sensitive to smells and meat--Tina

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tina,

I'm sorry you're finding all the recipes you have made unappealing.

Sandy has given you some good advice--look for a post with the subject

Re: Nut Butter and it begins, " Hi, Diane " .

To help us out, if you reply to a post with a related question, please

delete non-essential parts of the original post or at least hit the

enter key a couple of times to create some space. I think the lack of

space was why Sandy thought you were Diane. Also, if you could start

a new post with a more to-the-point subject line, it will help further

archive searches--the topic " sensitive to smells " won't be hiding

under " nut butter " .

I'm stabbing in the dark here, because I don't know what smells good

or bad to you. If you make soup and puree it, the meat will be more

hidden. If you season things with a spice that does smell good to you

that might help. Maybe you could hide things you know you need to eat

but don't like the smell of in pancakes, smoothies, or popsicles.

Maybe, as Sandy said, you could start with something you like and

transform it a bit to be SCD legal. I think her fruit and pork idea

is a great one.

That's all I can think of without really knowing what you like and

dislike.

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

Sorry ,

I am new to this, and I actually just been using my email, maybe I

am doing this wrong?

I will share with you that I cooked chicken in the crock pot with

carrots. I wasn't home to eat it, but my husband said it was good.

Then I took the chicken and followed the chicken cupcake receipe.

is was so horrible. I thought something so simple, but yuck.

Mabye it was the cooked chicken, cooked again. Alot of the receipes

are so vague, that it just said chicken. Maybe it should of been

raw chicken. I also did the avacado meatloaf and it just tasted

like plain hamburg.

I think its just my issues. I had tried some of that all natural

lunch meat and coudln't eat for a few days.

But thanks for you help!!!

Tina

> Hi, Tina,

> I'm sorry you're finding all the recipes you have made

unappealing.

> Sandy has given you some good advice--look for a post with the

subject

> Re: Nut Butter and it begins, " Hi, Diane " .

> To help us out, if you reply to a post with a related question,

please

> delete non-essential parts of the original post or at least hit the

> enter key a couple of times to create some space. I think the

lack of

> space was why Sandy thought you were Diane. Also, if you could

start

> a new post with a more to-the-point subject line, it will help

further

> archive searches--the topic " sensitive to smells " won't be hiding

> under " nut butter " .

> I'm stabbing in the dark here, because I don't know what smells

good

> or bad to you. If you make soup and puree it, the meat will be

more

> hidden. If you season things with a spice that does smell good to

you

> that might help. Maybe you could hide things you know you need to

eat

> but don't like the smell of in pancakes, smoothies, or popsicles.

> Maybe, as Sandy said, you could start with something you like and

> transform it a bit to be SCD legal. I think her fruit and pork

idea

> is a great one.

> That's all I can think of without really knowing what you like and

> dislike.

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

Tina,

You may want to try doing a meatloaf with carrots and zucchini (peeled, sliced

and pureed or just cooked and pureed as long as your gut can handle it), egg and

salt in your ground meat. Everyone who has tasted it loved it whether on SCD or

not. I hate zucchini, but it really fills out the empty flavor of the meat.

The carrots add a little flavor too. I end up using about 1 zucchini (I get the

ones under 10 inches as the seeds are smaller so I don't have to de-seed it) per

lb of meat and a little less than a lb of carrots. I'm not a big measurer of

ingredients, sorry. One lb of carrots when you have the big ones like me ends

of being 3 or 4 carrots.

Just an idea if it helps. I was making burgers out of it but decided that was

too much work and just made big meatloaves out of it. I make 6-8 lbs at a time

with 6-8 zucchinis and a 5 lb bag of carrots.

Bonita

Re: sensitive to smells and meat--Tina

Sorry ,

I am new to this, and I actually just been using my email, maybe I

am doing this wrong?

I will share with you that I cooked chicken in the crock pot with

carrots. I wasn't home to eat it, but my husband said it was good.

Then I took the chicken and followed the chicken cupcake receipe.

is was so horrible. I thought something so simple, but yuck.

