OT : Furious : your thoughts

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OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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Well, that is not fair on her part. Maybe he is "behavioral" bc he is more tired than usual. Maybe you should speak with her. I also prioritize sleep with my child. If she wants to see "behavioral" try bringing him in exhausted!Hugs to you, Mama. Jean

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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I wondered if you have IEPs and Reviews where these issues are discussed and addressed. Your childs needs should be put first if he is tired he will not learn anything and he will not be productive. I am sure you can come to an arrangement where this can be sorted out. I don't know what the sleeping arrangements are but Iam sure you would have tried everything to make sure he can wake up intime for school.When the teacher says its not fair what does she mean not fair to her ?the class? the staff? or him? or is it a combination of all the above.She might genuinely feel he is missing out on his learning .What is your relationship like with the teacher .In a nutshell This should be easy to sort out if you all sit down and work something out Bola To: From: lesliemom99@...Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:19:53 +0800Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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I see your point and her point. She is concerned about class distractions and you are concerned about your son. I try to treat my children the same and not give any slack. Most issues of autism arise of sensory problems and lack of self control. If I do what my daughter wants instead of routine, I give her a message she can do what she likes. Instead I try to teach her to control herself. I had sensory issues as a child myself, many people do, but I didn't scream when my sucks didn't fit right:) Yesterday my daughter fell asleep at 1am. This morning we woke her up and took to day care exactly on schedule and she was screaming and protesting. Tonight she will go to sleep at 10pm because she will be tired. If we don't teach her self control while young it will get worse as she grows older.

To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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I think she meant not fair to him. Asked her to let me know what I can do to help. this happens occassionally. Like once in 3 weeks .I will talk to her and see From: shayo shayoo

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013 9:32 AM Subject: RE: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I wondered if you have IEPs and Reviews where these issues are discussed and addressed. Your childs needs should be put first if he is tired he will not learn anything and he will not be productive. I am sure you can come to an arrangement where this can be sorted out. I don't know what the sleeping arrangements are but Iam sure you would have tried everything to make sure he can wake up intime for school.When the teacher says its not fair what does she mean not fair to her ?the class? the staff? or him? or is it a combination of all the above.She might genuinely feel he is missing out on his learning .What is your relationship like with the teacher .In a nutshell This should be easy to sort out if you all sit down and work something out Bola To: From: lesliemom99@...Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:19:53 +0800Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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But there can be a lot of reasons why an autistic child doesn't sleep well, not just behavioral reasons or sensory issues. My son is very sensitive to what's going on in his body, as all kids are, and he's had sleep issues b/c of yeast, reactions to new supps and meds, pain, parasites, PANDAS, and I'm sure other things that I can't remember right now, in addition to behavioral and sensory issues. We've been late to school A LOT over the years. I try very hard to put out each fire as it comes along, but sometimes it takes me awhile to figure it out, and we go through a rash of sleepless nights and late days. One of my son's teachers this year told me that my son misses out on the morning routine b/c he's late so often (about 10 days this year so far). I couldn't at the time, but I knew that I would have to explain to her what's going on with the sleep issues. I guess she just thinks I'm disorganized and can't get him there on time. Like another poster said, I prioritize my son's sleep, I know that he needs it for his good health, even more than he needs the morning routine, IMO. And it's not his fault that he has sleep issues. To the OP, I think you need to have a good conversation with the teacher. The way she worded her email sounds insensitive. I know having a child with behaviors is disruptive in the classroom and makes her job harder, but she clearly doesn't understand your situation, which is even more difficult. Sleep issues are hell for the whole family. And that part about "it's not fair" sounds like whining. I can't believe she said that. How unprofessional. You two need to talk, and hopefully she'll be more understanding and you two can figure something out. Good luck.

I see your point and her point. She is concerned about class distractions and you are concerned about your son. I try to treat my children the same and not give any slack. Most issues of autism arise of sensory problems and lack of self control. If I do what my daughter wants instead of routine, I give her a message she can do what she likes. Instead I try to teach her to control herself. I had sensory issues as a child myself, many people do, but I didn't scream when my sucks didn't fit right:) Yesterday my daughter fell asleep at 1am. This morning we woke her up and took to day care exactly on schedule and she was screaming and protesting. Tonight she will go to sleep at 10pm because she will be tired. If we don't teach her self control while young it will get worse as she grows older.

