Regression

[Guest guest]

Please people do not write nasty emails to my personal account and insult me, I

will put you on spam. Everyone free to put their kids on any diets and shots and

treatments. I tell my personal experience, suggest good reading to read. If you

disagree, you are free to do as you wish, nobody force you to do anything.

> >

> > every kid is very diffrent. and that is the part that sucks..if there was

one way that worked across the board we wouldnt have to fight so hard for

recovery...there are a few lucky parents that seem to do diet and therapy and

viola,recovery.

> > for most of us it is hard hard work. we go thru dozens supplements to find

the one that clicks for our kid...we go thru dozen treatments,therapys ect...

> > one thing that I always tell new parents is keep a journal!  i would say

that is one thing that should be across the board for all parents...this way you

are keeping your own research data on your child.

> >  

> > having a journal was and to a lesser extent still is huge for my sons

recovery. I have tried many things over the years.and I have gotten my son into

managed recovery. he talks and acts like a normal kid ..however he still has gut

issues/bacteria/yeast issues I still have to work my ass off to control.

> > ..I try to remind myself that the things I do are what work  for MY child

and may or may not work for someone elses....there are some things that many

parents have success with and these are the thing I try to gear parents too

first..I know for my son ABA and gluten free diet were a joke...my son was a

tough nut I probably tried everything i could afford under the sun.had I had

more money I would have done more. fly to the moon ? give me a spaceship I would

have done that. I guess you could say I did just about everything under the

moon:)

> > but it is always a matter of trial and error to see what works..for all our

kids.

> > channa

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Caryn_Reid <caryn_reid@>

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:27 AM

> > Subject: Re: Regression

> >

> >  

> > I know about a dozen recovered kids and I have NEVER seen one that out grew

autism with ABA therapy. 70% is a ridiculous number.

> > > > > > > Neka

> > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®

> > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you. I always tell my boyfriend (we are both conspirists) if tshtf the most important thing is clean food and clean water. ie. organic non GMO ...without this I dont think my son would have done half as good.

I also try and get as much of my sons vitamins ect...with food..like you i believe in fermented food ect....he eats green smoothies every day...I posted a utube video a while back bout a lady cured herself of MS with high greens and veggies..

I think all of our experiences are important as we can always learn from each other... it is hard sometimes we get fustrated because what works for one may not work for another... but we all have a deep desire to help each other...

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:50 PMSubject: Re: Regression

Its true, some kids have very severe autism, seizures, and many other problems. Mine has PDD, and I can only speak from personal experience. After reading those books I took her off all supplements all diets 6 month ago, returned all food in organic home made version. She became more social, better eye contact, more active, more words and comprehension. Improving daily. Was it because I took off load of the liver, or she was missing some vitamins or minerals from the food I took out, or it was time for developmental jump? I don't know. Now I look at foods that recover people with multiple sclerosis, alzheimer, other neurological diseases, cancer, since all autism supplements and diets made her worse. Similar to these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypqaogsfw6k --- In > ________________________________> > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:27 AM> Subject: Re: Regression> > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >> > > > > >

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Sent from my iPad

I respectfully disagree with you. I don't have time to get into a long explanation of why I disagree, but I have to wonder - if you don't believe that the gut has anything to do with autism, why do you give probiotics? I realize you say it is because of a study you know of that said it was helpful, but WHY do you think the study showed probiotics helpful if you don't think that gut health has anything to do with brain health?

Cathy

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>...But, people recognize it is neurological brain disorders and treat the brain. With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria.

[Guest guest]

Sent from my iPad

I respectfully disagree with you. I don't have time to get into a long explanation of why I disagree, but I have to wonder - if you don't believe that the gut has anything to do with autism, why do you give probiotics? I realize you say it is because of a study you know of that said it was helpful, but WHY do you think the study showed probiotics helpful if you don't think that gut health has anything to do with brain health?

Cathy

>

>...But, people recognize it is neurological brain disorders and treat the brain. With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria.