Mabye it was the cooked chicken, cooked again. Alot of the receipes

are so vague, that it just said chicken. Maybe it should of been

raw chicken. I also did the avacado meatloaf and it just tasted

like plain hamburg.

I think its just my issues. I had tried some of that all natural

lunch meat and coudln't eat for a few days.

But thanks for you help!!!

Tina

> Hi, Tina,

> I'm sorry you're finding all the recipes you have made

unappealing.

> Sandy has given you some good advice--look for a post with the

subject

> Re: Nut Butter and it begins, " Hi, Diane " .

> To help us out, if you reply to a post with a related question,

please

> delete non-essential parts of the original post or at least hit the

> enter key a couple of times to create some space. I think the

lack of

> space was why Sandy thought you were Diane. Also, if you could

start

> a new post with a more to-the-point subject line, it will help

further

> archive searches--the topic " sensitive to smells " won't be hiding

> under " nut butter " .

> I'm stabbing in the dark here, because I don't know what smells

good

> or bad to you. If you make soup and puree it, the meat will be

more

> hidden. If you season things with a spice that does smell good to

you

> that might help. Maybe you could hide things you know you need to

eat

> but don't like the smell of in pancakes, smoothies, or popsicles.

> Maybe, as Sandy said, you could start with something you like and

> transform it a bit to be SCD legal. I think her fruit and pork

idea

> is a great one.

> That's all I can think of without really knowing what you like and

> dislike.

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!!! I am acutally not doin the diet, its for my son. But the

whole family is eating that way. Its too hard not too!! I just

wish I could grasp something that is delis!!!

I personally love the pb/bana pancakes and the pb squash brownies.

But I was told to try and back off the pb for yeast reasons!!

>

> Tina,

> You may want to try doing a meatloaf with carrots and zucchini

(peeled, sliced and pureed or just cooked and pureed as long as your

gut can handle it), egg and salt in your ground meat. Everyone who

has tasted it loved it whether on SCD or not. I hate zucchini, but

it really fills out the empty flavor of the meat. The carrots add a

little flavor too. I end up using about 1 zucchini (I get the ones

under 10 inches as the seeds are smaller so I don't have to de-seed

it) per lb of meat and a little less than a lb of carrots. I'm not

a big measurer of ingredients, sorry. One lb of carrots when you

have the big ones like me ends of being 3 or 4 carrots.

> Just an idea if it helps. I was making burgers out of it but

decided that was too much work and just made big meatloaves out of

it. I make 6-8 lbs at a time with 6-8 zucchinis and a 5 lb bag of

carrots.

> Bonita

>

>

> Re: sensitive to smells and meat--Tina

>

>

> Sorry ,

>

> I am new to this, and I actually just been using my email, maybe

I

> am doing this wrong?

>

> I will share with you that I cooked chicken in the crock pot

with

> carrots. I wasn't home to eat it, but my husband said it was

good.

> Then I took the chicken and followed the chicken cupcake

receipe.

> is was so horrible. I thought something so simple, but

yuck.

> Mabye it was the cooked chicken, cooked again. Alot of the

receipes

> are so vague, that it just said chicken. Maybe it should of been

> raw chicken. I also did the avacado meatloaf and it just tasted

> like plain hamburg.

>

> I think its just my issues. I had tried some of that all natural

> lunch meat and coudln't eat for a few days.

>

> But thanks for you help!!!

>

> Tina

>

> > Hi, Tina,

> > I'm sorry you're finding all the recipes you have made

> unappealing.

> > Sandy has given you some good advice--look for a post with the

> subject

> > Re: Nut Butter and it begins, " Hi, Diane " .

> > To help us out, if you reply to a post with a related

question,

> please

> > delete non-essential parts of the original post or at least

hit the

> > enter key a couple of times to create some space. I think the

> lack of

> > space was why Sandy thought you were Diane. Also, if you could

> start

> > a new post with a more to-the-point subject line, it will help

> further

> > archive searches--the topic " sensitive to smells " won't be

hiding

> > under " nut butter " .

