Guest guest Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I was overwhelmed by all the responses to my posts. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I will follow the leads and see what I can find. Forgive me for answering several posts at once, but I am limited on time. I took my son to 2 different local practitioners that use the XYTO. At the time my son was still taking his supplements, but refused to change his diet (he eats a diet that is loaded with carbs, gluten and dairy). I eat a diet that is gluten and dairy free, so I do not buy any of these foods, but unfortunately my husband is not a believer that food has any effect on health. I took my son to these practitioners because he refused to do the Great Plains Autism Spectrum Panel of Tests that our DAN doctor prescribed. The XYTO indicated a problem with heavy metals and with bad bacteria in the gut. The acupuncturist muscle tested all of his supplements and we continued with the ones she said to continue and added some to correct those issues. A few months later, I got my strength together to get the Great Plains labs done. I tried to bribe my son with some of his favorite special foods, but he refused. So, I hid his XBOX and said he wouldn't get it back until the end of the weekend, after the 3 days of tests (2 days of stool tests, urine, hair, blood) were all completed. I succeeded in getting the tests, but unfortunately I made him hate me even more. The results showed that he did have urinary peptides for casein (not for gluten). However a previous stool test from EnteroLab showed him to have both a gluten and soy intolerence. His hair showed high levels of nickel and silver as well as medium levels of arsenic. Lead and Mercury were both low, but I do understand that sometimes autistic kids cannot excrete these 2 heavy metals and that is why they don't show up in the hair samples. My husband didn't believe this, by the way, even though I copied pages of books that backed this up. His stool tests were not catastrophic since he had been taking probiotics (100 billion strength) for over a year. The only dysbiotic flora was the Klebsiella pneumoniae bacteria, that the DAN doctor didn't think was catastrophic, although he did suggest we add grapefruit seed extract to the supplements. No major food allergies. The Organic Acids test did show high Arabinose, the marker for candida. Funny that this didn't show up in the stool test. So, again my husband thought this test was not reliable. There was also a high Quinolinic/5-HIAA Ratio, however the the other neurotransmitter metabolites were within range. I adjusted some of the supplements, with the help of our DAN doctor, however they didn't make much of a difference. The doctor said we really needed to try the GAPS diet. He said that in his experience that is what made the most difference. Unfortunately we had tried going gluten free about 8 months before and it was a disaster. My son got angrier and angrier. Several times he tossed the gluten free products in the trash. And then he managed to sneak forbidden foods at school. My husband finally put an end to the diet after he took our son to a gastroenterologist and tests came back negative for Celiac. So, going on an even stricter diet was not going to happen no matter how much I wanted to implement it. As I said in my original post, now my son refuses to take any supplements. He is in much worse condition. He is a brilliant young man and he used to be so high functioning. Now he cannot pay attention in school, doesn't do most of his homework and won't admit that he has any problem - other than lousy parents! It is such a sad and frustrating story. I appreciate all of your prayers. I pray all the time. I am hoping that something will happen that will make him come around and try the supplements again, and perhaps this time the diet. Hopefully before my husband manages to convince him to take meds. Thank you all again. Arielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Well, there are ways to go around the diet and gluten. Mindlinx and some other probiotics can assist in digesting gluten and casein. I have used many different nerve protectors. I currently use Goji. I have used Turmeric. I also use Feverfew. The important thing for me was that I always use things for inflammation, often several things at once, because the symptoms come from the inflammation. Mindlinx is the only probioitc that I have seen amazing things from. I have used many name brands that should have worked, but barely worked, if at all. Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Thanks, Heidi. When my son was taking his supplements I was giving him gluten digesting enzymes. as well as tumeric, goji and other super food powders in his smoothies, fish oils, broccali sprout capsules, etc. for inflammation. The problem is that now he refuses to even talk to me, and if I leave supplements out for him, he refuses to take them. I will check out Mindlinx, though, since it sounds interesting. Perhaps at some point my son will decide to take his supplements again. He usually gets interested in healthy food and supplements as soon as he gets sick. Since it is cold and flu season, that could happen at any time now. . . Thanks, again, Arielle > > Well, there are ways to go around the diet and gluten. Mindlinx and > some other probiotics can assist in digesting gluten and casein. I have > used many different nerve protectors. I currently use Goji. I have > used Turmeric. I also use Feverfew. The important thing for me was > that I always use things for inflammation, often several things at once, > because the symptoms come from the inflammation. Mindlinx is the only > probioitc that I have seen amazing things from. I have used many name > brands that should have worked, but barely worked, if at all. > > Heidi N > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Sometimes, when my children slept, I dropped homeopathic drops on their lips - usually only one or two is