Guest guest Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Lord...seehttp://vaccines.mercola.com/Please share your conclusions.Enviado via iPadEm 12/12/2012, Ã s 23:49, Irma Sahdala escreveu: Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 No, NO, NO !!! > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Most of the autism stories I have read say the worst vaccine is the MMR. My new pediatrician believes in delaying vaccines and told me that if you must get the MMR, make sure you go to a compunding pharmacy that will split the vaccine into 3 seperate shots and then administer the shots one at time with a few months in between them. But if I were in your shoes I dont think I would get it at all or may in a few years when my child is completely off the spectrum. Take care. > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I agree 100% with the opinion below!To: mb12valtrex From: adeook@...Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:04:17 +0000Subject: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD Most of the autism stories I have read say the worst vaccine is the MMR. My new pediatrician believes in delaying vaccines and told me that if you must get the MMR, make sure you go to a compunding pharmacy that will split the vaccine into 3 seperate shots and then administer the shots one at time with a few months in between them. But if I were in your shoes I dont think I would get it at all or may in a few years when my child is completely off the spectrum. Take care. > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 hello, your doc must going on school again, i never trust doctor's, and you must never do the same mistake to give your son the MMR. cause my daugter regress after the one shout of the MMR.good luck radia De : beelive2013 À : mb12valtrex Envoyé le : jeudi 13 décembre 2012 10h04 Objet : Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD Most of the autism stories I have read say the worst vaccine is the MMR. My new pediatrician believes in delaying vaccines and told me that if you must get the MMR, make sure you go to a compunding pharmacy that will split the vaccine into 3 seperate shots and then administer the shots one at time with a few months in between them. But if I were in your shoes I dont think I would get it at all or may in a few years when my child is completely off the spectrum. Take care. > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I agree, it's just to much risk! I swear to you, he's a totally a different boy these days. Night and day! Not worth it at all. I wish I could give him just the mumps alone, in the future because I hear it can make boys get lots of pain and swollen groin area and become sterile. I haven't stopped crying and getting emotional over this decision, thank god I emailed this forum. His appointment with his Pediatrician is next Thurs. but I'm not going to allow him to be vaccinated. We'll just have to do some tests in the future to see if his immune system can handle such a powerful vaccine. I can't chance it now! Thank you so much for your response....it takes a village. ~Irma~ To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:04 AMSubject: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD Most of the autism stories I have read say the worst vaccine is the MMR. My new pediatrician believes in delaying vaccines and told me that if you must get the MMR, make sure you go to a compunding pharmacy that will split the vaccine into 3 seperate shots and then administer the shots one at time with a few months in between them.But if I were in your shoes I dont think I would get it at all or may in a few years when my child is completely off the spectrum.Take care.>> > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I would love to see the study that he references on teh information that he is speaking on..... > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 DONT DO IT.ALTHOUGH ITS YOUR CHILD.SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUT IS TELLING YOU NOT TOO.MAYBE TRY HOMEOPATHIC VACCINE.IF I FOLLOWED MY GUT AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO HER(OLD) DOC SHE WOULDN'T OF GOT AUTISM. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD I would love to see the study that he references on teh information that he is speaking on..... > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My daughter got her MMR, hep B and Gardasil at 16. She was straight A and very artistically tallented. She had normal shots has a infant and first boosters. She started symtoms shortly after the shots. We would classify her as autistic/schizophenic but we are working through the DAN now and seeing some improvements after 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Do not vaccinate under any conditions. Autism is caused from vaccines. Thanks, DONT DO IT.ALTHOUGH ITS YOUR CHILD.SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUT IS TELLING YOU NOT TOO.MAYBE TRY HOMEOPATHIC VACCINE.IF I FOLLOWED MY GUT AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO HER(OLD) DOC SHE WOULDN'T OF GOT AUTISM. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD I would love to see the study that he references on teh information that he is speaking on..... > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 My wife and I experienced the same thing, we were first time parents of our beautiful bubbling baby boy and listened to our family practician and got the MMR SHOTS for our son at 14 months, he was lethargic for about 3 days and then gradually his speech diminished, he's now 9yrs old and classified autistic...I'm sick over it and infuriated. We just took him to a DAN doc(Kellman,), got blood test and started supplements.Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile Gorham wrote: DONT DO IT.ALTHOUGH ITS YOUR CHILD.SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUT IS TELLING YOU NOT TOO.MAYBE TRY HOMEOPATHIC VACCINE.IF I FOLLOWED MY GUT AND DIDN'T LISTEN TO HER(OLD) DOC SHE WOULDN'T OF GOT AUTISM. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD I would love to see the study that he references on teh information that he is speaking on..... > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 ....just another mother of an ASD child here, but I've never heard before that the blood brain barrier " seals " after 5 yrs. That's not physically possible. The brain doesn't have its own circulation, it feeds off the blood in our entire bodies. What's definitely true is that after 5 yrs the brain starts pruning those branches and neurons not used - so those maybe blocked by heavy metals, metals retained from vaccination preservatives and the environment which would ordinarily be filtered out as waste in a body with no gut damage. (But you can possibly " reawaken " idle/sleeping neurons not killed off, at any time, with HBOT, which is some good news to mention here.) But after 5 yrs and for the rest of our lives our brains can still be affected by what we eat/smoke etc. I can't see how a virus would get " trapped " there after 5yrs. Vaccines aren't 100% effective either. Your son could still catch measles if he has the MMR - maybe even have a bout of it BECAUSE of the vaccination. What an unnecessary risk to take. Your neurologist is trying to frighten you I think, and keep up his vaccination tally. Over here (UK), State-funded doctors get extra funding for pedalling vaccinations (and pharma freebies too). I'm living, like many, in grief at having allowed my beautiful daughter to be brain damaged " for the good of the herd " . She didn't have the MMR. She regressed after the 2 month baby vaccination we used to have here, when it still contained mercury as a preservative. At the time, 10 yrs ago, we used to have 2, 3 and 4 month jabs, then the MMR at 18mths and pre-school booster at 4yrs. I believe in preventative medicine so when my daughter was two years old I found a sympathetic doctor and spread the 3 MMR shots out over a year. My daughter was fine with mumps and rubella, but when she had the measles jab - without mercury - she had a reaction exactly when the medicine leaflet predicted she would (I think it was 10-12 days after the jab). She had a skyhigh temperature but cold skin, the measles rash, was virtually comatose, pale blue putty colour: the exact same symptoms of the first baby vaccination. The hospital pumped her full of antibiotics over 3 days while she was comatose and said she'd had an ordinary virus or a cold when she'd had the jab - the same blame they attached to me when she reacted to her 2 month jab. They wouldn't accept that the measles jab had anything to do with it. But when the consultant and his team of flunkies left the room the ward Sister (head nurse status) came back in and quietly said she agreed with me, that they'd seen it before. I was poleaxed. I'd done it again. Damaged my darling child, my heart. There isn't a day goes by when I don't think of, if not cry about, vaccinating my baby, my only baby. She's now 10, still in nappies and has a string of diagnoses: ASD, moderate learning difficulties, ADHD, severe speech and language disorder, sensory processing disorder, dyspraxia, dyslexia, and, the latest, a selective mute due to extreme anxiety. She needs lifetime care, and I can't live her lifetime. You've come so far with your son BY YOUR OWN EFFORTS. Don't mistrust your instincts now. If nothing else, where's the harm in waiting a few months while your son develops more? No clinician should put pressure on you the way this man is doing, quoting magical numbers almost like " use by " dates (numbers probably gleaned from generalised research: we all develop at different rates). Sorry, but I think he's just another ignorant medic. I think it used to be in this country at least that in 7 years of training the doctors over here used to get one afternoon on autism, or something like that anyway. Also, even today, doctors here are taught that autism is predominantly a genetic blip, even though there are reputable worldwide studies showing that genetics play a part in only about 5% of cases. They're simply told that vaccines and other environmental insults are not factors. All the government-funded research into autism is not allowed to investigate any connection between ASD and vaccines. State-trained doctors (so basically our entire medical Establishment) who elect to work as State doctors under our National Health Service are not allowed to look for measles in the gut when performing endoscopies. Even if they see it they can't say so. Absolutely disgusting. Criminal. I have zero respect for these people these days. Don't vaccinate your child - not yet at least. Just be extra careful where he goes and who he plays with to minimise the chance of him catching the measles virus in particular. Do regular blood tests to check the levels of his immune system. Show them to any smartarse medic who mouths off about protecting your child. If your son's immune system and his gut is not 110% then basically the MMR is a lethal injection. Sorry I can't sit on the fence on this. Just trust your own instincts. Who knows more about what your son has been through and is facing in the future: you, or your neurologist? Who's done more for your son so far? Let me guess. You. Just stick with it. x > My wife and I experienced the same thing, we were first time parents > of our beautiful bubbling baby boy and listened to our family > practician and got the MMR SHOTS for our son