To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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But there can be a lot of reasons why an autistic child doesn't sleep well, not just behavioral reasons or sensory issues. My son is very sensitive to what's going on in his body, as all kids are, and he's had sleep issues b/c of yeast, reactions to new supps and meds, pain, parasites, PANDAS, and I'm sure other things that I can't remember right now, in addition to behavioral and sensory issues. We've been late to school A LOT over the years. I try very hard to put out each fire as it comes along, but sometimes it takes me awhile to figure it out, and we go through a rash of sleepless nights and late days. One of my son's teachers this year told me that my son misses out on the morning routine b/c he's late so often (about 10 days this year so far). I couldn't at the time, but I knew that I would have to explain to her what's going on with the sleep issues. I guess she just thinks I'm disorganized and can't get

him there on time. Like another poster said, I prioritize my son's sleep, I know that he needs it for his good health, even more than he needs the morning routine, IMO. And it's not his fault that he has sleep issues. To the OP, I think you need to have a good conversation with the teacher. The way she worded her email sounds insensitive. I know having a child with behaviors is disruptive in the classroom and makes her job harder, but she clearly doesn't understand your situation, which is even more difficult. Sleep issues are hell for the whole family. And that part about "it's not fair" sounds like whining. I can't believe she said that. How unprofessional. You two need to talk, and hopefully she'll be more understanding and you two can figure something out. Good luck.

I see your point and her point. She is concerned about class distractions and you are concerned about your son. I try to treat my children the same and not give any slack. Most issues of autism arise of sensory problems and lack of self control. If I do what my daughter wants instead of routine, I give her a message she can do what she likes. Instead I try to teach her to control herself. I had sensory issues as a child myself, many people do, but I didn't scream when my sucks didn't fit right:) Yesterday my daughter fell asleep at 1am. This morning we woke her up and took to day care exactly on schedule and she was screaming and protesting. Tonight she will go to sleep at 10pm because she will be tired. If we don't teach her self control while young it will get worse as she grows older.

To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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But there can be a lot of reasons why an autistic child doesn't sleep well, not just behavioral reasons or sensory issues. My son is very sensitive to what's going on in his body, as all kids are, and he's had sleep issues b/c of yeast, reactions to new supps and meds, pain, parasites, PANDAS, and I'm sure other things that I can't remember right now, in addition to behavioral and sensory issues. We've been late to school A LOT over the years. I try very hard to put out each fire as it comes along, but sometimes it takes me awhile to figure it out, and we go through a rash of sleepless nights and late days. One of my son's teachers this year told me that my son misses out on the morning routine b/c he's late so often (about 10 days this year so far). I couldn't at the time, but I knew that I would have to explain to her what's going on with the sleep issues. I guess she just thinks I'm disorganized and can't get him there on time. Like another poster said, I prioritize my son's sleep, I know that he needs it for his good health, even more than he needs the morning routine, IMO. And it's not his fault that he has sleep issues. To the OP, I think you need to have a good conversation with the teacher. The way she worded her email sounds insensitive. I know having a child with behaviors is disruptive in the classroom and makes her job harder, but she clearly doesn't understand your situation, which is even more difficult. Sleep issues are hell for the whole family. And that part about "it's not fair" sounds like whining. I can't believe she said that. How unprofessional. You two need to talk, and hopefully she'll be more understanding and you two can figure something out. Good luck.

I see your point and her point. She is concerned about class distractions and you are concerned about your son. I try to treat my children the same and not give any slack. Most issues of autism arise of sensory problems and lack of self control. If I do what my daughter wants instead of routine, I give her a message she can do what she likes. Instead I try to teach her to control herself. I had sensory issues as a child myself, many people do, but I didn't scream when my sucks didn't fit right:) Yesterday my daughter fell asleep at 1am. This morning we woke her up and took to day care exactly on schedule and she was screaming and protesting. Tonight she will go to sleep at 10pm because she will be tired. If we don't teach her self control while young it will get worse as she grows older.