needed. Or, I would rub their magnesium sulphate or B12 cream on their leg while they slept. They had high anxiety back then, and it was difficult to get them to take things. There are also sprays for the skin, such as Bach remedies. There is a video on You-Tube called 's Recovery Interview about a teen recovering after starting treatments at age 14. And I suppose there are lots more that may help motivate your son. Heidi N Thanks, Heidi. When my son was taking his supplements I was giving him gluten digesting enzymes. as well as tumeric, goji and other super food powders in his smoothies, fish oils, broccali sprout capsules, etc. for inflammation. The problem is that now he refuses to even talk to me, and if I leave supplements out for him, he refuses to take them. I will check out Mindlinx, though, since it sounds interesting. Perhaps at some point my son will decide to take his supplements again. He usually gets interested in healthy food and supplements as soon as he gets sick. Since it is cold and flu season, that could happen at any time now. . . Thanks, again, Arielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hi Heidi, Funny that you should mention the You-Tube called 's Recovery, just last week I purchased a book on Amazon about another teen's recovery, Zimmerman. It's a funny book about what he thought when his Mom introduced the special diet and supplements. So far I haven't managed to get my son to read it. .. . We've used Bach flower remedies before and didn't see any noticeable results, although the rescue remedy did seem to work when he was younger and nervous about going to school. I used to call it butterfly spray to calm the butterflies in his stomach when he was afraid. Other than for that purpose it didn't help him much. I am not familiar with vitamin B12 in cream form. When he was taking his supplements I gave him sublingual methyl cobalamin. Is there a particular brand that you can suggest. Thanks again for all your suggestions. Arielle > > Sometimes, when my children slept, I dropped homeopathic drops on their > lips - usually only one or two is needed. Or, I would rub their > magnesium sulphate or B12 cream on their leg while they slept. They had > high anxiety back then, and it was difficult to get them to take > things. There are also sprays for the skin, such as Bach remedies. > There is a video on You-Tube called 's Recovery Interview about a > teen recovering after starting treatments at age 14. And I suppose > there are lots more that may help motivate your son. > > Heidi N > > > Thanks, Heidi. > > When my son was taking his supplements I was giving him gluten digesting > enzymes. as well as tumeric, goji and other super food powders in his > smoothies, fish oils, broccali sprout capsules, etc. for inflammation. > The problem is that now he refuses to even talk to me, and if I leave > supplements out for him, he refuses to take them. > > I will check out Mindlinx, though, since it sounds interesting. Perhaps > at some point my son will decide to take his supplements again. He > usually gets interested in healthy food and supplements as soon as he > gets sick. Since it is cold and flu season, that could happen at any > time now. . . > > Thanks, again, > Arielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 There is an autism recovery doc who I guess is kind of a NIDs doc, but doesn't use the SSRI's. Anyhow, his name is Kendall in Austin, TX, and he creates formulas. Look on his supplement website, www.neurobiologix.com to find it. Join his support forum to learn what to expect from it - die-off and all. Heidi N Hi Heidi, Funny that you should mention the You-Tube called 's Recovery, just last week I purchased a book on Amazon about another teen's recovery, Zimmerman. It's a funny book about what he thought when his Mom introduced the special diet and supplements. So far I haven't managed to get my son to read it. . . We've used Bach flower remedies before and didn't see any noticeable results, although the rescue remedy did seem to work when he was younger and nervous about going to school. I used to call it butterfly spray to calm the butterflies in his stomach when he was afraid. Other than for that purpose it didn't help him much. I am not familiar with vitamin B12 in cream form. When he was taking his supplements I gave him sublingual methyl cobalamin. Is there a particular brand that you can suggest. Thanks again for all your suggestions. Arielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hi Heidi, Very interesting website. I spent a little time on it this afternoon and I will definitely explore it further. Thank you for all of your wonderful information. Arielle > > There is an autism recovery doc who I guess is kind of a NIDs doc, but > doesn't use the SSRI's. Anyhow, his name is Kendall in Austin, > TX, and he creates formulas. Look on his supplement website, > www.neurobiologix.com to find it. Join his support forum to learn what > to expect from it - die-off and all. > > Heidi N > > > Hi Heidi, > > Funny that you should mention the You-Tube called 's Recovery, just > last week I purchased a book on Amazon about another teen's recovery, > Zimmerman. It's a funny book about what he thought when his Mom > introduced the special diet and supplements. So far I haven't managed to > get my son to read it. . . > > We've used Bach flower remedies before and didn't see any noticeable > results, although the rescue remedy did seem to work when he was younger > and nervous about going to school. I used to call it butterfly spray to > calm the butterflies in his stomach when he was afraid. Other than for > that purpose it didn't help him much. > > I am not familiar with vitamin B12 in cream form. When he was taking his > supplements I gave him sublingual methyl cobalamin. Is there a > particular brand that you can suggest. > > Thanks again for all your suggestions. > > Arielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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