Re: [SPAM] Re: OT: ADHD Inattentive Type -- any good online resources/books?

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I agree with Ellen.... those ears need to get working as fast as we can do it!

Every day your child is not hearing means another day that they are getting

further behind their peer group and will have to 'catch up' later on. It's a

supreme drag.... that I can attest to!

It's hard to catch your child up when they are years and years behind. The ears

are a 'big' problem for many of our kids. If I could do it again today, there

is no question that I would do the TLP Bone Conduction since it works a lot

faster than the regular TLP.

FastForward requires about 45 minutes of computer work a day, is extremely

costly and difficult to administer. I tried a computer program that had such

requirements and I couldn't get Mark to comply for one day never mind 6 or 7

months!

What I like about the Listening Programs out there is that they are relatively

easy to use and get the child's cooperation. They are passive rather than

active therapy. We do so much active therapy that it is nice to get the break!

Kim with 4 cuties did Mood Bell, Earobics and quit them both. She ended

up resolving her son's ear issues the same way I did with Mark, TLP, digit spans

and the removal of casien. Her son is doing extremely well now and I haven't

seen her post to the board for a few months but if you do a search under digit

spans.... you will come up with a post where she begins to hit 7's with Garrick

and is absolutely 'floored' by his increase in abilities. It is a great

testimonial....

We've got to clear the ears, get the auditory channels functioning correctly and

get that short term auditory memory where it needs to be for our children. It

is critical to function and to success in life. We can do this..... WE DID IT!

.....and so can all of you!

The recipe is simple:

#1

clear the ears physically; if the child needs tubes, don't fool around, get

them. Remove casien products and all other suspected allergens from the diet as

this will congest the ears. We cannot work with a 'sick' body part but must

work with a healthy body part.

#2

Work tonal processing via The Listening Program, Tomatis or Berrard. You may

not think it is doing anything but it is.... it really is working the child's

ear and auditory channels.

#3

Work the child's short term auditory memory with sequencing activities or digit

spans. Bring the auditory memory up to normal levels.

#4

Work the child further via Story Telling. Have the child repeat stories that

you tell them back to you. Ensure that there is a beginning, a middle and the

end.

Work the auditory channels further by listening to audiobooks. For older

children (past the age of 8), disconnect the earpiece on the non-dominant side

(ie. if the child is right-handed, disconnect the left ear-piece. If the child

is left-handed, disconnect the right earpiece) so that the child is working

their long term memory and you are feeding information into the dominant side of

their brain. Make sure that the audiobook is interesting to the child so that

they will actively engage in 'listening' and not just 'zone-out' into a boredom

state.

#5

If necessary (as was the case for Mark), change the ear dominance to the same

side as the hand to affect long-term memory and further work the child's

auditory abilities.

We did all of these with Mark and he is very NT with regards to his auditory

processing now. We did the digit spans, the TLP together but worked the

dominance when we were sure that his ears were clear and no longer congested and

filled with fluid. Dominance should be worked on under the guidance of a

professional.

This is how we got Mark to 'normal' status in his auditory abilities. It takes

a while but the results last a lifetime and are sooooo worth it!

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[sPAM][ ] Re: OT: ADHD Inattentive Type -- any good

online resources/books?

Janice and others with CAPD experiences,

At our recent NACD appointment, I briefly discussed the various

programs out there with Ellen and the order in which they should be

done. She is of the opinion that, based on your child's starting

level, you would start with:

--center-based programs like Tomatis

--bone-conduction version of The Listening Progam (TLP)

--regular TLP

--FastForward

--Earobics

I can't remember where she put programs like mood-Bell, but it I

think it may have been between TLP and FastForward. I mentioned this

to my sister, and she said her SLP told her the opposite! They did

Earobics, then FastForward, then mood-Bell. No TLP, Tomatis,

etc. Her SLP seems to think you should start with the lowest-level

program (e.g. Earobics) and progressed up the food chain as

necessary. Ellen's approach seems to be start big and

reinforce/continue working on the problem with the other stuff if

necessary.

Has anyone researched this topic, or come up with their own

conclusions on this? The reason the topic came up was that I asked

Ellen if Earobics might be a good use of our time in the summer, and

she didn't really see that as a likely possibility. mood-Bell

isn't possible for us (no centers near us, plus $$$$$), but the

others interest me.

in NJ

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > You don't mention the age of the child -but just in case it's my

> > understanding that it's difficult/not appropriate to diagnose a

> > preschool child with CAPD. (central auditory processing

disorder) I

> > know that Dr. Tallal told me about the book " Like Sound Through

> > Water " which is about a child with CAPD written by the parent

that

> > talks about how Fast For Word really helped her.

> > And don't know if you can accurately diagnose a preschool child

> ADHD either. (one neuroMD suspected my son Dakota of ADHD at 3!)

> >

> > I can tell you that my now 13 year old son Dakota has over the

years

> > been diagnosed with ADHD and suspected CAPD but same child was

> tested

> > in 3rd grade by the public school system to be in the 99th

> percentile

> > when tested one on one. In the public school he would be known

> > as " gifted learning disabled " What diagnosis is accurate? I'd

say

> > the ADHD -but based on what professional he saw they may agree

or

> > disagree. Doesn't change that he's an awesome student with lots

of

> > friends and a goal to be an architect...and/or comedian/actor

(He

> > just got cast into an MTI stage production without the audition

> > because he is known for his theatrical improve " gift " ) You can't

> > always know for sure which is accurate unless you see someone

who is

> > an expert in diagnosis of both I found. For sure none of us

would

> be

> > able to know as some of the symptoms overlap.

> >

> > Dakota has been on fish oils -ProEFA and ProEPA 50/50 5 of

each -10

> a

> > day for years now. His concentration appears to be affected if

that

> > dosage is reduced -but there is much in the archives about

> > neurologist and other medical professional's amazement at his

change

> > on the oils. such as:

> >

>

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> >

> > We were told about all the special diets for ADHD -and like with

> > apraxia we never had to do that thankfully. However we buy as

much

> > organic food as possible (LOVE Whole Foods!) -but when we go to

the

> > movies my kids eat the movie theater popcorn and candy and even

coke

> > icees at time as a treat. I don't notice much of a difference

with

> > Dakota even with food changes like that. But forget his fish

oil!!!

> > You know when we do that's for sure!! Tanner we try to keep the

> > saturated and transfats low -but we do that for our whole

family -so

> > for us with diet alone if we went that route we wouldn't see

much -

> > thank goodness for fish oils for sure! (and now the added

benefit

> of

> > vitamin E for Tanner) I just started Tanner on another

supplement

> > www.solarxhealth.com

> >

> > Anyway -I " m curious why an ADHD diagnosis would mean the child

would

> > have to be " pulled " from the school she is in? Is she

aggressive?

> I

> > know they can expel a child that is a bully -but for ADHD? Is

that

> > even legal?

> >

> > =====

> >