To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:19 AM Subject: OT : Furious : your thoughts

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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Totally agree! I do the same.Enviado via iPadEm 22/01/2013, às 15:13, Channa Brennon escreveu:

oh my goodness....this is such I think a great important issue for all of us mama warrior bears.....I will try and share what i have learned with my son. Because of my sons severe emotional as well as physical issues he had been dealing with for majority of his life I had gotten into a routine of catering to him.I thought he needed allowances becuase of his autism ect... I had a friend point out to me what was I gonna do when he was twenty...and the world wasnt goin to cater to him the way I did

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ASD is such a huge spectrum and depending on where uo child is on this spectrum u can talk on discipline ect. If uo child is severe and functioning at 18mths old mental state really there is no point discussing some of these thingsSent from my iPhone

Totally agree! I do the same.Enviado via iPadEm 22/01/2013, às 15:13, Channa Brennon escreveu:

oh my goodness....this is such I think a great important issue for all of us mama warrior bears.....I will try and share what i have learned with my son. Because of my sons severe emotional as well as physical issues he had been dealing with for majority of his life I had gotten into a routine of catering to him.I thought he needed allowances becuase of his autism ect... I had a friend point out to me what was I gonna do when he was twenty...and the world wasnt goin to cater to him the way I did

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I also wondered about the grammatical errors when I read it. Sent from my iPad

I'd be more upset that an educator would produce a run on sentence like that!! It's riddled with grammatical errors! Hope you can smile today. These educators and paraprofessionals have no idea what it's like to raise a child on the spectrum. If it were me, I'd let her know how challenging sleep disturbances are for everyone in the family. Wouldn't it be nice if a 7 pm bedtime were possible? Imagine if they all slept peacefully through the night? Stand up to that grouchy ogre! She should work with you and your child around HIS peak learning times. If he sleeps late because he's been up from 3a-5a, she should be working WITH you. Good luck! You are so not alone on this one!

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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Yes it is true but we do not want to rock the boat .I always say tread easy in this situation we do not know the whole story what we know is there is an upset mum ..we need to calm the situation..I completly agree but we need to soothe. LOL I can imagine us mums going to war on this...what a laugh no body messes with us mum!!!s but this time we are going to calm the poor mum, remember her child is in the teachers care for a lot of the day. They have to work together. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: smujgy@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:19:40 +0100Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I also wondered about the grammatical errors when I read it. Sent from my iPad

I'd be more upset that an educator would produce a run on sentence like that!! It's riddled with grammatical errors! Hope you can smile today. These educators and paraprofessionals have no idea what it's like to raise a child on the spectrum. If it were me, I'd let her know how challenging sleep disturbances are for everyone in the family. Wouldn't it be nice if a 7 pm bedtime were possible? Imagine if they all slept peacefully through the night? Stand up to that grouchy ogre! She should work with you and your child around HIS peak learning times. If he sleeps late because he's been up from 3a-5a, she should be working WITH you. Good luck! You are so not alone on this one!

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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I agree with the teachers working with you, because of his sleep issues.If she seems put off with him, i would look into other options (changing classrooms, schools etc...) the right teacher makes a world of differanceSharonSent from my iPad

Yes it is true but we do not want to rock the boat .I always say tread easy in this situation we do not know the whole story what we know is there is an upset mum ..we need to calm the situation..I completly agree but we need to soothe. LOL I can imagine us mums going to war on this...what a laugh no body messes with us mum!!!s but this time we are going to calm the poor mum, remember her child is in the teachers care for a lot of the day. They have to work together. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: smujgy@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:19:40 +0100Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I also wondered about the grammatical errors when I read it. Sent from my iPad

I'd be more upset that an educator would produce a run on sentence like that!! It's riddled with grammatical errors! Hope you can smile today. These educators and paraprofessionals have no idea what it's like to raise a child on the spectrum. If it were me, I'd let her know how challenging sleep disturbances are for everyone in the family. Wouldn't it be nice if a 7 pm bedtime were possible? Imagine if they all slept peacefully through the night? Stand up to that grouchy ogre! She should work with you and your child around HIS peak learning times. If he sleeps late because he's been up from 3a-5a, she should be working WITH you. Good luck! You are so not alone on this one!

