Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hello, I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hi , My son is 4 years old, and his symptoms seem to be the following: red (sometimes blotchy) cheeks pimply upper arms more whiny harder for him to walk says his " knees hurt " this whole salicylate issue is sort of new to me too, (a few months) but these are the signs I believe he gets. It may affect his bms, too; adding to his constipation. CJ son SCD 10/21/07 Devel Delay (possible dyspraxia), expressive language disorder, seizures, constipation, hypotonia. > > Hello, > > I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate > sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I > believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) > and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of > some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. > > > Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) > Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 How could I forget? I think they also contribute to an increase in his seizures. :-( CJ > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate > > sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I > > believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) > > and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of > > some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. > > > > > > Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) > > Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 For my son these are his sal sensitivity issues: more easily agitated clouded thinking - scattered random thoughts and can't do school work very well, makes reading difficult hyperactivity head-strong won't listen to anything gets overwhelmed and out of control much more easily BAD tics - vocal, facial and body motions uptight Other than the tics, most all of his reactions of any kind effect his behavior exclusively. Bonita Salicylate sensitivity Hello, I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Hi my son and I are highly sensitive to salicyate.It has improved on this diet. Be for we had to stay away from high salicyate food and spices all together. But we now can have limited amounts. it builds up very fast. One of the first signs is my son gets upset a lot easier. Things that are no big deal other times are huge when he is reacting. If miss that clue and keep letting him eat the food he gets hyper and has a real time listening. He has a lot of excessive mouth noise and movement come think this is his first sign if I stop the food when I see his tong wagging all the rest will be prevented. Anyways the last things my son doe is get real angry. All this can happen real fast it can be as simple as eating apple bake, or juice or hand sanitizer on his hands this is a real big on in 15 minuets of using it his ears are red mouth is going crazy and he is running and sliding on his knees that he wares a whole through his pants daily. I think with a baby you might see more wining /crying. red ears or cheeks frustrating pulling of own hair and just not being content. For me its anger noise really bugs me and if you stand to close it hurts my skin.my skin is so sensitive my space is very important. I'm sure its different for a lot of people but that's how we live I keep a food diary on my son when we were on feingold diet and it got very predictable. mom to aspen scd july 2006 first 4 months I did it all wrong raw food too fast hmsharp7 wrote: Hello, I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by inability to focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to use the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son (ADHD and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't focus or concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed at night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has had too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets really really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly dramatic/emotional. K Dayton, Ohio, USA SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning to it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the bandwagon. Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > Hello, > > I was wondering if any of you who have children with salicylate > sensitivity could tell me what it looks like for your child. I > believe that my son (on SCD and still breastfed--I am also on the SCD) > and I both have a salicylate sensitivity, but I would love to hear of > some personal experiences. The lists of symptoms online are so vague. > > > Mom to Sailor (20 mo.) > Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and severe colitis since birth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 >Hi I read your blog a couple of weeks ago and was enthralled! You kept such a wonderful journal of your progress!! My question is, where can I find a list of high-salicylate foods? The symptoms you and others have mentioned are pretty common around here--and I'm wondering if this isn't an issue we need to be addressing. I'd also like to learn more about what constitutes a salicylate, and why they're such a problem for some. Any favorite websites that address this? Thanks, Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar 10ys ADHD, bipolar 6ys NT, severe constipation that seems to be healing (went again last night without a suppository!) All SCD since 11/4/2007 > My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red > blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've > gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by inability to > focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to use > the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's > conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son (ADHD > and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, > overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, > almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't focus or > concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed at > night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has had > too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets really > really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly dramatic/emotional. > > K > Dayton, Ohio, USA > SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 > Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning to > it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the bandwagon. > Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's > Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, > Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, > yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. > > " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi Cathe, I found this online yesterday. http://www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/content/elimination- diet/salicylates.aspx It lists salicylate content of all foods (pretty much), high and low. CJ son SCD 10/07 > > >Hi > I read your blog a couple of weeks ago and was