[Guest guest]

Hi - The gut is key - the gut has the same cells as the brain. As well if your

absorption of nutrients is not working due to GI issues, then you are not

getting all the good nutrition to feed your body/brain. And over abundance of

bad bacteria/yeast in the GI produce toxins that affect the brain (think if how

drinking alcohol intake affects the brain). Lastly, if there is a leaky gut

that is allowing undigested proteins and toxins in to the blood (where they are

not supposed to be), that will affect the brain, and immune system. I believe

it all resides on the health of the gut - get that working and healed because

nothing else can work until that is done. RHN

> > >

> > >...But, people recognize it is neurological brain disorders and treat the

brain. With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder.

The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we

use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Channa, can you share what you put in his green smoothies

Thanks Dianne

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 9:53:59 PMSubject: Re: Re: Regression

I agree with you. I always tell my boyfriend (we are both conspirists) if tshtf the most important thing is clean food and clean water. ie. organic non GMO ...without this I dont think my son would have done half as good.

I also try and get as much of my sons vitamins ect...with food..like you i believe in fermented food ect....he eats green smoothies every day...I posted a utube video a while back bout a lady cured herself of MS with high greens and veggies..

I think all of our experiences are important as we can always learn from each other... it is hard sometimes we get fustrated because what works for one may not work for another... but we all have a deep desire to help each other...

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:50 PMSubject: Re: Regression

Its true, some kids have very severe autism, seizures, and many other problems. Mine has PDD, and I can only speak from personal experience. After reading those books I took her off all supplements all diets 6 month ago, returned all food in organic home made version. She became more social, better eye contact, more active, more words and comprehension. Improving daily. Was it because I took off load of the liver, or she was missing some vitamins or minerals from the food I took out, or it was time for developmental jump? I don't know. Now I look at foods that recover people with multiple sclerosis, alzheimer, other neurological diseases, cancer, since all autism supplements and diets made her worse. Similar to these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypqaogsfw6k --- In > ________________________________> > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:27 AM> Subject: Re: Regression> > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > >> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Absolutely agree. 25% of children with autism have gut issues, and 75% don't.

But when parents look for alternative treatments 100% being told to put their

children on the diet. It just happens my child doesn't have any gut issues, and

her behavior got worse and worse the more dietary restrictions I put her on.

Wheat, milk, corn and nightshades and rest of the foods she is supposed to be

sensitive to are very beneficial to her health.

> > > >

> > > >...But, people recognize it is neurological brain disorders and treat the

brain. With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder.

The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we

use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Channa,

Badwig is anticancer diet and very strong detox. It normalizes whole body.

Budwig discouraged supplements, and I would be very careful in starting it if

you give them since your baby can start detoxing everything she was taken in her

life fast. My daughter was off supplements for 5 months before I started the

mixture. And anticancer diet is long term commitment and should be followed as

close as possible. We only deviate on meat and eggs because my daughter

absolutely refuse to take nutritional yeast. If done improperly it can make

condition worse. If you decide following it, please read up on it on Budwig

website.

>

> I agree with you.  I always tell my boyfriend (we are both conspirists) if

tshtf  the most important thing is clean food and clean water. ie. organic non

GMO  ...without this I dont think my son would have done half as good.

> I also try and get as much of my sons vitamins ect...with food..like you i

believe in fermented food ect....he eats green smoothies every day...I posted a

utube video a while back bout a lady cured herself of MS with high greens and

veggies..

>  

> I think all of our experiences are important as we can always learn from each

other... it is hard sometimes we get fustrated  because   what works for one

may not work for another... but we all have a deep   desire to help each

other...