> > I'm stabbing in the dark here, because I don't know what

smells

> good

> > or bad to you. If you make soup and puree it, the meat will be

> more

> > hidden. If you season things with a spice that does smell good

to

> you

> > that might help. Maybe you could hide things you know you need

to

> eat

> > but don't like the smell of in pancakes, smoothies, or

popsicles.

> > Maybe, as Sandy said, you could start with something you like

and

> > transform it a bit to be SCD legal. I think her fruit and pork

> idea

> > is a great one.

> > That's all I can think of without really knowing what you like

and

> > dislike.

> >

> >

> > mom to -12

> > SCD 4/23/04

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tina,

This post was a lot easier to follow. Thanks!

It is true that the recipes can be vague, but they are also forgiving-

-by which I mean that substituting and using more or less of some

ingredient usually works, too. And, no, I don't think the chicken

cupcake recipe calls for raw chicken.

I think your tastes may change over time. It does happen. There was

no way I would have given spaghetti squash and presented it

as " the same " as his old favorite spaghetti noodles early in the

diet. But with time, tastes change. He still remembers the pasta

fondly but also can enjoy the spaghetti squash for what it is.

Maybe keeping it simple for a while would be best--plain meat and two

cooked veggies will taste like plain meat and two cooked veggies

always did (except one of them will not be a potato).

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

[Guest guest]

Hi julie,

thanks!!

I havent read the book yet. My mom bought it for me for X mas. But

As of Nov 1, we took all the bad food away from our son. So thats

how I got lead to pecanbread. But his diet is very vague. I was

doing some things with pb, but then I had heard it feeds yeast. But

he has had major die off with all this. I just took fruit away, so

I am gearing for the Chicken soup next week. I know if tells in the

book ,but why is grape juice legal. And should it be just a little

amount or unlim? I still use a little of propel water to dilute

water for his supplements.

> Hi, Tina,

> This post was a lot easier to follow. Thanks!

>

> It is true that the recipes can be vague, but they are also

forgiving-

> -by which I mean that substituting and using more or less of some

> ingredient usually works, too. And, no, I don't think the chicken

> cupcake recipe calls for raw chicken.

>

> I think your tastes may change over time. It does happen. There

was

> no way I would have given spaghetti squash and presented it

> as " the same " as his old favorite spaghetti noodles early in the

> diet. But with time, tastes change. He still remembers the pasta

> fondly but also can enjoy the spaghetti squash for what it is.

>

> Maybe keeping it simple for a while would be best--plain meat and

two

> cooked veggies will taste like plain meat and two cooked veggies

> always did (except one of them will not be a potato).

>

>

> mom to -12

> SCD 4/23/04

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:03 PM 12/23/2007, you wrote:

>I still use a little of propel water to dilute water for his supplements.

You ARE aware that this contains a number of

illegals, like sugar and sucralose, and " natural " flavors?

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Yep I am aware, just don't know what else to use. He will not drink

plain water and will just let the supplements sit. I have tried

lemon/honey?

> >I still use a little of propel water to dilute water for his

supplements.

>

> You ARE aware that this contains a number of

> illegals, like sugar and sucralose, and " natural " flavors?

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tina,

Generally when using the grape juice in the beginning

it should be diluted half with water. The reason it is

OK is because easy to digest sugars such as those in

grape juice are digested immediately. So they don't

hang around in the digestive tract to feed gut bugs.

Why don't you try diluted grape juice for his

supplements? The propel ingredients will slow or stop

your progress.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

*********

--- adtahoe wrote:

> Hi julie,

>

> thanks!!

>

> I havent read the book yet. My mom bought it for me

> for X mas. But

> As of Nov 1, we took all the bad food away from our

> son. So thats

> how I got lead to pecanbread. But his diet is very

> vague. I was

> doing some things with pb, but then I had heard it

> feeds yeast. But

> he has had major die off with all this. I just took

> fruit away, so

> I am gearing for the Chicken soup next week. I know

> if tells in the

> book ,but why is grape juice legal. And should it

> be just a little

> amount or unlim? I still use a little of propel

> water to dilute

> water for his supplements.

> > Hi, Tina,

> > This post was a lot easier to follow. Thanks!