enthralled! You kept > such a wonderful journal of your progress!! > > My question is, where can I find a list of high-salicylate foods? > The symptoms you and others have mentioned are pretty common around > here--and I'm wondering if this isn't an issue we need to be > addressing. I'd also like to learn more about what constitutes a > salicylate, and why they're such a problem for some. Any favorite > websites that address this? > > Thanks, > Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: > 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar > 10ys ADHD, bipolar > 6ys NT, severe constipation that seems to be healing (went again last > night without a suppository!) > All SCD since 11/4/2007 > > > > My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red > > blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've > > gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by inability > to > > focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to > use > > the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's > > conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son (ADHD > > and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, > > overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, > > almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't focus > or > > concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed at > > night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has had > > too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets really > > really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly > dramatic/emotional. > > > > K > > Dayton, Ohio, USA > > SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 > > Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning to > > it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the > bandwagon. > > Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's > > Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, > > Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, > > yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. > > > > " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Cathe, Here are 3 salicylate websites. The first one has info on amines also; they can be problematic for some people also. I like all 3 for different reasons. http://www.zipworld.com.au/~ataraxy/Salicylates_list.html http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/Food/Salicylate.html http://www.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/content/elimination-diet/salicylates.\ aspx Bonita Re: Salicylate sensitivity >Hi I read your blog a couple of weeks ago and was enthralled! You kept such a wonderful journal of your progress!! My question is, where can I find a list of high-salicylate foods? The symptoms you and others have mentioned are pretty common around here--and I'm wondering if this isn't an issue we need to be addressing. I'd also like to learn more about what constitutes a salicylate, and why they're such a problem for some. Any favorite websites that address this? Thanks, Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar 10ys ADHD, bipolar 6ys NT, severe constipation that seems to be healing (went again last night without a suppository!) All SCD since 11/4/2007 > My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red > blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've > gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by inability to > focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to use > the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's > conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son (ADHD > and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, > overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, > almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't focus or > concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed at > night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has had > too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets really > really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly dramatic/emotional. > > K > Dayton, Ohio, USA > SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 > Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning to > it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the bandwagon. > Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's > Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, > Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, > yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. > > " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hmmm...I see the link isn't working. It looks like it's not recognizing the second line as part of the link. I just cut and paste it from the end of second line, into address window, and it worked. We've been using cinnamon since the beginning, and I never knew the relatively high salicylate content! Split peas have zero, by the way! CJ > > > > >Hi > > I read your blog a couple of weeks ago and was enthralled! You > kept > > such a wonderful journal of your progress!! > > > > My question is, where can I find a list of high-salicylate foods? > > The symptoms you and others have mentioned are pretty common around > > here--and I'm wondering if this isn't an issue we need to be > > addressing. I'd also like to learn more about what constitutes a > > salicylate, and why they're such a problem for some. Any favorite > > websites that address this? > > > > Thanks, > > Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: > > 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar > > 10ys ADHD, bipolar > > 6ys NT, severe constipation that seems to be healing (went again > last > > night without a suppository!) > > All SCD since 11/4/2007 > > > > > > > My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red > > > blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've > > > gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by > inability > > to > > > focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to > > use > > > the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's > > > conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son > (ADHD > > > and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, > > > overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, > > > almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't > focus > > or > > > concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed > at > > > night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has > had > > > too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets > really > > > really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly > > dramatic/emotional. > > > > > > K > > > Dayton, Ohio, USA > > > SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 > > > Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning > to > > > it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the > > bandwagon. > > > Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's > > > Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, > > > Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, > > > yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. > > > > > > " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 My son cannot tolerate any spices at all except for garlic and salt. The rosemary especially sends him for a serious loop. Once in a great while we use pepper. So, lemon juice, garlic and salt goes on most of my meats, chicken and fish. With phenol assist he is able to tolerate small amounts of sals. So, I was able to marinate his steak in pineapple juice, garlic and salt and it was a wonderful treat. Bonita Re: Salicylate sensitivity Hmmm...I see the link isn't working. It looks like it's not recognizing the second line as part of the link. I just cut and paste it from the end of second line, into address window, and it worked. We've been using cinnamon since the beginning, and I never knew the relatively high salicylate content! Split peas have zero, by the way! CJ > > > > >Hi > > I read your blog a couple of weeks ago and was enthralled! You > kept > > such a wonderful journal of your progress!! > > > > My question is, where can I find a list of high-salicylate foods? > > The symptoms you and others have mentioned are pretty common around > > here--and I'm wondering if this isn't an issue we need to be > > addressing. I'd also like to learn more about what constitutes a > > salicylate, and why they're such a problem for some. Any favorite > > websites that address this? > > > > Thanks, > > Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: > > 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar > > 10ys ADHD, bipolar > > 6ys NT, severe constipation that seems to be healing (went again > last > > night without a suppository!) > > All SCD since 11/4/2007 > > > > > > > My kids and I all have pretty individual responses. I get the red > > > blotchy cheeks, need to pee more often, sometimes feel like I've > > > gotten a rush or high from the high sal food followed by > inability > > to > > > focus (it is like I have lots of energy but can't focus enough to > > use > > > the energy), I get really talkative but can't focus on other's > > > conversation, occasionally I get headaches. My 5 year old son > (ADHD > > > and other behavioral and GI issues) gets super hyper, impulsive, > > > overly-silly, talks differently (I mean it just sounds different, > > > almost like a different accent) and less articulately, can't > focus > > or > > > concentrate or listen, etc. He also will start peeing in the bed > at > > > night and occasionally having accidents during the day if he has > had > > > too much salicylate build-up. My NT 7 year old daughter gets > really > > > really talkative (and talks faster) and is overly > > dramatic/emotional. > > > > > > K > > > Dayton, Ohio, USA > > > SCD since June 2006, redid intro June 2007 > > > Myself and 2 kids are SCD, hubby is ever so slowly transitioning > to > > > it, but he is SO addicted to sugar he keeps falling off the > > bandwagon. > > > Conditions we are treating successfully with SCD: Hashimoto's > > > Thyroiditis (autoimmune), Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, > > > Rheumatoid Arthritis, leaky gut, IBS, ADD, ADHD, chronic diarrhea, > > > yeast/candida, and salicylate intolerance. > > > > > > " All diseases begin in the gut " - Hypocrites (460-370 BC) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 -Dear , You will probably think I am crazy, but have you ever had your child tested for lyme? It is a good thing to rule out, as it can inhabit the gut and cause a host of other problems such as the knee pain you describe. A Western Blot test would not be a bad thing. If you want more info., feel free to e-mail me @ mrsstanko@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hi CJ, I was able to link to it--thanks! It's interesting that, most of the foods we've introduced since the intro diet (the ones I chose to introduce because they appealed to me the most) are the ones high in salicylates. It also explains my littlest guy's ears turning red after anything with tomato and after orange juice. My oldest's did this when he was little but we didn't have a clue. It also explains my oldest still rushing to pee in the middle of the night and not quite making it. It explains my drugged effect after certain foods. I did some research myself today on salicylates and was amazed at what I found. I, too, love cinnamon and use it often and am going to have to cut that out. Wah!!! Cathe, yeast overgrowth, mom to: 15ys ASD, OCD, bipolar 10ys ADHD, bipolar 6ys NT, severe constipation All SCD since 11/4/2007 > Hmmm...I see the link isn't working. It looks like it's not > recognizing the second line as part of the link. I just cut and > paste it from the end of second line, into address window, and it > worked. > > We've been using cinnamon since the beginning, and I never knew the > relatively high salicylate content! Split peas have zero, by the way! > > CJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 After looking over these websites, I think I need to take another look at salycilates and what my son might be reacting to-I've never taken cinnamon out of his diet for instance. So how does one go about diagnosing-is it trial and error? I've been looking at hyperactivity and red ears, cheeks etc., but am wondering if there is a simpler way, like a test. Ben is always hyper, so that makes it hard to pinpoint. Teena Ben age 4 SCD 10months ASD, hyperactivity disorder, dyspraxia, Apraxia, SPD, leaky gut, candidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Trial and error, food journals and such. . .Salicylate sensitivites are more subtle than food allergies and such. For my son, it is a slower build up. It could take a day or so before I see the effect of a sal. However if you mixed more than 1 sal in a food (say for instance 2 different high sal spices) the reaction was explosive. I couldn't really tell for sure until skin test food allergies (my son has several) and then taking all high sal things out of his diet and trying them 1 at a time. The 4 day rule is a very good one to follow when the reaction can be long coming. From what others have told me, as you continue on SCD the reactions can sometimes be quicker to see. Bonita Re: Salicylate sensitivity After looking over these websites, I think I need to take another look at salycilates and what my son might be reacting to-I've never taken cinnamon out of his diet for instance. So how does one go about diagnosing-is it trial and error? I've been looking at hyperactivity and red ears, cheeks etc., but am wondering if there is a simpler way, like a test. Ben is always hyper, so that makes it hard to pinpoint. Teena Ben age 4 SCD 10months ASD, hyperactivity disorder, dyspraxia, Apraxia, SPD, leaky gut, candidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Hi Bonita- Was that just a regular scratch test for food llergies? We have done both that one and IGg, but Ben's results were confusing-as in he reacted to everything they tried. Was that your experience? The IGg helped more, and he's not eating any of the foods on that