> channa

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12valtrex

> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:50 PM

> Subject: Re: Regression

>

>  

> Its true, some kids have very severe autism, seizures, and many other

problems. Mine has PDD, and I can only speak from personal experience. After

reading those books I took her off all supplements all diets 6 month ago,

returned all food in organic home made version. She became more social, better

eye contact, more active, more words and comprehension. Improving daily. Was it

because I took off load of the liver, or she was missing some vitamins or

minerals from the food I took out, or it was time for developmental jump? I

don't know. Now I look at foods that recover people with multiple sclerosis,

alzheimer, other neurological diseases, cancer, since all autism supplements and

diets made her worse. Similar to these

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypqaogsfw6k

>

> --- In > ________________________________

> > From: Caryn_Reid <caryn_reid@>

> > To: mailto:mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com

> > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:27 AM

> > Subject: Re: Regression

> > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

For all newcomers: Please don't believe everything you read because

occasionally someone gets on here and says things that are not true, but

says them as if they are sure they are. All of us old-timers know that

some science is flat out wrong, and some it accurate, and some is

interpreted wrong, but accurate. Anyhow, just saying, please don't

believe something because a person says it. Read many postings and go

to many websites to learn. What I did was get my information from those

with recovered kids, and then made sure recovery meant they were able to

do regular school. And then I sought out if what they said was in

agreement with the accurate science and with others who were

successful. So, just saying, don't be mislead by someone just because

they say something in a firm manner.

Heidi N

[Guest guest]

For Heidi:

I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to themselves

first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I went on

ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed

with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food.

My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth until I return

her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their children, and

learn from their own mistakes.

Science

There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving disorders. Pressure

changes can cause a " squeeze " or barotrauma in the tissues surrounding trapped

air inside the body, such as the lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68][69] inside

paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental fillings.[70] Breathing

high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71] Temporarily blurred vision

can be caused by swelling of the lens, which usually resolves in two to four

weeks.[72][73]

There are reports that cataract may progress following HBOT.[74] Also a rare

side effect has been blindness secondary to optic neuritis (inflammation of the

optic nerve)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbaric_medicine

Common Side Effects of Injections of Vitamin B12

There are many side effects that patients may experience from injections of

vitamin B12. The more common side effects include:

Mild diarrhea

Upset stomach

Nausea

A feeling of pain and a warm sensation at the site of the injection

A feeling, or a sense, of being swollen over the entire body

Headache

Joint pain

If any of these side effects become severe or troublesome, let your doctor know

right away.

Vitamin B12 Injections: Side Effects That are Uncommon and Serious

Vitamin B12 injections can result in serious side effects. Although this is a

relatively rare occurrence, anyone taking vitamin B12 injections should be aware

of the possibility. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the

following side effects.

A rapid heartbeat

Heart palpitations

Chest pain

A feeling of tightness in the chest

Rapid weight gain

Muscle weakness

Muscle pain

Muscle cramps

A feeling of extreme thirst

Frequent urination

Leg pain

A sense of confusion

Numbness

Dizziness

A tingling sensation

Difficulty breathing

Difficulty swallowing

Shortness of breath with mild exertion or when lying down

Unusual coughing

Unusual wheezing

A feeling of extreme tiredness or fatigue

Swelling of the extremities including hands, arms, lower legs, feet or

ankles

Redness, pain or a feeling of warmth in one leg

Tenderness or swelling in one leg

A red skin color on the face

A red skin color anywhere on the body

Hives

Itching

Skin rash

http://vitamins.lovetoknow.com/Vitamin_B12_Injections_Side_Effects

[Guest guest]

angel,

one of the things I think that has been pointed out to you thru this thread is what has worked for your child has worked for your child. period.

you cannot imply anyone who does supplements or SCD diet is doing there kid a di service.

you throw out facts like 75 % of autistic kids dont have gut issues...in three years of hearing from thousands of autism moms all over the world. .it is more like 75% of autistic kids DO have gut issues...!

you were lucky in that your kid did not need the same things many other kids need....but that was you. your kid.

it is really getting annoying the way you are throwing out facts that are not accurate. speak for yourself...as most of us do. your own experiences is one thing but you can not tell people what worked for your kid will work for theres...and that is what you are implying.

b12 shots? sure, start off slow... they didnt help my son but they did amazing things for other kids...you want to shame/scare parents who are trying desperatly to heal there kids??

as hiedi said let us all do our own research carefully and not be intimidate my one moms opinion.

there are some brillaint women on this group..I mean amazing women who have actually done there homework...who have actually helped God knows how many kids.

so...why dont you do your homework then come back spouting off facts. real facts.otherwise speak for yourself!

