Re: best treatment for autism

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is a ton of work and change. We are all busy in our lives.

What I did was just one step at a time. I started off with just not

buying wheat. I tried those gluten-free wheat breads, but I didn't like

them either. But, I do make home-made bread from bread mixes bought at

the health food stores. You can make gluten-free biscuits, cookies,

pancakes, cakes, etc. We like Pamela's brand. We did go dairy free,

but in the end, only one family member in our house needs to be dairy

free. All of us benefit from going gluten-free. We only eat organic as

well. I would rather eat nothing, than garbage foods now. For drinks,

besides organic juices and yes, even organic soda, we drink green tea

with organic sugar. I can not tolerate black tea; it makes me very

fatigued the next day. Green tea does not have this effect. Anyhow, it's

cheap to consume. Just change your habits over time, in that you can

start buying just some organic or healthier foods, and then keep on the

trail until you know you are eating healthy. I can really tell the

difference between organic and non-organic, and that just shouldn't be

as easy as it is for me. So, obviously, non-organic is awful. Keep in

mind that 50% of males, and 30% of females get cancer. So, even if you

don't eat healthy to combat autism, do it to help ward off cancer.

Heidi N

I adore all of you who can apply these diets.

> I once read that if GFCF is done, then it should be done very

strictly. Even the tiniest parts of G/C must be avoided otherwise it

would always throw the diet back if " accidents " happen.

> Hmm... honestly, how can this be done ?

> We tried our best best but I am sure we could not achieve a %100 GFCF

diet.

[Guest guest]

Do not use sugar full stop!! Try organic honey or steviaSent from my iPhone

I just forgot to mention in my list below: we also used Nystatin for a while and saw neither a die-off nor any improvement.

during this Nystatin phase we also cut down sugar to an absolut minimum, in order to starve out the yeast.

I hear so many times "it must be yeast" but on the other hand there is no reliable proof for this.

The lab tests may not give reliable results. I once read about a test. A stool sample was brought directly to the lab within some hours and from the same stool another sample was sent via courier which arrived next day. The "fresh" sample showed up Candida but the delayed one didn't show Candida.

OK, if the lab tests are not reliable, shall I (we) then just believe that there must be "yeast" ?

Please do not get me wrong but I find it hard to start a treatment just based on beliefs.

.....and in all these things, another challenge we have is that my Son doesn't swallow pills/Capsules (unless they taste like gummybears :-)

So, this is another limiting factor for administering too many supplements.

Mesut

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > First all want to say that nothing has cured my family. Treatments reduce loads of pathogens and toxins, but symptoms can always return when treatments are stopped. Relapse rates are high. I have heard stories of people who had been recovered for years, off of everything and then relapsed into full autism symptoms. Thus, the vulnerability will always remain in most. But, to get them healthy, it's what I described. It's not a good idea to start off with strong things, since the die-off will be great. So, gentler antimicrobials are better to start off with. I think if you took any herb off the shelf, you can research that it kills some things, and aids in some part of the body. So, not sure which are better than others. I have tried so many. I like using the ones that are considered the safest or just foods (Goji, grape skin, dandelion, etc.). There is so much to learn just from Klinghardt, that most could never find the time to do all the treatments

> > > > > he talks about. I stick to what I have said, it's more doing things correctly than what you choose to do. Our children have many pathogens, and there are too many things to list in one's lifetime will treat a group of them. The issue is doing it safely and correctly. I think the recovery docs are very helpful. My main foundation was Klinghardt, Lee Cowden, and Buhner. But, in reality, it could have been others. If you Google the names I just mentioned, you will find lots of information about reducing pathogens and toxins.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I could mention using this and that, but everything helped for awhile and then we moved on and used other things, and in the end, all the little helps added up. It's important to understand that you are treating the body systems, and no particular item is going to do that. Everything given is to be part of a plan. So, I can not say salmon is better than cod or another EFA, but yes, it's very important to know that most are benefiting from EFA's. It's important to learn how they work, and all the choices. We recently have been using black seed oil, but it may be too strong for some if they are early in their journey. So, keep reading the forum posts and seeking practitioners until you feel a plan emerging in you. Because the recovery journey is long, you will have plenty of time to use different brands and different treatments. But, there are some who choose homeopathy or stem cell surgery or something else that uses only one thing. It still takes a

> > > > > while to recover, but just saying, there are also routes that only use one method. But, even they work for some and not others.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Heidi N

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Gaps is hard to start wth but once u get on wth it it helps a LOTSent from my iPhone

I adore all of you who can apply these diets.

I once read that if GFCF is done, then it should be done very strictly. Even the tiniest parts of G/C must be avoided otherwise it would always throw the diet back if "accidents" happen.

Hmm... honestly, how can this be done ?

We tried our best best but I am sure we could not achieve a %100 GFCF diet.

How is it with GAPS ? is it that strict as well ?

........