at 14 months, he was > lethargic for about 3 days and then gradually his speech diminished, > he's now 9yrs old and classified autistic...I'm sick over it and > infuriated. We just took him to a DAN doc(Kellman,), got blood test > and started supplements. > > Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile > > Gorham wrote: > > DONT DO IT.ALTHOUGH ITS YOUR CHILD.SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUT IS TELLING > YOU > NOT TOO.MAYBE TRY HOMEOPATHIC VACCINE.IF I FOLLOWED MY GUT AND DIDN'T > LISTEN TO HER(OLD) DOC SHE WOULDN'T OF GOT AUTISM. > > ------------------------- > FROM: slacker_15129 > TO: mb12valtrex > SENT: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:36 PM > SUBJECT: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my > 5yr old with ASD > > I would love to see the study that he references on teh information > that he is speaking on..... > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he > had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR > vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or > before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if > he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain > barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's > also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week > and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of > this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade > vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & > Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA > school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home > and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well > worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking > more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR > vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to > do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he > had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR > vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or > before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if > he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain > barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's > also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week > and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of > this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade > vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & > Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA > school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home > and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well > worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking > more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR > vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to > do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 WOW,BEST POST I EVER READ To: mb12valtrex Cc: lindsayn@... Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my 5yr old with ASD ....just another mother of an ASD child here, but I've never heard before that the blood brain barrier "seals" after 5 yrs. That's not physically possible. The brain doesn't have its own circulation, it feeds off the blood in our entire bodies. What's definitely true is that after 5 yrs the brain starts pruning those branches and neurons not used - so those maybe blocked by heavy metals, metals retained from vaccination preservatives and the environment which would ordinarily be filtered out as waste in a body with no gut damage. (But you can possibly "reawaken" idle/sleeping neurons not killed off, at any time, with HBOT, which is some good news to mention here.) But after 5 yrs and for the rest of our lives our brains can still be affected by what we eat/smoke etc. I can't see how a virus would get "trapped" there after 5yrs. Vaccines aren't 100% effective either. Your son could still catch measles if he has the MMR - maybe even have a bout of it BECAUSE of the vaccination. What an unnecessary risk to take. Your neurologist is trying to frighten you I think, and keep up his vaccination tally. Over here (UK), State-funded doctors get extra funding for pedalling vaccinations (and pharma freebies too). I'm living, like many, in grief at having allowed my beautiful daughter to be brain damaged "for the good of the herd". She didn't have the MMR. She regressed after the 2 month baby vaccination we used to have here, when it still contained mercury as a preservative. At the time, 10 yrs ago, we used to have 2, 3 and 4 month jabs, then the MMR at 18mths and pre-school booster at 4yrs. I believe in preventative medicine so when my daughter was two years old I found a sympathetic doctor and spread the 3 MMR shots out over a year. My daughter was fine with mumps and rubella, but when she had the measles jab - without mercury - she had a reaction exactly when the medicine leaflet predicted she would (I think it was 10-12 days after the jab). She had a skyhigh temperature but cold skin, the measles rash, was virtually comatose, pale blue putty colour: the exact same symptoms of the first baby vaccination. The hospital pumped her full of antibiotics over 3 days while she was comatose and said she'd had an ordinary virus or a cold when she'd had the jab - the same blame they attached to me when she reacted to her 2 month jab. They wouldn't accept that the measles jab had anything to do with it. But when the consultant and his team of flunkies left the room the ward Sister (head nurse status) came back in and quietly said she agreed with me, that they'd seen it before. I was poleaxed. I'd done it again. Damaged my darling child, my heart. There isn't a day goes by when I don't think of, if