..it is the arrogance of doctors that got a lot of our kids injured in the first place..it is the humility and open mindedness of this group that I got my son into managed recovery.

he is in mainstream kindergarten no aids no one would ever guess where he was even a year ago.and he is no longer on the spectrum.

thank God I didnt have someone telling me not to try SCD or any of the other things that helped my son hugely.( most kids do horrible on wheat or any type grains when they are in full blown GI distress and yes most our kids ARE in GI distress..)

if I had listened to someone like you FULL of themselves my son never would have recovered.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:23 PMSubject: Re: Regression

For Heidi:I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I went on ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food. My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their children, and learn from their own mistakes. Science

[Guest guest]

so in this thread you say: "With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria. "

you come on this group and tell parents the only study YOU have heard that is helpful for autism was ABA and probiotics?

then in another thread you give a long explanation of how diet helped your kid. I read every one of those books you listed except for one.

so what? some kids still need to treat the gut so they can absorb healthy organic foods. autism for most kids is a brain disorder yes..caused from autoimmune/gut issues. so once again most kids got to treat the gut.

then you give one study about the dangers of vitamin E but if you did some more research into it you would find it has helped many kids. mind you most do well with soy free non synthetic version of vitamin E.

there is a diffrence.

you point out half the facts to just about every subject you have brought up on this group. and it is really pissing me off.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 PMSubject: Re: Regression

> 'mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com');>, Ruth Setlak wrote:> > >> > > > > > > Neka> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

Nneka is feeling a bit uncomfortable about how this is turning out.All I have to put in is this ,If you saw my daughter a YEAR AGO WHEN i did nothing as in Wait and see as i was told to do ..and now when I have seen DAN ,ABA , diet,different theraphy its like MAGIC..THE peace and happiness and wellbeing that has come over my child is so obvious Im not saying that every thing is plain sailing .what i am saying is that diet,chelation different theraphy has helped significantly from a child under the table to a child wanting to participate and participating although not as yet verbal ..we must not KNOCK WHAT is working ..I have seen children who have not had any intervention and I can see the difference ...There is no time to waste.Channa in the UK there are parents that will almost slaughter you for daring to want more for your child I want my child RECOVERED .. this is not the perfect child I was given this has come as a result of man made problems .I am happy happy happy that I found out that something can be done so happy and happier even more so that my child is out of that zoned spaced out phase .I do not beleve that if I would have done nothing as in using supplement etc she would have been as she is NOW.Then the other side is that what might work for me might not work for another.Sis Nneka hold your ears! how many times did I call? you once, I call you again there is no time to waste BIKO. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:55:22 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Regression

so in this thread you say: "With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria. "

you come on this group and tell parents the only study YOU have heard that is helpful for autism was ABA and probiotics?

then in another thread you give a long explanation of how diet helped your kid. I read every one of those books you listed except for one.

so what? some kids still need to treat the gut so they can absorb healthy organic foods. autism for most kids is a brain disorder yes..caused from autoimmune/gut issues. so once again most kids got to treat the gut.

then you give one study about the dangers of vitamin E but if you did some more research into it you would find it has helped many kids. mind you most do well with soy free non synthetic version of vitamin E.

there is a diffrence.

you point out half the facts to just about every subject you have brought up on this group. and it is really pissing me off.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 PMSubject: Re: Regression

> 'mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com');>, Ruth Setlak wrote:> > >> > > > > > > Neka> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

