Guest guest Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Hi Sabina, I am Herlean, 34 (until later this month). I live in Ohio with my DH, Bill. Welcome to the group. I was reading just the other day that Splenda is okay during pregnancy, but no artificial sweetener should be taken in excess. I was wondering the same thing about my protein shakes, since they have NutraSweet in them. I know they are good for my own protein, but I don't know if I should drink them during pregnancy. I am looking forward to hearing the responses. --- sabinaharvey wrote: > > > Hello, I am new to this list and so I thought I > would introduce > myself. My name is Sabina and I live in Melbourne, > Australia. I am > originally from Texas, but have lived here since > last year, when I > crossed the Pacific to marry an Aussie. > > I had a proximal RNY three years ago, in Houston. I > am 5'4 " and > weighed 314 at the time. I am still 5'4 " , which is > unfortunate, b/c I > had hoped to shoot up to 5'7 " after the surgery :-), > but I now weigh > 145-147 depending on the day. I am turning 40 next > month (much to my > dismay!) and have no children. My husband was a > sperm donor ten years > ago, and so has sperm set aside for him at a > fertility clinic here in > Melbourne. He wants to use this sperm rather than > his current, b/c he > figures it is better since it is younger. Anyway, we > are going to > begin this process in January. As far as I know, I > am fertile, but I > have never been pregnant. I was married before, and > trying to > conceive, but it turned out that my former spouse > was infertile. > > I haven't read the archives yet, but I am looking > forward to learning > what I can from this group, and offering any useful > knowledge that I > have gained from my own experience. One thing I am > wondering... > I drink 3-4 protein shakes a day, which are whey, > and use Stevia (or > Splenda, I forget which) as a sweetener. I count on > these to keep my > protein levels up, and my carb intake low. Do you > all have any reason > to think that we should not continue using shakes > during pregnancy, or > are they okay? Also, in general, have most of you > who have become > pregnant and given birth since WLS been able to > provide yourself and > your child the nutrients you both needed (esp. iron, > folate, B12) or > did you have difficulties? > > Thank you and warm regards, > Sabina Harvey > > > > > > > ===== " Wherever I AM, GOD Is...and All is Well. " ; 2004 - Master of Science; 2000 - B.Sc.; 1999 - Married to DH, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 > Hi Sabina, > > I am Herlean, 34 (until later this month). I live in > Ohio with my DH, Bill. > > Welcome to the group. > > I was reading just the other day that Splenda is okay > during pregnancy, but no artificial sweetener should > be taken in excess. I was wondering the same thing > about my protein shakes, since they have NutraSweet in > them. I know they are good for my own protein, but I > don't know if I should drink them during pregnancy. > > I am looking forward to hearing the responses. Hi Herlean, not everyone agrees with me, and I try to be a very natural food person and avoid processed foods as much as possible, but there is significant research that shows Splenda, Ace-K (known as Sunnet and used in a lot of Atkins brand products) and nutrasweet have side effects. The FDA officials that approve these sweeteners stay on the boards for a few years then almost EVERY TIME end up working for the law firms that represent and are sometimes owned by the companies that make these 3 artificial sweeteners. The research showing them to be safe is all short term studies and are done by the companies themselves and not independent researchers. I avoid them and wouldn't let my unborn baby be the guinea pig for these chemicals. read http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/jul/21/splenda.htm for more info. I personally stopped using it and hubby and I switched entirely to honey and Stevia use (Stevia is a natural grown sugar replacement that actually helps diabetics lower insulin resistance) I used splenda 4 times and EACH time I had severe neurological reactions that lasted for day. I do have a neurological disprder but I hate that splenda is creeping into so many foods and not mandated to label them as containing it because I and so many others have severe reactions to it, hand tremors, speech problems, seizures and headaches and more. I don't mean to scare you but chlorinated sugar is not your friend... Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 As a diabetic, natural sugar is not necessarily my friend. At least nowadays sugar is not 100% forbidden. However, in order to include natural sugar (think table sugar, honey, brown sugar, etc.) to my food choices, more monitoring (finger pricks) and possibly more medication (insulin) is needed. I actually spoke to my doctor today and we discussed carbs (incl. sugar) and how they affect my blood sugars and pregnancy. Artificial sweeteners offer me some way to get through the day. If I have to cut them out for a healthy baby, I will do what I can. I have never used stevia. Honey affects my blood sugar just like table sugar. It all has to be monitored. Thanks for the info. Herlean --- minxkely wrote: > > > > Hi Sabina, > > > > I am Herlean, 34 (until later this month). I live > in > > Ohio with my DH, Bill. > > > > Welcome to the group. > > > > I was reading just the other day that Splenda is > okay > > during pregnancy, but no artificial sweetener > should > > be taken in excess. I was wondering the same > thing > > about my protein shakes, since they have > NutraSweet in > > them. I know they are good for my own protein, > but I > > don't know if I should drink them during > pregnancy. > > > > I am looking forward to hearing the responses. > > Hi Herlean, > not everyone agrees with me, and I try to be a very > natural food > person and avoid processed foods as much as > possible, but there is > significant research that shows Splenda, Ace-K > (known as Sunnet and > used in a lot of Atkins brand products) and > nutrasweet have side > effects. The FDA officials that approve these > sweeteners stay on the > boards for a few years then almost EVERY TIME end up > working for the > law firms that represent and are sometimes owned by > the companies that > make these 3 artificial sweeteners. The research > showing them to be > safe is all short term studies and are done by the > companies > themselves and not independent researchers. I avoid > them and wouldn't > let my unborn baby be the guinea pig for these > chemicals. > > read > http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/jul/21/splenda.htm > for more info. I personally stopped using it and > hubby and I switched > entirely to honey and Stevia use (Stevia is a > natural grown sugar > replacement that actually helps diabetics lower > insulin resistance) I > used splenda 4 times and EACH time I had severe > neurological reactions > that lasted for day. I do have a neurological > disprder but I hate > that splenda is creeping into so many foods and not > mandated to label > them as containing it because I and so many others > have severe > reactions to it, hand tremors, speech problems, > seizures and headaches > and more. > I don't mean to scare you but chlorinated sugar is > not your friend... > Colleen > > > > ===== " Wherever I AM, GOD Is...and All is Well. " ; 2004 - Master of Science; 2000 - B.Sc.; 1999 - Married to DH, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 > As a diabetic, natural sugar is not necessarily my > friend. At least nowadays sugar is not 100% > forbidden. However, in order to include natural sugar > (think table sugar, honey, brown sugar, etc.) to my > food choices, more monitoring (finger pricks) and > possibly more medication (insulin) is needed. > > I actually spoke to my doctor today and we discussed > carbs (incl. sugar) and how they affect my blood > sugars and pregnancy. > > Artificial sweeteners offer me some way to get through > the day. If I have to cut them out for a healthy > baby, I will do what I can. I have never used stevia. > Honey affects my blood sugar just like table sugar. > It all has to be monitored. > > Thanks for the info. > > Herlean I was a diabetic and it has all but disappeared from the morning of my bypass and onward but hubby is still diabetic. I was insulin dependant for 5 years or so so I know all about controlling our sugar intake. Good blood sugar control and attention to our diet is crucial. the monitoring can be tedious but if it keeps us alive and healthy, it's what we do. I have the freestyle monitor that at least takes blood from the forearm and not fignertips. it's almost painles at least and uses so much less of a blood drop. no more bruised fingertips. I've been monitoring my numbers 4 times a day for the last month sicne I couldn't take the glucose tolerance test my docs wanted me to monitor this way and I was willing. The thing is artificial sweeteners are often WORSE for you as a diabetic than sugar can be. A sucralose study of diabetic patients using the sweetener showed a statistically significant increase in glycosylated hemoglobin (Hba1C) According to the FDA, " increases in glycosolation in hemoglobin imply lessening of control of diabetes. Stevia in contrast has long term (10 yrs and more) studies showing it DECREASES insulin resistance and improves our effective insulin receptor activity. Stevia has been used in central america for over 100 years with NO documented side effects, absolutely none. Splenda has only been in our markets since 1998 and the reactions are piling up in the tens of thousands documented reactions, how many more people are having these reactions and not connecting them to the right reason? Aspartame has a similar history and is now KNOWN to cause formaldehyde in the brain, blackouts, deaths... please at least read the info. If you need to go sugar free then try stevia. It doesn't have the drug companies in its back pocket and billions are not being made off its production. It's been used in the soft drinks in mexico and Asia for the better part of a century. You can cook with it without breakdown of dangerous elements unlike the chlorine atoms that humans absorb when cooking with Splenda.. anyway only you can decide what to do but you asked for opinions so that's mine (and Dr. Mercola, Dr. Janet Hull, etc etc etc) Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Dear Sabina, Well good luck, I can only tell you prior to WLS it took me almost a year at my heavy weight and that was not my HEAVIEST, to get pregnant, when my husband and I decide this time (I am 41) to try again it took no time, we tried twice without protection - BAM it was done, no thinking that over. It has been a very nice pregnancy and I have gained a moderate amount of weight and still take my vitamins, but less (the OB doctors worry about too much of certain vitamins hurting the fetus) but it has been great my baby is very healthy according to tests, the biggest draw back - my age, alot of tests are done just because I am 41. But I have had no deficiencys at all. I always try to get my protein in first when eatng for the baby and myself. I don't do protein shakes well at all never have. But I have used protein bars on occasion. I think you will find you will be better able to handle this pregnancy with the weight gone. My first pregancy I gained 85 lbs I was huge and it was horrible, this time I am 31 weeks and have gained 14lbs. I feel much better all around. Best of luck to you! Sherry in Florida WLS 1/2/03 Pre-Pregnancy weight 140 lbs Due Date 1/12/05 > > > Hello, I am new to this list and so I thought I would introduce > myself. My name is Sabina and I live in Melbourne, Australia. I am > originally from Texas, but have lived here since last year, when I > crossed the Pacific to marry an Aussie. > > I had a proximal RNY three years ago, in Houston. I am 5'4 " and > weighed 314 at the time. I am still 5'4 " , which is unfortunate, b/c I > had hoped to shoot up to 5'7 " after the surgery :-), but I now weigh > 145-147 depending on the day. I am turning 40 next month (much to my > dismay!) and have no children. My husband was a sperm donor ten years > ago, and so has sperm set aside for him at a fertility clinic here in > Melbourne. He wants to use this sperm rather than his current, b/c he > figures it is better since it is younger. Anyway, we are going to > begin this process in January. As far as I know, I am fertile, but I > have never been pregnant. I was married before, and trying to > conceive, but it turned out that my former spouse was infertile. > > I haven't read the archives yet, but I am looking forward to learning > what I can from this group, and offering any useful knowledge that I > have gained from my own experience. One thing I am wondering... > I drink 3-4 protein shakes a day, which are whey, and use Stevia (or > Splenda, I forget which) as a sweetener. I count on these to keep my > protein levels up, and my carb intake low. Do you all have any reason > to think that we should not continue using shakes during pregnancy, or > are they okay? Also, in general, have most of you who have become > pregnant and given birth since WLS been able to provide yourself and > your child the nutrients you both needed (esp. iron, folate, B12) or > did you have difficulties? > > Thank you and warm regards, > Sabina Harvey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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