not cry about, vaccinating my baby, my only baby. She's now 10, still in nappies and has a string of diagnoses: ASD, moderate learning difficulties, ADHD, severe speech and language disorder, sensory processing disorder, dyspraxia, dyslexia, and, the latest, a selective mute due to extreme anxiety. She needs lifetime care, and I can't live her lifetime. You've come so far with your son BY YOUR OWN EFFORTS. Don't mistrust your instincts now. If nothing else, where's the harm in waiting a few months while your son develops more? No clinician should put pressure on you the way this man is doing, quoting magical numbers almost like "use by" dates (numbers probably gleaned from generalised research: we all develop at different rates). Sorry, but I think he's just another ignorant medic. I think it used to be in this country at least that in 7 years of training the doctors over here used to get one afternoon on autism, or something like that anyway. Also, even today, doctors here are taught that autism is predominantly a genetic blip, even though there are reputable worldwide studies showing that genetics play a part in only about 5% of cases. They're simply told that vaccines and other environmental insults are not factors. All the government-funded research into autism is not allowed to investigate any connection between ASD and vaccines. State-trained doctors (so basically our entire medical Establishment) who elect to work as State doctors under our National Health Service are not allowed to look for measles in the gut when performing endoscopies. Even if they see it they can't say so. Absolutely disgusting. Criminal. I have zero respect for these people these days. Don't vaccinate your child - not yet at least. Just be extra careful where he goes and who he plays with to minimise the chance of him catching the measles virus in particular. Do regular blood tests to check the levels of his immune system. Show them to any smartarse medic who mouths off about protecting your child. If your son's immune system and his gut is not 110% then basically the MMR is a lethal injection. Sorry I can't sit on the fence on this. Just trust your own instincts. Who knows more about what your son has been through and is facing in the future: you, or your neurologist? Who's done more for your son so far? Let me guess. You. Just stick with it. x > My wife and I experienced the same thing, we were first time parents > of our beautiful bubbling baby boy and listened to our family > practician and got the MMR SHOTS for our son at 14 months, he was > lethargic for about 3 days and then gradually his speech diminished, > he's now 9yrs old and classified autistic...I'm sick over it and > infuriated. We just took him to a DAN doc(Kellman,), got blood test > and started supplements. > > Sent via my Samsung Transform™ Ultra from Boost Mobile > > Gorham wrote: > > DONT DO IT.ALTHOUGH ITS YOUR CHILD.SOUNDS LIKE YOUR GUT IS TELLING > YOU > NOT TOO.MAYBE TRY HOMEOPATHIC VACCINE.IF I FOLLOWED MY GUT AND DIDN'T > LISTEN TO HER(OLD) DOC SHE WOULDN'T OF GOT AUTISM. > > ------------------------- > FROM: slacker_15129 > TO: mb12valtrex > SENT: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:36 PM > SUBJECT: Re: Neurologist wants MMR to be given to my > 5yr old with ASD > > I would love to see the study that he references on teh information > that he is speaking on..... > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he > had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR > vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or > before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if > he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain > barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's > also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week > and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of > this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade > vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & > Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA > school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home > and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well > worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking > more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR > vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to > do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he > had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR > vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or > before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if > he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain > barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's > also missing 1 of his chicken pox.  My son turned 5 last week > and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of > this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade > vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & > Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA > school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home > and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well > worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking > more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR > vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to > do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 these good dear doctors have the blood of countless children on thier hands and are to stupid or evil to care... would love to come across one of these vaccine pushing pimps alone on some country road....wow...lord have mercy > > WOW,BEST POST I EVER READ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Just wondered if any parent as asked, their