list, but would sal. sensitivity show up on a test like that? Teena -- In pecanbread , " Bonita Todd " wrote: > > Trial and error, food journals and such. . .Salicylate sensitivites are more subtle than food allergies and such. For my son, it is a slower build up. It could take a day or so before I see the effect of a sal. However if you mixed more than 1 sal in a food (say for instance 2 different high sal spices) the reaction was explosive. I couldn't really tell for sure until skin test food allergies (my son has several) and then taking all high sal things out of his diet and trying them 1 at a time. The 4 day rule is a very good one to follow when the reaction can be long coming. From what others have told me, as you continue on SCD the reactions can sometimes be quicker to see. > > Bonita > Re: Salicylate sensitivity > > > After looking over these websites, I think I need to take another look at > salycilates and what my son might be reacting to-I've never taken cinnamon > out of his diet for instance. So how does one go about diagnosing- is it > trial and error? I've been looking at hyperactivity and red ears, cheeks > etc., but am wondering if there is a simpler way, like a test. Ben is always > hyper, so that makes it hard to pinpoint. > > Teena > > Ben age 4 SCD 10months > > ASD, hyperactivity disorder, dyspraxia, Apraxia, SPD, leaky gut, candidas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Teena, Unfortunately no, there is no test for it. My son was having sal issues in addition to food allergies. It wasn't until I finally had the skin tests for food allergies that I was able to put all of the pieces together. I still have a lot more food allergies to test. I have them tested before I feed them to my son. That way I know before he eats them it is a sal or food sensitivity issue if he reacts (of course, aside from too advanced for him). The problem with my son is that all his food issues manifest themselves in his behavior - intolerance, sal's, food allergies, sensitivities, etc. He gets no skin rash of any kind, no nose, breathing, etc. His food allergies are mostly light, but make his a nuts-o boy, so he still can't have them. I liked the skin test as it gave me a clear picture of his actual, real histamine reaction. Histamine reactions whether it be animal, food or environmental are horrible for him. I thought about the IgG testing, but it is so-oo-o-o-oo expensive and the ins co pays the skin tests 100% and they are temporary or the come and go. Honestly, between the food allergies (not IgG intolerances or sensitivities), the stages on SCD and sal issues, there's not much room left for worrying about food rotations and IgG things. I figured it this way, skin test histamine food allergies and not temporary and the least expensive option so that was easier to get out of the way. The others are much more difficult to figure out. I understand how difficult it can be. The allergist said, just give him allergy meds and let him eat it, but I can't because of his behavior. The skin tests are what dr's consider permanent and IgG can come and go. The sal issue is permanent - many on SCD longer term have said it gets better as the gut heals. I hope to discover it one day. It was not until I eliminated the food positive for skin test allergies that I saw the No Phenol and Phenol Assist enzymes help his sal issues. I hope all this doesn't just confuse you more. Hope it helps. You can email me off list if you need more detailed info from my personal experience. Bonita Re: Salicylate sensitivity > > > After looking over these websites, I think I need to take another look at > salycilates and what my son might be reacting to-I've never taken cinnamon > out of his diet for instance. So how does one go about diagnosing- is it > trial and error? I've been looking at hyperactivity and red ears, cheeks > etc., but am wondering if there is a simpler way, like a test. Ben is always > hyper, so that makes it hard to pinpoint. > > Teena > > Ben age 4 SCD 10months > > ASD, hyperactivity disorder, dyspraxia, Apraxia, SPD, leaky gut, candidas > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Bonita, Could you talk a bit about the enzymes that you use? I hear them mentioned on this list a great deal, but am confused by what they are and how they are used. Thanks, Mom to Sailor Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and colitis since birth SCD since 10/07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 , There are 2 companies that make enzymes for salicylate sensitivity issues. The products are Phenol Assist by Kirkman and No Phenol I think by Houston. When you have sal issues, you can't break them down (that's a very basic idea) but maybe not scientific. I've had a headache for 5 or 6 Re: Salicylate sensitivity Bonita, Could you talk a bit about the enzymes that you use? I hear them mentioned on this list a great deal, but am confused by what they are and how they are used. Thanks, Mom to Sailor Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and colitis since birth SCD since 10/07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (part 2, sorry about that) I've had a headache for a while and its too painful to think too much. Your body is basically short on the enzymes that break the sal's down. Then of course you have all the sal reactions. If it is a minor reaction, some deal with it until their gut heals more and it gets better. However, my son is incredibly sensitive. He gets tics from just the carrots alone. So, you can give them the No Phenol or Phenol Assist that has the enzymes in them that will break down the sal's in foods so your body can digest them. They are not a miracle cure for my son, but they do help with the tics and behavioral problems as a result of the sal intolerance. He still can't have a lot of really high sal foods or the spices, but he can have pineapple and oj and a little bit of honey and a few other things that are higher in sals. I can make him a veggie juice (the big way I get calcium and vit C in him) of carrots, kale, broccoli, purple cabbage or give him orange juice/pineapple and he gets overstimulated and goes nuts and has tics. but with the enzymes he's okay. A life with only low or negligible sal's is nearly impossible to do and low or negligible are all he tolerates without enzymes. Some people say they don't work for them, but it is a little help for my son and therefore worth it. There are quite a few other enzymes for difficulty with proteins, fats and other things too. Its amazing what is available. It literally took me 5 years of research and experimentation with my sons diet (on my own) to figure out all his issues. He's 8 now. Hope that helps. Bonita Re: Salicylate sensitivity Bonita, Could you talk a bit about the enzymes that you use? I hear them mentioned on this list a great deal, but am confused by what they are and how they are used. Thanks, Mom to Sailor Hypotonia, dyspraxia, SPD, and colitis since birth SCD since 10/07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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