Elevated Measles and Mumps IGG titers?

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My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He

has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have

not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM

is within range.

His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would

substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of

any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is

absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus

a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a

history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations

would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

To bring down the measles titers you can use high dose vitamin A......google Dr McCandless's high dose vitamin A protocol for dosing. I would also try a 90 day tiral of valtrex. You can google Stan Kurtz's paper on valtrex for autism to learn a lot more. From:

theshannster2 To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Elevated Measles and Mumps IGG titers?

My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM is within range.

His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

High Vitamin A protocol per Dr MCandless ( "the children with starving brains") for measles - mumps ( valtrex won't help those igG titres)Sent from my iPhone

My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM is within range.

His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

are these titers (IGG) typically high than in most vaccinated children ? And not

something unordinary ?

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> My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months.

He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which

have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The

IGM is within range.

> His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would

substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of

any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is

absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus

a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a

history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations

would be greatly appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

The IgG just means child has a strong set of antibodies to the pathogen which is why most Docs see it as a good thing. What you can't know with the titres is whether there is any active infection lurking somewhere other than the blood... Like in the brain or cerebrospinal fluid. Vatrex is for DNA viruses like HSV1 & 2, HHV6, Varicella...Vitamin A works against measles infection (RNA virus) mumps, rubella are RNA viruses as well and I beleive there are other antivirals more specific to these viruses. Does this answer your question?Sent from my iPhone

are these titers (IGG) typically high than in most vaccinated children ? And not something unordinary ?

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> My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM is within range.

> His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations would be greatly appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

Yep. I would think that consistently elevated high titers (or re-elevated) would necessitate treatment. Vit a is supposed to be good to bring down measles titers. Valtrex helps herpes related viruses so may be helpful if those titers are elevated but probably not if they are all normal. Which infections has your doctor checked for? Has he checked overall immune function? Given what you've said, he may benefit from immune modulating therapy. Focusing on reducing pathogen load and supporting/modulating the immune system is usually a helpful strategy. Do you have a PAnDAS doc or LLMD?RuthSent from my iPhone

My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM is within range.

His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Yes, but I am concerned that we are missing the viral piece and labs are not

showing positives. I can say 4 years ago his titers were much lower, and now

they are high- and that makes no sense to me because he had these vaccines

almost 9 years ago. He has immune issues as well, low IgG and low IgA, he has

been tested for so many infections and virus and he only has the pos ANA, pos

Sjogrens ( which was not impressive to any of his doctors, high inflammatory

markers and some lyme pos+ with coinfections. We have been at that for years now

though. I thought maybe these high IGG measles/Mumps titers were telling me

something, it seems not though. Just strange they were much lower years ago and

he has not been vaccinated since.

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> > My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months.

He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which

have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The

IGM is within range.

> > His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would

substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of

any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is

absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus

a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a

history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations

would be greatly appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

It is possible for an infection to stay latent in the body and then become reactivated. How much higher are they?Sent from my iPhone

Yes, but I am concerned that we are missing the viral piece and labs are not showing positives. I can say 4 years ago his titers were much lower, and now they are high- and that makes no sense to me because he had these vaccines almost 9 years ago. He has immune issues as well, low IgG and low IgA, he has been tested for so many infections and virus and he only has the pos ANA, pos Sjogrens ( which was not impressive to any of his doctors, high inflammatory markers and some lyme pos+ with coinfections. We have been at that for years now though. I thought maybe these high IGG measles/Mumps titers were telling me something, it seems not though. Just strange they were much lower years ago and he has not been vaccinated since.

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> > My son is 9 and regressed after the MMR plus varicella vaccine at 13 months. He has been very sick since this past August, and has had many labs done which have not revealed much. His IGG Measles and Mumps titers are 5x the normal. The IGM is within range.

> > His doctor was not impressed. Does anyone know if these titers would substantiate the use of Valtrex to decrease autistic symptoms in the absence of any positive HHV or EBV titers (they are negative) ? Also, his Varicella is absent now meaning no longer immune. He has a pos ANA and a pos Sjogrens B plus a very high Complement C4. This is all that came back out of range. He has a history of PANDAS (PANS) and Lyme plus coinfections as well. Any reccomendations would be greatly appreciated.

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