> >

> > It is true that the recipes can be vague, but they

> are also

> forgiving-

> > -by which I mean that substituting and using more

> or less of some

> > ingredient usually works, too. And, no, I don't

> think the chicken

> > cupcake recipe calls for raw chicken.

> >

> > I think your tastes may change over time. It does

> happen. There

> was

> > no way I would have given spaghetti squash

> and presented it

> > as " the same " as his old favorite spaghetti

> noodles early in the

> > diet. But with time, tastes change. He still

> remembers the pasta

> > fondly but also can enjoy the spaghetti squash for

> what it is.

> >

> > Maybe keeping it simple for a while would be

> best--plain meat and

> two

> > cooked veggies will taste like plain meat and two

> cooked veggies

> > always did (except one of them will not be a

> potato).

> >

> >

> > mom to -12

> > SCD 4/23/04

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks,

Since I don't have the book yet, I wasn't sure.>

> Tina,

>

> Generally when using the grape juice in the beginning

> it should be diluted half with water. The reason it is

> OK is because easy to digest sugars such as those in

> grape juice are digested immediately. So they don't

> hang around in the digestive tract to feed gut bugs.

>

> Why don't you try diluted grape juice for his

> supplements? The propel ingredients will slow or stop

> your progress.

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

> *********

>

>

> --- adtahoe wrote:

>

> > Hi julie,

> >

> > thanks!!

> >

> > I havent read the book yet. My mom bought it for me

> > for X mas. But

> > As of Nov 1, we took all the bad food away from our

> > son. So thats

> > how I got lead to pecanbread. But his diet is very

> > vague. I was

> > doing some things with pb, but then I had heard it

> > feeds yeast. But

> > he has had major die off with all this. I just took

> > fruit away, so

> > I am gearing for the Chicken soup next week. I know

> > if tells in the

> > book ,but why is grape juice legal. And should it

> > be just a little

> > amount or unlim? I still use a little of propel

> > water to dilute

> > water for his supplements.

> > > Hi, Tina,

> > > This post was a lot easier to follow. Thanks!

> > >

> > > It is true that the recipes can be vague, but they

> > are also

> > forgiving-

> > > -by which I mean that substituting and using more

> > or less of some

> > > ingredient usually works, too. And, no, I don't

> > think the chicken

> > > cupcake recipe calls for raw chicken.

> > >

> > > I think your tastes may change over time. It does

> > happen. There

> > was

> > > no way I would have given spaghetti squash

> > and presented it

> > > as " the same " as his old favorite spaghetti

> > noodles early in the

> > > diet. But with time, tastes change. He still

> > remembers the pasta

> > > fondly but also can enjoy the spaghetti squash for

> > what it is.

> > >

> > > Maybe keeping it simple for a while would be

> > best--plain meat and

> > two

> > > cooked veggies will taste like plain meat and two

> > cooked veggies

> > > always did (except one of them will not be a

> > potato).

> > >

> > >

> > > mom to -12

> > > SCD 4/23/04

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The legal brands are listed on the pecanbread.com web

site. Welch's purple grape juice is one of them.

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

*********

--- adtahoe wrote:

> Thanks,

>

> Since I don't have the book yet, I wasn't sure.>

> > Tina,

> >

> > Generally when using the grape juice in the

> beginning

> > it should be diluted half with water. The reason

> it is

> > OK is because easy to digest sugars such as those

> in

> > grape juice are digested immediately. So they

> don't

> > hang around in the digestive tract to feed gut

> bugs.

> >

> > Why don't you try diluted grape juice for his

> > supplements? The propel ingredients will slow or

> stop

> > your progress.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yea I did read that, but just wanst sure WHY the grape juice was

leagl? Thanks

> The legal brands are listed on the pecanbread.com web

> site. Welch's purple grape juice is one of them.

>

> B.

> ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

> *********

>

> --- adtahoe wrote:

>

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Since I don't have the book yet, I wasn't sure.>

> > > Tina,

> > >

> > > Generally when using the grape juice in the

> > beginning

> > > it should be diluted half with water. The reason

> > it is

> > > OK is because easy to digest sugars such as those

> > in

> > > grape juice are digested immediately. So they

> > don't

> > > hang around in the digestive tract to feed gut

> > bugs.

