

if it were soup or casserole. In fact, the kids

at tai chi all liked the brie spinach, by which I

conclude that almost any cooked vegetable can

taste delicious if you put enough brie sauce on it.

I make a tomato-beef and lentil chili, which my

husband, who hates beans, likes.

Many recipes are too advanced for new SCDers, but

they're something to aim one's healing towards.

When I started, I tolerated exactly four foods:

soft boiled eggs, peeled steamed zucchini, beef roast, and pork roast.

Tonight, we're having chicken soup with carrot and celeriac " noodles " .

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Thanks!!!!

> >Please guide me to find your receipes!!!

>

> Tina,

>

> I generally share my recipes as asked... you'll

> find my Thanksgiving / Christmas recipes here:

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/thanksgiving.html

>

> I have lots of seasoning mixtures, make my own

> hot dogs, make beef snacking sticks (pepperoni,

> breakfast sausage, blackened beef, Cajun BBQ,

> salt-n-pepper). I've done Gourmet Meals for my

> parents, which has included Tex-Mex, Lamb roast,

> mock-Chinese, and, of course, lots of Louisiana-style home cookin'!

>

> A fair number of my recipes do involve dairy, but

> some can work just fine without it. (It's just

> that I maintain that I use liquid cheese for carrying oxygen to my

cells....)

>

> The brie sauce, in the Thanksgiving recipes can

> also be made with dry curd cottage cheese blended

> smooth. My niece claims that putting it on

> vegetables is a waste of good brie sauce (it

> should go on nut-bread sticks) while my tai chi

> teacher has eaten ladles of the brie spinach as

> if it were soup or casserole. In fact, the kids

> at tai chi all liked the brie spinach, by which I

> conclude that almost any cooked vegetable can

> taste delicious if you put enough brie sauce on it.

>

> I make a tomato-beef and lentil chili, which my

> husband, who hates beans, likes.

>

> Many recipes are too advanced for new SCDers, but

> they're something to aim one's healing towards.

> When I started, I tolerated exactly four foods:

> soft boiled eggs, peeled steamed zucchini, beef roast, and pork

roast.

>

> Tonight, we're having chicken soup with carrot and

celeriac " noodles " .

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi MArilyn,

Maybe nut yogurt or dripped nut yogurt cheese would work for some of

the recipes?

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

> >Please guide me to find your receipes!!!

>

> Tina,

>

> I generally share my recipes as asked... you'll

> find my Thanksgiving / Christmas recipes here:

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/thanksgiving.html

>

> I have lots of seasoning mixtures, make my own

> hot dogs, make beef snacking sticks (pepperoni,

> breakfast sausage, blackened beef, Cajun BBQ,

> salt-n-pepper). I've done Gourmet Meals for my

> parents, which has included Tex-Mex, Lamb roast,

> mock-Chinese, and, of course, lots of Louisiana-style home cookin'!

>

> A fair number of my recipes do involve dairy, but

> some can work just fine without it. (It's just

> that I maintain that I use liquid cheese for carrying oxygen to my

cells....)

>

> The brie sauce, in the Thanksgiving recipes can

> also be made with dry curd cottage cheese blended

> smooth. My niece claims that putting it on

> vegetables is a waste of good brie sauce (it

> should go on nut-bread sticks) while my tai chi

> teacher has eaten ladles of the brie spinach as

> if it were soup or casserole. In fact, the kids

> at tai chi all liked the brie spinach, by which I

> conclude that almost any cooked vegetable can

> taste delicious if you put enough brie sauce on it.

>

> I make a tomato-beef and lentil chili, which my

> husband, who hates beans, likes.

>

> Many recipes are too advanced for new SCDers, but

> they're something to aim one's healing towards.

> When I started, I tolerated exactly four foods:

> soft boiled eggs, peeled steamed zucchini, beef roast, and pork

roast.

>

> Tonight, we're having chicken soup with carrot and

celeriac " noodles " .

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:57 AM 12/24/2007, you wrote:

>Maybe nut yogurt or dripped nut yogurt cheese would work for some of

>the recipes?

Sheila,

I'm pretty sure nut yogurt or nut yogurt cheese

will work to make some of the recipes non-dairy,

but I haven't had a chance to kitchen test them. <smile>

Of course, I could always grab Bonita or one of

the other non-dairy moms who can do experimental

cooking, and we could see what we come up with....

After all, my rule of thumb with SCD cooking is,

" With these ingredients, how bad can it be? "

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

> >Maybe nut yogurt or dripped nut yogurt cheese would work for some

of

> >the recipes?

>

> Sheila,

>

> I'm pretty sure nut yogurt or nut yogurt cheese

> will work to make some of the recipes non-dairy,

> but I haven't had a chance to kitchen test them. <smile>>>>>

I know what you mean I have a laundry list of things to try

out ....when i get the time

<<<<<Of course, I could always grab Bonita or one of

> the other non-dairy moms who can do experimental

> cooking, and we could see what we come up with....

>

> After all, my rule of thumb with SCD cooking is,

> " With these ingredients, how bad can it be? "

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund>>>>>

That's right, when you start with good SCD ingredients it is good.

We ran into a Christmas Dinner setback yesterday when some of the

ingredients went 'kapooey'. Christmas dinner was at my house this

year and visiting MIL and I had planned on guacomole and fresh

veggies as one of the appetizers. Veggies chopped and about to make

guacamole unfortunately the avocadoes were overripe. MIL panicked

but I just threw together some dripped yogurt, mayo and spices and

made my cucumber dill dip. My mantra yesterday... " it's all

good " : )

Merry Christmas!

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and