Don't worry sis. This problem was just a temporary set back n the teacher reported better involvement on friday. My daughter too made a LARGE leap from non-verbal to verbal n so many other achievements I love to call miracles when I started biomed n diet against what I was taught for 7 years to believe. And to think I'm just getting started with the things I still want to do for her ('Moola' permitting). I won't give up until my bright lil' angel shines the brightest God Almighty made her to.Thank u Sis n everyone on here, u guys are my rock, just remembering I can always ask my questions here n get valuable answers to research on makes it easier to cope with anything that ASD chooses to throw at me.XxxNekaSent from my BlackBerry®Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:53:14 +0000To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: RE: Re: Regression Nneka is feeling a bit uncomfortable about how this is turning out.All I have to put in is this ,If you saw my daughter a YEAR AGO WHEN i did nothing as in Wait and see as i was told to do ..and now when I have seen DAN ,ABA , diet,different theraphy its like MAGIC..THE peace and happiness and wellbeing that has come over my child is so obvious Im not saying that every thing is plain sailing .what i am saying is that diet,chelation different theraphy has helped significantly from a child under the table to a child wanting to participate and participating although not as yet verbal ..we must not KNOCK WHAT is working ..I have seen children who have not had any intervention and I can see the difference ...There is no time to waste.Channa in the UK there are parents that will almost slaughter you for daring to want more for your child I want my child RECOVERED .. this is not the perfect child I was given this has come as a result of man made problems .I am happy happy happy that I found out that something can be done so happy and happier even more so that my child is out of that zoned spaced out phase .I do not beleve that if I would have done nothing as in using supplement etc she would have been as she is NOW.Then the other side is that what might work for me might not work for another.Sis Nneka hold your ears! how many times did I call? you once, I call you again there is no time to waste BIKO. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:55:22 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Regression so in this thread you say: "With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria. "you come on this group and tell parents the only study YOU have heard that is helpful for autism was ABA and probiotics? then in another thread you give a long explanation of how diet helped your kid. I read every one of those books you listed except for one.so what? some kids still need to treat the gut so they can absorb healthy organic foods. autism for most kids is a brain disorder yes..caused from autoimmune/gut issues. so once again most kids got to treat the gut. then you give one study about the dangers of vitamin E but if you did some more research into it you would find it has helped many kids. mind you most do well with soy free non synthetic version of vitamin E.there is a diffrence.you point out half the facts to just about every subject you have brought up on this group. and it is really pissing me off. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 PMSubject: Re: Regression > 'mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com');>, Ruth Setlak wrote:> > >> > > > > > > Neka> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

Why are you here? This group discusses antiviral protocols. Are you interested

or not? Most groups have anti-trolling policies.

>

> For Heidi:

> I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to themselves

first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I went on

ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed

with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food.

My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth until I return

her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their children, and

learn from their own mistakes.

> Science

>

> There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving disorders.

Pressure changes can cause a " squeeze " or barotrauma in the tissues surrounding

trapped air inside the body, such as the lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68][69]

inside paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental fillings.[70]

Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71] Temporarily

blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens, which usually resolves in

two to four weeks.[72][73]

> There are reports that cataract may progress following HBOT.[74] Also a rare

side effect has been blindness secondary to optic neuritis (inflammation of the

optic nerve)

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbaric_medicine

> Common Side Effects of Injections of Vitamin B12

>

> There are many side effects that patients may experience from injections of

vitamin B12. The more common side effects include:

>

> Mild diarrhea

> Upset stomach

> Nausea

> A feeling of pain and a warm sensation at the site of the injection

> A feeling, or a sense, of being swollen over the entire body

> Headache

> Joint pain

>

> If any of these side effects become severe or troublesome, let your doctor

know right away.

> Vitamin B12 Injections: Side Effects That are Uncommon and Serious

>

> Vitamin B12 injections can result in serious side effects. Although this is a

relatively rare occurrence, anyone taking vitamin B12 injections should be aware

of the possibility. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the

following side effects.

>

> A rapid heartbeat

> Heart palpitations

> Chest pain

> A feeling of tightness in the chest

> Rapid weight gain

> Muscle weakness

> Muscle pain

> Muscle cramps

> A feeling of extreme thirst

> Frequent urination

> Leg pain

> A sense of confusion

> Numbness

> Dizziness

> A tingling sensation

> Difficulty breathing

> Difficulty swallowing

> Shortness of breath with mild exertion or when lying down

> Unusual coughing

> Unusual wheezing

> A feeling of extreme tiredness or fatigue

> Swelling of the extremities including hands, arms, lower legs, feet or

ankles

> Redness, pain or a feeling of warmth in one leg

> Tenderness or swelling in one leg

> A red skin color on the face

> A red skin color anywhere on the body

> Hives

> Itching

> Skin rash

> http://vitamins.lovetoknow.com/Vitamin_B12_Injections_Side_Effects

>

[Guest guest]

Like like. Every child is unique. Sent from my iPhone

angel,

one of the things I think that has been pointed out to you thru this thread is what has worked for your child has worked for your child. period.

you cannot imply anyone who does supplements or SCD diet is doing there kid a di service.

you throw out facts like 75 % of autistic kids dont have gut issues...in three years of hearing from thousands of autism moms all over the world. .it is more like 75% of autistic kids DO have gut issues...!

