Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Hi, My son has been on the diet since the day after Thanksgiving. I'm having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas for him. Prior to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These are the foods he can eat: chicken, beef, pork, turkey green beans and carrots butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it with lunch and supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, I fear he will turn orange!!) pear sauce carrot pancakes eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked eggs) herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, rosemary, salt, pepper, parsley, basil garlic meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut squash) He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast overgrowth. Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He REALLY misses bread and biscuits. I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to find things to give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and is always hungry. I'm not really worried about him losing weight since I know he'll gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his diet. I just hate the fact that he's always looking for something to eat. I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins and he wasn't too crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like homemade jello. When can we start adding nut butters? When first starting them, do we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a commerical brand? Which nut would be the best to start with? I really don't want to introduce any dairy right now. When we removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we noticed HUGE improvements with his behavior and mood but not so much difference with going gluten-free. He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems normally. He's pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, except spinach and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few weeks. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting really desperate! HELP!!! Thanks. Judy son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, auditory- processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hi Judy, I think you could try the nut butter brownies. My son is five and we started just before Thanksgiving. There's a recipe in BTVC for peanut butter brownies and we use the 365 brand almond butter from Whole Foods. It's the cheapest at $6 for a jar. The only problem with eating them is limiting yourself to just one or two. They are very good in my opinion! I adjusted the recipe to add 1/2 tsp legal vanilla and 1/2 tsp salt. I also decrease the honey to 1/3 cup. B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com ************ --- bakemom1 wrote: > Hi, > > My son has been on the diet since the day after > Thanksgiving. I'm > having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas > for him. Prior > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These > are the foods he > can eat: > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > green beans and carrots > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it > with lunch and > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, > I fear he will > turn orange!!) > pear sauce > carrot pancakes > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked > eggs) > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, > rosemary, salt, > pepper, parsley, basil > garlic > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut > squash) > > He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast > overgrowth. > Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He > REALLY misses bread > and biscuits. > > I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to > find things to > give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and > is always hungry. > I'm not really worried about him losing weight since > I know he'll > gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his > diet. I just hate > the fact that he's always looking for something to > eat. > > I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins > and he wasn't too > crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like > homemade jello. > > When can we start adding nut butters? When first > starting them, do > we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a > commerical brand? > Which nut would be the best to start with? > > I really don't want to introduce any dairy right > now. When we > removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we > noticed HUGE > improvements with his behavior and mood but not so > much difference > with going gluten-free. > > He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems > normally. He's > pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, > except spinach > and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few > weeks. > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting > really > desperate! HELP!!! > > Thanks. > > Judy > > son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, > auditory- > processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 , Thanks so much for responding to my question!! I'm in the process of getting my grocery list together and am very anxious to try a few new things for him to help curb his hunger. He was never like this before the diet. I guess the starches (mashed potatoes with dinner) helped keep him full. Do you know if there is a particular order that we should try nuts? I know someone mentioned that pecans were easier to digest and that peanut butter and cashew butter were more advanced. I have a jar of Maranatha almond butter in my pantry that I've been waiting to use. I guess now is as good of a time as any to try it. I've been a little nervous about trying nut butters but he seems like he's been tolerating everything else on the diet pretty well. Wish us luck! Judy Re: Snack ideas for my 4 yo son Hi Judy, I think you could try the nut butter brownies. My son is five and we started just before Thanksgiving. There's a recipe in BTVC for peanut butter brownies and we use the 365 brand almond butter from Whole Foods. It's the cheapest at $6 for a jar. The only problem with eating them is limiting yourself to just one or two. They are very good in my opinion! I adjusted the recipe to add 1/2 tsp legal vanilla and 1/2 tsp salt. I also decrease the honey to 1/3 cup. B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl. blogspot. com ************ --- bakemom1 <bakemom1 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > Hi, > > My