> > >

> > > Why don't you try diluted grape juice for his

> > > supplements? The propel ingredients will slow or

> > stop

> > > your progress.

> > >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

What are you not sure about? Why grape juice in

general is legal or why specific brands are required?

B.

ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

*********

--- adtahoe wrote:

> Yea I did read that, but just wanst sure WHY the

> grape juice was

> leagl? Thanks

> > The legal brands are listed on the pecanbread.com

> web

> > site. Welch's purple grape juice is one of them.

> >

> > B.

> > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007

> > http://scdgirl.blogspot.com

> > *********

> >

> > --- adtahoe wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Since I don't have the book yet, I wasn't sure.>

> > > > Tina,

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Tina,

It is not part of SCD to remove all fruit. Please read the book

Breaking the Vicious Cycle as soon as possible and also spend time

reading all the great information on the site www.pecanbread.com. It

seems you are very concerned about yeast. Hear is the pecanbread

link to our approach to yeast:

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/yeast.html

Please sign all posts at the bottom with your name, your child's name

and age and issues, and how long he has been on SCD (when he

starts). That will help us help you more. Also, do trim off

previous posts that you are responding to, except for a few lines

that help us know what was being discussed.

I'm going to be out of town with very little computer access until

Sunday, but Sheila will be here, as will many other experienced

members.

Have a happy holiday,

mom to -12

SCD 4/23/04

> I havent read the book yet. My mom bought it for me for X mas. I

just took fruit away, so

> I am gearing for the Chicken soup next week.

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

>

<<<<but why is grape juice legal. And should it be just a little

> amount or unlim?>>>>

Grape juice is legal because the natural sugars are simple sugars

(monosaccharides) that are readily absorbed by the body. They don't

require further digestiona dn can't be used by (most) microbes.

Grape juice should be diluted to at least 50% water at the onset of

the diet.

<<<<<I still use a little of propel water to dilute

> water for his supplements.>>>>>

What flavour? we may be able to come up with a legal substitute.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and

[Guest guest]

I did dilute the grape juice and he drank it, but slowly. He was

never a fan of grape juice when he was drinking juice.

I was using the lemon flavor propel, just a smidge to top of the

water.

>

> Hi Tina,

>

>

> >

>

> <<<<but why is grape juice legal. And should it be just a little

> > amount or unlim?>>>>

>

> Grape juice is legal because the natural sugars are simple sugars

> (monosaccharides) that are readily absorbed by the body. They

don't

> require further digestiona dn can't be used by (most) microbes.

>

> Grape juice should be diluted to at least 50% water at the onset

of

> the diet.

>

>

> <<<<<I still use a little of propel water to dilute

> > water for his supplements.>>>>>

>

> What flavour? we may be able to come up with a legal substitute.

>

> Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

> mom of and

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

-- In pecanbread , " adtahoe " wrote:

> I was using the lemon flavor propel, just a smidge to top of the

> water.>>>>>

You may have to fiddle with the ingredients a bit to get the right

balance.

Here are the ingredients of the Lemon Propel:

http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/propel_fitness_water/facts.asp

" Water, sucrose syrup, natural lemon flavor with other natural

flavors, citric acid, sodium citrate, potassium citrate, sucralose,

vitamin C, vitamin E acetate, niacinamide, calcium disodium EDTA,

calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, acesulfame potassium,

vitamin B12. "

You could try some fresh squeezed lemon juice (strain out the pulp),

honey syrup (heat honey in water on stove) and a pinch of salt. If

theis isn't close enough try a pinch of baking soda also.

If he still won't accept this mix to dilute his supplement water you

can gradually switch the propel over to this. Start with 10- 25% of

the legal mix to 75-90% of the propel, then after a couple of days go

to ~40- 50% legal lemon mix to 50-40% propel. Continue to gradually

increase the legal lemon mix until it is 100% legal lemon.

Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs

mom of and