Guest guest Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. Thank you, Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Tina - have you done any testing around methylation? Also, are these b-12 shots or methyl b12 shots? RuthSent from my iPhone Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. Thank you, Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure.She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. All my best,Colleen Colleen Chien To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. Thank you, Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Your source of the injections can make a difference. I'd check to see if your pharmacy is on Dr Neubrander's site as 'approved' for the protocol. It will also explain administration of the shots if you want tho go over that. The form of B12 makes a difference. Methyl B-12 is what you want. Are you giving Methyl Folate along with it? Or Leucovorin injections? If not, you could try that. It is complimentary to the methylation cycle and can really help our kids. Liam's mom Please excuse the typos. Sent from my phone. From: tjcam114@... ; To: <mb12valtrex >; Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Sent: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 6:37:47 PM Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. Thank you, Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Thanks Ruth, they are the methyl b12 shots. And no our biomedical Dr. hasn't done any methylation testing as of yet. Any specific test you'd recommend I ask for? Thanks! -- In mb12valtrex , Ruth Setlak wrote: > > Tina - have you done any testing around methylation? Also, are these b-12 shots or methyl b12 shots? > > Ruth > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > > Thank you, > > Tina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 There are a couple of gene mutations (MAOA and COMT) that yasko says if you/your child has you should avoid methyl groups. My son doesn't have these and does fine on MB12 while my daughter does have double mutations and got more aggressive with MB12. If I were you, I would stop the MB12 shots. You may want to try other forms of B12. For example, my daughter does fine on hydroxy B12. > > > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > > Thank you, > > Tina > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article?http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Enviado via iPadEm 28/10/2012, às 22:49, "tjcam114@..." escreveu: I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yes it can cause aggression and anger. Are you giving Folapro or 5MTHF? Some thoughts:1. It's always a good idea to trial MB12 shots for 5 weeks (per Neubrander).2. Try also using 5MTHF or Folapro. It's more bioavailable than regular folic or folinic.3. May want to try spacing the shots out more.My son was only able to tolerate the shots for about 1 year. He needed A LOT of MB12 during most of that year tho. * * * Cheryl * * * ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~~ Join the MB12Valtrex Yahoo! Group ~ I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hi Cristina,I just read the article, thanks for sharing it!!To all: My daughter took the MB12 shots for a year (every 3 days) with no apparent results. During the last 6 weeks of that treatment, I gave it to her every 2 days, per doctor's recommendation... no changes either.I guess she is in the 6% of non-responder's group... it awalys make me wonder whether I did everything as I should, or if I failed in some detail, somehow... But even the pharmacy I used is the same as the one recommended in the article (Hopewell Pharmacy). The way of applying in, the dosis, everthing I did was just like the article describes!Now I have been thinking about the MB12 Sprays. At that time, her doctor wanted us to try the injections as he believes the sprays are not so effective. But I have a friend whose son has improved a great deal with a mouth spray. And the founder of this group is a big promoter (and inventor?) of the nasal spray... right?Can anybody tell me their experiences with those sprays? Specially if someone has tried the injections and also the spray, and how would you compare the results?Thank you all!Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: cristina_doto@...Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:52:06 -0200Subject: Re: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article?http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Enviado via iPadEm 28/10/2012, às 22:49, "tjcam114@..." escreveu: I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 True. I have one that was given MB12 shots close to the beginning of his recovery journey, and he got worse for 5 weeks. The 6th week, he started talking much better. It was nice. We noticed that he would lose his gains right before his next shot was due, so we switched to Kirkman's powder, and he then kept his improved speech consistently, as long as he got his daily dose. Heidi N You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article? http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Thanks, Lina!! Very good to know that!!To: mb12valtrex From: lnakawa@...Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:49:49 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Stan Kurtz (the founder of this group) used mb12 spray coz injections didn't work, my son used it 6 months (twice a weak) without noticable improvement, so me too..I'm thinking to use mb12 spray.lina To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Hi Cristina,I just read the article, thanks for sharing it!!To all: My daughter took the MB12 shots for a year (every 3 days) with no apparent results. During the last 6 weeks of that treatment, I gave it to her every 2 days, per doctor's recommendation... no changes either.I guess she is in the 6% of non-responder's group... it awalys make me wonder whether I did everything as I should, or if I failed in some detail, somehow... But even the pharmacy I used is the same as the one recommended in the article (Hopewell Pharmacy). The way of applying in, the dosis, everthing I did was just like the article describes!Now I have been thinking about the MB12 Sprays. At that time, her doctor wanted us to try the injections as he believes the sprays are not so effective. But I have a friend whose son has improved a great deal with a mouth spray. And the founder of this group is a big promoter (and inventor?) of the nasal spray... right?Can anybody tell me their experiences with those sprays? Specially if someone has tried the injections and also the spray, and how would you compare the results?Thank you all!Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: cristina_doto@...Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:52:06 -0200Subject: Re: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article?http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Enviado via iPadEm 28/10/2012, às 22:49, "tjcam114@..." escreveu: I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Yes, see: http://www.stankurtz.com/biomedical/mb12-nasal-spray-summary.html Somebody here had great resoults with hydroxyB12...Enviado via iPadEm 29/10/2012, às 14:49, Lina Nakawa escreveu: Stan Kurtz (the founder of this group) used mb12 spray coz injections didn't work, my son used it 6 months (twice a weak) without noticable improvement, so me too..I'm thinking to use mb12 spray.lina To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Hi Cristina,I just read the article, thanks for sharing it!!To all: My daughter took the MB12 shots for a year (every 3 days) with no apparent results. During the last 6 weeks of that treatment, I gave it to her every 2 days, per doctor's recommendation... no changes either.I guess she is in the 6% of non-responder's group... it awalys make me wonder whether I did everything as I should, or if I failed in some detail, somehow... But even the pharmacy I used is the same as the one recommended in the article (Hopewell Pharmacy). The way of applying in, the dosis, everthing I did was just like the article describes!Now I have been thinking about the MB12 Sprays. At that time, her doctor wanted us to try the injections as he believes the sprays are not so effective. But I have a friend whose son has improved a great deal with a mouth spray. And the founder of this group is a big promoter (and inventor?) of the nasal spray... right?Can anybody tell me their experiences with those sprays? Specially if someone has tried the injections and also the spray, and how would you compare the results?Thank you all!Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: cristina_doto@...Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:52:06 -0200Subject: Re: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article?http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Enviado via iPadEm 28/10/2012, às 22:49, "tjcam114@..." escreveu: I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes, sometimes it's not mb12 you need. Sometimes it's HB12 or even a combo of both. Typically you'll find better answers in this area with Yasko's genetic testing. * * * Cheryl * * * ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~~ Join the MB12Valtrex Yahoo! Group ~ Yes, see: http://www.stankurtz.com/biomedical/mb12-nasal-spray-summary.html Somebody here had great resoults with hydroxyB12...Enviado via iPadEm 29/10/2012, às 14:49, Lina Nakawa escreveu: Stan Kurtz (the founder of this group) used mb12 spray coz injections didn't work, my son used it 6 months (twice a weak) without noticable improvement, so me too..I'm thinking to use mb12 spray.lina To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Hi Cristina,I just read the article, thanks for sharing it!!To all: My daughter took the MB12 shots for a year (every 3 days) with no apparent results. During the last 6 weeks of that treatment, I gave it to her every 2 days, per doctor's recommendation... no changes either.I guess she is in the 6% of non-responder's group... it awalys make me wonder whether I did everything as I should, or if I failed in some detail, somehow... But even the pharmacy I used is the same as the one recommended in the article (Hopewell Pharmacy). The way of applying in, the dosis, everthing I did was just like the article describes!Now I have been thinking about the MB12 Sprays. At that time, her doctor wanted us to try the injections as he believes the sprays are not so effective. But I have a friend whose son has improved a great deal with a mouth spray. And the founder of this group is a big promoter (and inventor?) of the nasal spray... right?Can anybody tell me their experiences with those sprays? Specially if someone has tried the injections and also the spray, and how would you compare the results?Thank you all!Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: cristina_doto@...Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:52:06 -0200Subject: Re: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did You read This article?http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Enviado via iPadEm 28/10/2012, às 22:49, "tjcam114@..." escreveu: I haven't yet seen any benefits but we've only given him 4 shots so far. Do you think we would be seeing benefits by now?thank you! > > Hi Tina: Have you seen any benefits from the B12 shots? Â We analyze whether the gains/progress made with the new medication outweighs the negative side effects. Â If so, continue on and hope that the adverse effects fade. Â If it is so unbearable, then we either discuss decreasing dosage with physician or discontinuing and trying again at a later stage to see if it has a better result. Â With these medications, what happens to one child is so unpredictable--I find it best to look at your child individually. Â For example, my daughter was on naltrexone cream prior to being chelated and as we ramped up on the dose to achieve the desired dosage, she had insomnia (getting up at 4:30 am). Â This interfered with her progress on so many levels that after decreasing the dose and not realizing much benefit from the medication over all, we just discontinued it. Â LDN didn't work for her, but works so well for many others...Go figure. > She is what we consider recovered now -- mainstreamed in Kindergarten, doing very well w/o an aide. Â > All my best, > Colleen > Â > Colleen Chien > > > ________________________________ > > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:37 AM > Subject: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression > > > Â > Hello all, my son is 5 with ASD. He was an angry and sometimes aggressive little boy until we started him on LDN. This has worked wonderfully for him. He wakes up happy, no longer screaming, throwing things, crying over small things, or hitting. This was until a few weeks ago when we started the b12 shots. Almost immediately his aggressive behaviors and anger came back. I am tempted to stop the b12 shots. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The Dr said b12 would help him be more social since he is extremely shy and avoids people whenever possible so I don't want to give up if it may still help. > Thank you, > Tina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Dear Heidi when you say kirkman powder what do you mean what powder? Thank you Shyo > > True. I have one that was given MB12 shots close to the beginning of > his recovery journey, and he got worse for 5 weeks. The 6th week, he > started talking much better. It was nice. We noticed that he would > lose his gains right before his next shot was due, so we switched to > Kirkman's powder, and he then kept his improved speech consistently, as > long as he got his daily dose. > > Heidi N > > > You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did > You read This article? > > http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-meth\ ylation-issues/ > <http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-met\ hylation-issues/> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Would love to know this answer too, about the Kirkman B12 Powder.Thanks! Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: shayo112009@...Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:14:07 +0000Subject: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Dear Heidi when you say kirkman powder what do you mean what powder? Thank you Shyo > > True. I have one that was given MB12 shots close to the beginning of > his recovery journey, and he got worse for 5 weeks. The 6th week, he > started talking much better. It was nice. We noticed that he would > lose his gains right before his next shot was due, so we switched to > Kirkman's powder, and he then kept his improved speech consistently, as > long as he got his daily dose. > > Heidi N > > > You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did > You read This article? > > http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/ > <http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Dr. Neubrander recomends DR.N'S POWDER, avaliable at Kirkman.Cristina De: Xexa Ipanema Luz Para: MB12Valtrex Yahoo Group <mb12valtrex > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2012 13:35 Assunto: RE: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Would love to know this answer too, about the Kirkman B12 Powder.Thanks! Xexa To: mb12valtrex From: shayo112009@...Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:14:07 +0000Subject: Re: Can B12 shots cause anger and aggression Dear Heidi when you say kirkman powder what do you mean what powder? Thank you Shyo > > True. I have one that was given MB12 shots close to the beginning of > his recovery journey, and he got worse for 5 weeks. The 6th week, he > started talking much better. It was nice. We noticed that he would > lose his gains right before his next shot was due, so we switched to > Kirkman's powder, and he then kept his improved speech consistently, as > long as he got his daily dose. > > Heidi N > > > You have to wait 6 weeks to see if your child is a mb12 responder. Did > You read This article? > > http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/ > <http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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