I just had a look at the website again and there it says "...You should not do the GAPS Diet unless you are willing to fully commit to doing it properly and are willing to stick it out for 2 years if necessary. "

Such strong statements are terrifying me.

So, if I do the diet as good as possible but still do not see any gains in 5-6 months, do I have to continue for longer time ?? or maybe there are some foods that we took accidentally and that was the reason for not working ??

It is easy to define many and very hard rules (look at list of foods to be avoided - puhh) and then say "it didn't work since you broke the diet here and there" or "you didn't follwo it for 2 years".

As a parent, I want to be encouraged to follow the diet to see gains and also understand what happens if we have an "accident".

What is the real consequence of such accidents ?

Is it really that bad or is it tolerable ?

(I hope I could explain what I mean)

thanks

Mesut

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have some people emailing me off list on what is the best course to take, but I like to share with everyone. I have actually wrote a book, and will one day publish it. I am not sure why I keep putting it off, since I finished writing it 3 years ago. But, anyhow, I want to share some tips because many did this for me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After 6 years of research, I would have to say that mercury is the main contributor. But. . . many report dumping mercury and other toxins when they treat for worms, viruses, bacteria, etc. so chelation is not the only way. Some people report that treating for pathogens rids more toxins than chelation. I am not voting, just repeating. If I had to do it all over again, with my same knowledge now, I would skip some treatments that were too much too soon. Recovery is quicker when you go slower. I would also focus more in homeopathy. Getting the immune system rebalanced is very difficult, and I had to learn to and still do, ignore the junk medical reports in the newspaper and the typical thinking that bacteria can be killed with a couple of weeks of antibiotics in unhealthy folks. Chronic conditions are a totally different thing. They need chronic (long-term) treatments.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury is not acting alone. There are pathogens involved, pleomorphic without a doubt. Pleomorphic means the pathogen changes to overcome and adapt to it's environment. This is the only thing that can explain why our children respond for a few days or weeks or even months to a treatment, and then the symptoms return. Also, this explains why they fluctuate in and out of symptoms. I think the mercury's lead role is that it hampers our bodies

[Guest guest]

Hi

GAPS as I understand it, like all diets, through the removal of all the harmful

things exposes your gut, and increasing all the the good things. We have

experienced this sensitivity, as the more we remove the more my son is reacting

to of the limited range of foods left!

We are now starting GAPS because:-

1.it has a structure for reintroduction that is measured and gradual,

2.because it includes healing things at the same time that heal (not just

exclude like other diets). Ohter diets haven't healed his gut just by removal.

Our GAPS consultant's son is now no longer low oxalate for eg. (we are low

oxalate because of my son.)

One GAPS consultant explained to me that she and her family have been on it for

some time, and they were up to the stage where they could very slowly start to

introduce sour dough bread, and her husband (who is on it just because the

family is) had 1/2 a pice, when off to work and came back 10mins later vomiting

and was sick the whole day.

SO we are finding out that it is a dangerous path to follow to remove the

intolerances, as we are gathering more and more. We are trying GAPS in the

promise of healing. The 2 years sounds good to us, as we are so restricted now.

It makes sense that it takes this long. BUT as always proof is the doing, but

in our case my sons intolerances are growing not healing by removal. I have

found that he is a gut boy, and have concentrated the intervention to address

this.

For me this is what I have found: to find out where your child went wrong/off

course, and try and fix it. It will be different for many of our kids. But I

am still learning, and my kid is not recovered like many of yours, but I am

trying!!!

kristen

Australia

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have some people emailing me off list on what is the best

course to take, but I like to share with everyone. I have actually wrote a book,

and will one day publish it. I am not sure why I keep putting it off, since I

finished writing it 3 years ago. But, anyhow, I want to share some tips because

many did this for me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > After 6 years of research, I would have to say that mercury

is the main contributor. But. . . many report dumping mercury and other toxins

when they treat for worms, viruses, bacteria, etc. so chelation is not the only

way. Some people report that treating for pathogens rids more toxins than

chelation. I am not voting, just repeating. If I had to do it all over again,

with my same knowledge now, I would skip some treatments that were too much too

soon. Recovery is quicker when you go slower. I would also focus more in

homeopathy. Getting the immune system rebalanced is very difficult, and I had to

learn to and still do, ignore the junk medical reports in the newspaper and the

typical thinking that bacteria can be killed with a couple of weeks of

antibiotics in unhealthy folks. Chronic conditions are a totally different

thing. They need chronic (long-term) treatments.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mercury is not acting alone. There are pathogens involved,

pleomorphic without a doubt. Pleomorphic means the pathogen changes to overcome

and adapt to it's environment. This is the only thing that can explain why our

children respond for a few days or weeks or even months to a treatment, and then

the symptoms return. Also, this explains why they fluctuate in and out of

symptoms. I think the mercury's lead role is that it hampers our bodies

>