Neurologist or Ped's DR peddling the vaccines. Dear DR. ~ if I give my child the vaccine, and he goes down hill and becomes disabled, autistic, etc. Can you reverse the damage , return my child to normal ?? I need a promise and a written contract first that you will care for my child for life, if anything happens post vaccine. And then laugh in their face when the DR turns blue!! And say, I thought so, and that answers that question. Never ask me again to vaccinate my child. > > > > WOW,BEST POST I EVER READ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Amen to thatSent from my iPhone Just wondered if any parent as asked, their Neurologist or Ped's DR peddling the vaccines. Dear DR. ~ if I give my child the vaccine, and he goes down hill and becomes disabled, autistic, etc. Can you reverse the damage , return my child to normal ?? I need a promise and a written contract first that you will care for my child for life, if anything happens post vaccine. And then laugh in their face when the DR turns blue!! And say, I thought so, and that answers that question. Never ask me again to vaccinate my child. > > > > WOW,BEST POST I EVER READ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I do NOT have children.... However, I'm 35 years old with Fibromyalgia, Auto-immune disorder (NOS), asthma, allergies, chronic fatigue syndrome, gluten AND dairy/casein FREE, sick since age 10! In the winter of 2011, my Primary MD " suggested " I get a " booster " vaccine for Whooping Cough/Pertussis... I told her " NO, thanks anyway " !! Then she INSISTED, " , hon, you think with YOUR life - time of asthma that " the FLU " could KILL you... Well, whooping cough is TEN times worse for someone like you with asthma... I'll send in the nurse with ur B12, Depo-Provera AND the whooping cough booster " . I WISH I had said NO to the nurse.... What happened to me? One day about 3 to 4 days AFTER the " Booster " my home health aide said " , what's WRONG... you are being REALLY quiet... Are u tired? Are u sick? Did u start a NEW medicine? " Apparently, I wasn't even making eye contact, just stareing at the ceiling with a " Dazed yet happy " look on my face. Does THIS sound like " Autism " to anyone else? Keep in mind I was 33 YEARS old, when this happened.... Imagine what this JUNK will do to YOUNG children?!? With Heart Blessings, Gellman (in Upstate NY, Mom to pet Geckos... Lady (age 6 years) and Tiana (age 1 year) P.S. I DID get a flu shot on Sept. 29, 2012. I got the THIMERISOL FREE version from my Allergist. I even MADE sure it was Thimerisol FREE BEFORE the nurse gave it to me.... ALWAYS check and Double check when u or ur child is " SENSITIVE " and/or " Allergic " like I am! > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's not just the Hg, it's the enviruses and adjuvants. The pneumonia shot has more than 200 viruses packed into it and is a nightmare for a compromised immune system. I very much hope you are ok now after the "safe" flu shot.Sent from my iPhone I do NOT have children.... However, I'm 35 years old with Fibromyalgia, Auto-immune disorder (NOS), asthma, allergies, chronic fatigue syndrome, gluten AND dairy/casein FREE, sick since age 10! In the winter of 2011, my Primary MD "suggested" I get a "booster" vaccine for Whooping Cough/Pertussis... I told her "NO, thanks anyway"!! Then she INSISTED, ", hon, you think with YOUR life - time of asthma that "the FLU" could KILL you... Well, whooping cough is TEN times worse for someone like you with asthma... I'll send in the nurse with ur B12, Depo-Provera AND the whooping cough booster". I WISH I had said NO to the nurse.... What happened to me? One day about 3 to 4 days AFTER the "Booster" my home health aide said ", what's WRONG... you are being REALLY quiet... Are u tired? Are u sick? Did u start a NEW medicine?" Apparently, I wasn't even making eye contact, just stareing at the ceiling with a "Dazed yet happy" look on my face. Does THIS sound like "Autism" to anyone else? Keep in mind I was 33 YEARS old, when this happened.... Imagine what this JUNK will do to YOUNG children?!? With Heart Blessings, Gellman (in Upstate NY, Mom to pet Geckos... Lady (age 6 years) and Tiana (age 1 year) P.S. I DID get a flu shot on Sept. 29, 2012. I got the THIMERISOL FREE version from my Allergist. I even MADE sure it was Thimerisol FREE BEFORE the nurse gave it to me.... ALWAYS check and Double check when u or ur child is "SENSITIVE" and/or "Allergic" like I am! > > > Last I spoke to my son's Neurologist here in Charlotte, NC, he had explained to me that children with ASD should get their MMR vaccine alone before their brain blood barrier seals approximately or before he turns 5 years old. He said his Autism can get worse if he gets the measals and it gets incapsulated above his blood brain barrier, which can make him severly regress. > > > > > > He got all of his vaccines as a baby but the MMR and he's also missing 1 of his chicken pox. My son turned 5 last week and he's made such great progress thanks to the help and guidance of this forum, early biomedical intervention, HBOT, pharmaceutical grade vitamins, Valtrex & Diffluclan that I gave him 2 years ago, Gluten & Cassein free diet, Neurofeedback and attending a full-time ABA school. We're definetly in a whole and are trying to sell our home and move into a 1 bedroom apartment but all our efforts were well worth it! He's verbal again, doesn't stim anymore and is looking more and more typical. > > > > > > My biggest fear is that he'll regress if he get's this MMR vaccine now at 5yrs old??? I'm so confused, and don't know what to do. Any advise on what I should or who I can call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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