son has been on the diet since the day after > Thanksgiving. I'm > having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas > for him. Prior > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These > are the foods he > can eat: > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > green beans and carrots > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it > with lunch and > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, > I fear he will > turn orange!!) > pear sauce > carrot pancakes > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked > eggs) > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, > rosemary, salt, > pepper, parsley, basil > garlic > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut > squash) > > He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast > overgrowth. > Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He > REALLY misses bread > and biscuits. > > I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to > find things to > give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and > is always hungry. > I'm not really worried about him losing weight since > I know he'll > gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his > diet. I just hate > the fact that he's always looking for something to > eat. > > I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins > and he wasn't too > crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like > homemade jello. > > When can we start adding nut butters? When first > starting them, do > we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a > commerical brand? > Which nut would be the best to start with? > > I really don't want to introduce any dairy right > now. When we > removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we > noticed HUGE > improvements with his behavior and mood but not so > much difference > with going gluten-free. > > He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems > normally. He's > pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, > except spinach > and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few > weeks. > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting > really > desperate! HELP!!! > > Thanks. > > Judy > > son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, > auditory- > processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 French fried squash chicken nuggets (in a food processor, grind together squash, chicken, 1 egg, a little salt, and fry or bake chicken pancakes Can he have any cooking oil? Coconut oil, olive oil, safflower oil? After he's been on SCD long enough, you will be able to add more foods. bakemom1 wrote: Hi, My son has been on the diet since the day after Thanksgiving. I'm having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas for him. Prior to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These are the foods he can eat: chicken, beef, pork, turkey green beans and carrots butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it with lunch and supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, I fear he will turn orange!!) pear sauce carrot pancakes eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked eggs) herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, rosemary, salt, pepper, parsley, basil garlic meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut squash) He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast overgrowth. Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He REALLY misses bread and biscuits. I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to find things to give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and is always hungry. I'm not really worried about him losing weight since I know he'll gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his diet. I just hate the fact that he's always looking for something to eat. I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins and he wasn't too crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like homemade jello. When can we start adding nut butters? When first starting them, do we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a commerical brand? Which nut would be the best to start with? I really don't want to introduce any dairy right now. When we removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we noticed HUGE improvements with his behavior and mood but not so much difference with going gluten-free. He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems normally. He's pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, except spinach and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few weeks. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting really desperate! HELP!!! Thanks. Judy son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, auditory- processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Judy, Good luck! As I looked at your food list again, another thing that will help is to increase fats. I did not see a whole lot of fat on that list, and kids NEED fat. Fats from meats are hard to digest in the beginning, but you can cook with olive oil. I fry up carrot pancakes in a decent amount of olive oil, for example and I add olive oil to pans of boneless skinless chicken breasts. Have you tried avocado? Raw avocado is on stage 2. I like it plain with salt but you can add it to egg bread and other things. There is a lot of fat in the nut butter products which also helps with feeling full. In the beginning I did not tolerate the almond butter but my son had no problems. In a week or two, I was able to tolerate it as well. I think other nuts are easier to digest but almond butter was the easiest for me to get. B. ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 http://scdgirl.blogspot.com ************** --- Judy Kochansky wrote: > , > Thanks so much for responding to my question!! I'm > in the process of getting my grocery list together > and am very anxious to try a few new things for him > to help curb his hunger. He was never like this > before the diet. I guess the starches (mashed > potatoes with dinner) helped keep him full. > Do you know if there is a particular order that we > should try nuts? I know someone mentioned that > pecans were easier to digest and that peanut butter > and cashew butter were more advanced. I have a jar > of Maranatha almond butter in my pantry that I've > been waiting to use. I guess now is as good of a > time as any to try it. I've been a little nervous > about trying nut butters but he seems like he's been > tolerating everything else on the diet pretty well. > Wish us luck! > > Judy > > > Re: Snack ideas for my 4 yo > son > > Hi Judy, > > I think you could try the nut butter brownies. My > son > is five and we started just before Thanksgiving. > There's a recipe in BTVC for peanut butter brownies > and we use the 365 brand almond butter from Whole > Foods. It's the cheapest at $6 for a jar. > > The only problem with eating them is limiting > yourself > to just one or two. They are very good in my > opinion! > I adjusted the recipe to add 1/2 tsp legal vanilla > and > 1/2 tsp salt. I also decrease the honey to 1/3 cup. > > B. > ASD son, RA self, SCD Nov. 2007 > http://scdgirl. blogspot. com > ************ > > --- bakemom1 <bakemom1 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My son has been on the diet since the day after > > Thanksgiving. I'm > > having a really hard time coming up with snack > ideas > > for him. Prior > > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These > > are the foods he > > can eat: > > > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > > green beans and carrots > > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it > > with lunch and > > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these > days, > > I fear he will > > turn orange!!) > > pear sauce > > carrot pancakes > > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked > > eggs) > > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, > > rosemary, salt, > > pepper, parsley, basil > > garlic > > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and > butternut > > squash) ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Hi Judy, Your son's symptoms and sense of humor sound like my son! He'll be four tomorrow. Regarding the snacks, I want to echo what B. suggested which is to add the nut butter. It is legal once you are in Stage 2. The brownies ARE good, and you can also make the fruit muffins on the pecanbread website, and the carrot cake from the BTVC book. If you add the Honey Frosting from the BTVC book to any of them, it's practically outstanding!! We made the carrot cake with the frosting for my son's b-day party yesterday, and it was a huge hit! I also made some cookies from one of those 2 sources with Stage 2 appropriate food, drizzled them with some of the honey frosting, and they were good, too! I put the frosting in a zip lock bag, cut off a tiny corner, and I was able to control the frosting as a fine stream. (I actually used that to write on his cake!) We are trying to slowly transition to Stage 3 now, so the b-day carrot cake was made with Pecan flour, which I've recently learned is easier to digest, (and lower in salicylates) but in Stage 2, we substituted almond butter exclusively for recipes that called for nut flour. I suppose you can continue grinding the pecans to make butter, but I haven't done it yet. Maybe someone with experience with that will chime in. Good Luck! CJ son (Possible) Dyspraxia; Expressive Language Disorder; Hypotonia; Seizures; constipation. SCD 10/07 > > Hi, > > My son has been on the diet since the day after Thanksgiving. I'm > having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas for him. Prior > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These are the foods he > can eat: > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > green beans and carrots > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it with lunch and > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, I fear he will > turn orange!!) > pear sauce > carrot pancakes > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked eggs) > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, rosemary, salt, > pepper, parsley, basil > garlic > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut squash) > > He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast overgrowth. > Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He REALLY misses bread > and biscuits. > > I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to find things to > give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and is always hungry. > I'm not really worried about him losing weight since I know he'll > gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his diet. I just hate > the fact that he's always looking for something to eat. > > I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins and he wasn't too > crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like homemade jello. > > When can we start adding nut butters? When first starting them, do > we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a commerical brand? > Which nut would be the best to start with? > > I really don't want to introduce any dairy right now. When we > removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we noticed HUGE > improvements with his behavior and mood but not so much difference > with going gluten-free. > > He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems normally. He's > pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, except spinach > and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few weeks. > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting really > desperate! HELP!!! > > Thanks. > > Judy > > son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, auditory- > processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Hi Judy, Increased appetitie is very common especially for children at the onset of the diet. The hunger increase comes from many things: - they start to feel well so their appetite returns - they need extra food energy for the healing process (depending on severity of symptoms some may also need extra rest at the beginning) - once the healing process begins many children go through delayed growth spurts. Many children who are sick have delayed growth or stop growing - once the body is doing better it often kicks the growth process into high gear. I developed UC as a teenager and when I started taking meds and improving I hit a growth spurt and grew three inches taller in 3 months. Needless to say I bumped into a lot of things. The good news is that this is usually temporary and when weight, growth and ealing balance out the appetite should normalize. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and > > > Hi, > > > > My son has been on the diet since the day after > > Thanksgiving. I'm > > having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas > > for him. Prior > > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These > > are the foods he > > can eat: > > > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > > green beans and carrots > > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it > > with lunch and > > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, > > I fear he will > > turn orange!!) > > pear sauce > > carrot pancakes > > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked > > eggs) > > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, > > rosemary, salt, > > pepper, parsley, basil > > garlic > > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut > > squash) > > > > He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast > > overgrowth. > > Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He > > REALLY misses bread > > and biscuits. > > > > I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to > > find things to > > give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and > > is always hungry. > > I'm not really worried about him losing weight since > > I know he'll > > gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his > > diet. I just hate > > the fact that he's always looking for something to > > eat. > > > > I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins > > and he wasn't too > > crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like > > homemade jello. > > > > When can we start adding nut butters? When first > > starting them, do > > we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a > > commerical brand? > > Which nut would be the best to start with? > > > > I really don't want to introduce any dairy right > > now. When we > > removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we > > noticed HUGE > > improvements with his behavior and mood but not so > > much difference > > with going gluten-free. > > > > He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems > > normally. He's > > pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, > > except spinach > > and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few > > weeks. > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting > > really > > desperate! HELP!!! > > > > Thanks. > > > > Judy > > > > son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, > > auditory- > > processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Someone had told me that another reason they are so hungry is from lack of fat? Since most of the foods they eat are so healthy. Just a thought > > Hi Judy, > > Increased appetitie is very common especially for children at the > onset of the diet. > > The hunger increase comes from many things: > > - they start to feel well so their appetite returns > - they need extra food energy for the healing process (depending on > severity of symptoms some may also need extra rest at the beginning) > - once the healing process begins many children go through delayed > growth spurts. Many children who are sick have delayed growth or > stop growing - once the body is doing better it often kicks the > growth process into high gear. I developed UC as a teenager and when > I started taking meds and improving I hit a growth spurt and grew > three inches taller in 3 months. Needless to say I bumped into a > lot of things. > > The good news is that this is usually temporary and when weight, > growth and ealing balance out the appetite should normalize. > > Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs > mom of and > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My son has been on the diet since the day after > > > Thanksgiving. I'm > > > having a really hard time coming up with snack ideas > > > for him. Prior > > > to SCD, he was GFCF for close to one year. These > > > are the foods he > > > can eat: > > > > > > chicken, beef, pork, turkey > > > green beans and carrots > > > butternut squash (he LOVES it pureed and eats it > > > with lunch and > > > supper as a side dish everyday - one of these days, > > > I fear he will > > > turn orange!!) > > > pear sauce > > > carrot pancakes > > > eggs (as an ingredient. He doesn't like cooked > > > eggs) > > > herbs and spices: cinnamon, marjoram, thyme, > > > rosemary, salt, > > > pepper, parsley, basil > > > garlic > > > meatloaf (with parsley, salt, pepper, and butternut > > > squash) > > > > > > He is currently taking Diflucan for yeast > > > overgrowth. > > > Before the diet, he was addicted to carbs. He > > > REALLY misses bread > > > and biscuits. > > > > > > I've looked at cookbooks, websites, etc trying to > > > find things to > > > give him between meals. He's lost three pounds and > > > is always hungry. > > > I'm not really worried about him losing weight since > > > I know he'll > > > gain it back as we keep adding more foods to his > > > diet. I just hate > > > the fact that he's always looking for something to > > > eat. > > > > > > I've tried the chicken cupcakes and squash muffins > > > and he wasn't too > > > crazy about the texture of it. He also didn't like > > > homemade jello. > > > > > > When can we start adding nut butters? When first > > > starting them, do > > > we have to make them ourselves or can we buy a > > > commerical brand? > > > Which nut would be the best to start with? > > > > > > I really don't want to introduce any dairy right > > > now. When we > > > removed dairy from his diet earlier this year, we > > > noticed HUGE > > > improvements with his behavior and mood but not so > > > much difference > > > with going gluten-free. > > > > > > He doesn't have diarrhea issues or bm problems > > > normally. He's > > > pretty much tolerated most everything we've tried, > > > except spinach > > > and tomatoes. We'll try tomatoes in another few > > > weeks. > > > > > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm getting > > > really > > > desperate! HELP!!! > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Judy > > > > > > son has Childhood Apraxia of Speech, SPD, hypotonia, > > > auditory- > > > processing disorder and a GREAT sense of humor! > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo. com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _ > ______________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hi Tina, > > Someone had told me that another reason they are so hungry is from > lack of fat? Since most of the foods they eat are so healthy. Just a thought>>>>> Fat (good fats) help with calories and the full feeling. However for a damaged gut fats can be hard to digest (That is why there is next to no fat on the intro diet) and make symptoms worse. Some will see floating stools or a layer of " grease " with bm's. As the body heals on the diet good fats will absorbed and that will help with the crazy appetite increases. Sheila, SCD Feb. 2001, UC 23yrs, PCOD 22yrs mom of and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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