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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Sharon,We dont know the situation,We are not going to rock the boat softly softly ....We want this poor mum to think clearly on this its a pretty serious matter .. how is it going any results how are you?virtual hugs coming your way. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: ssmith0306@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:41:40 -0500Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I agree with the teachers working with you, because of his sleep issues.If she seems put off with him, i would look into other options (changing classrooms, schools etc...) the right teacher makes a world of differanceSharonSent from my iPad

Yes it is true but we do not want to rock the boat .I always say tread easy in this situation we do not know the whole story what we know is there is an upset mum ..we need to calm the situation..I completly agree but we need to soothe. LOL I can imagine us mums going to war on this...what a laugh no body messes with us mum!!!s but this time we are going to calm the poor mum, remember her child is in the teachers care for a lot of the day. They have to work together. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: smujgy@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:19:40 +0100Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I also wondered about the grammatical errors when I read it. Sent from my iPad

I'd be more upset that an educator would produce a run on sentence like that!! It's riddled with grammatical errors! Hope you can smile today. These educators and paraprofessionals have no idea what it's like to raise a child on the spectrum. If it were me, I'd let her know how challenging sleep disturbances are for everyone in the family. Wouldn't it be nice if a 7 pm bedtime were possible? Imagine if they all slept peacefully through the night? Stand up to that grouchy ogre! She should work with you and your child around HIS peak learning times. If he sleeps late because he's been up from 3a-5a, she should be working WITH you. Good luck! You are so not alone on this one!

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.

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What time is he supposed to be at school,and what is his age ? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: RE: OT : Furious : your thoughts

Sharon,We dont know the situation,We are not going to rock the boat softly softly ....We want this poor mum to think clearly on this its a pretty serious matter .. how is it going any results how are you?virtual hugs coming your way. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: ssmith0306@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:41:40 -0500Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I agree with the teachers working with you, because of his sleep issues.If she seems put off with him, i would look into other options (changing classrooms, schools etc...) the right teacher makes a world of differanceSharonSent from my iPad

Yes it is true but we do not want to rock the boat .I always say tread easy in this situation we do not know the whole story what we know is there is an upset mum ..we need to calm the situation..I completly agree but we need to soothe. LOL I can imagine us mums going to war on this...what a laugh no body messes with us mum!!!s but this time we are going to calm the poor mum, remember her child is in the teachers care for a lot of the day. They have to work together. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: smujgy@...Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:19:40

+0100Subject: Re: OT : Furious : your thoughts

I also wondered about the grammatical errors when I read it. Sent from my iPad

I'd be more upset that an educator would produce a run on sentence like that!! It's riddled with grammatical errors! Hope you can smile today. These educators and paraprofessionals have no idea what it's like to raise a child on the spectrum. If it were me, I'd let her know how challenging sleep disturbances are for everyone in the family. Wouldn't it be nice if a 7 pm bedtime were possible? Imagine if they all slept peacefully through the night? Stand up to that grouchy ogre! She should work with you and your child around HIS peak learning times. If he sleeps late because he's been up from 3a-5a, she should be working WITH you. Good luck! You are so not alone on this one!

OT : I was furious reading this email as my son gets really cranky if he doesn't have enough sleep. Please please let me know if you think I am overreacting. This note is from his teacher I appreciate you letting me know that (my son) did not sleep. However in the past when you have brought him in, he misses his academics becuse we do academics in the morning and also he is out of his school routine and it is very difficult to get him redirected and focused. In the past he has been behavioral when you bring him in at 10-10:30 and its not fair. The teacher has not once told me what her schedule looks like after the 10-10:30 apart from ST, OT , gym, art.