you were lucky in that your kid did not need the same things many other kids need....but that was you. your kid.

it is really getting annoying the way you are throwing out facts that are not accurate. speak for yourself...as most of us do. your own experiences is one thing but you can not tell people what worked for your kid will work for theres...and that is what you are implying.

b12 shots? sure, start off slow... they didnt help my son but they did amazing things for other kids...you want to shame/scare parents who are trying desperatly to heal there kids??

as hiedi said let us all do our own research carefully and not be intimidate my one moms opinion.

there are some brillaint women on this group..I mean amazing women who have actually done there homework...who have actually helped God knows how many kids.

so...why dont you do your homework then come back spouting off facts. real facts.otherwise speak for yourself!

..it is the arrogance of doctors that got a lot of our kids injured in the first place..it is the humility and open mindedness of this group that I got my son into managed recovery.

he is in mainstream kindergarten no aids no one would ever guess where he was even a year ago.and he is no longer on the spectrum.

thank God I didnt have someone telling me not to try SCD or any of the other things that helped my son hugely.( most kids do horrible on wheat or any type grains when they are in full blown GI distress and yes most our kids ARE in GI distress..)

if I had listened to someone like you FULL of themselves my son never would have recovered.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:23 PMSubject: Re: Regression

For Heidi:I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I went on ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food. My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their children, and learn from their own mistakes. Science

[Guest guest]

This is how I know you don't talk to parents recovering children

much. Many do try supplements on themselves, and some like me, do

all treatments on themselves before giving them to their children

because we no longer blindly trust doctors. I love, MB12. And if

you read a lot, you would know that many adults get rapid heartbeat

upon starting new supplements because it's a form of die-off. There

is always a small percentage of the population who can not tolerate

something. And you would learn that MB12, by itself, often

stockpiles because it needs other supplements to work with it, such

as folate or folinic acid and sometimes both. You would also have

read that many parents go into the HBOT chambers with their children

because of their children's anxiety. They say it gives them more

energy. Tylenol and aspirin kill people, so do a lot of things.

And if you read a lot, you would know that everything can be either

good or bad, depending upon using it correctly. This is why it's

important to read. But, my question is why would you join an MB12

group to bash MB12? The owner of this group recovered his son

partly by using MB12, so he supports it. There are many forums

where people waste their time bashing; go join them. On this forum,

we lend information to point people towards ideas that they can

research and choose if they so want to. The important thing is that

people learn what to expect from treatments, so they use them

effectively and seek out the doctors that know how to use them

successfully.

A troll is someone who purposely sidetracks or wastes peoples' time

by saying things that go against the goal of the group. It would be

like me going to an ABA group telling people they don't need to do

it and that it causes mental duress. Since I recovered mine with no

ABA, I could have overgeneralized and said it's not needed, but I

would not want to deter it, because I do support it. It is helpful

much of the time. But, if one does ABA instead of medical, then I

don't agree with that. And some ABA therapists are better than

others. And, actually all the people that I know who have been in

ABA for years are not recovered-- if that is all they did. But,

they do behave and relate better, just not enough to lose their

diagnosis. I have heard stories of recoveries, but then later the

few that I personally talked to in order to verify they recovered

their children on ABA alone, admitted that their children are

struggling in school and with symptoms. Some mistakenly think that

because their children learn to talk and follow schedules, they are

recovered. They are recovered when they can do regular school

without lots of assistance or complaints by teachers. Anyhow, like

I asked before, why would you join an MB12 group and then bash

MB12? Maybe you have a history of liking to start arguments?

Heidi N

For Heidi:

> I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did

it to themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart

palpitations for hours. I went on ketogenic diet that everyone

claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed with major

depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food.

My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth

until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment

with their children, and learn from their own mistakes.

> Science

>

> There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving

disorders. Pressure changes can cause a "squeeze" or barotrauma in

the tissues surrounding trapped air inside the body, such as the

lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68]

[69] inside

paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental fillings.[70]

Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71]

Temporarily blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens,

which usually resolves in two to four weeks.[72][73]

> There are reports that cataract may progress following

HBOT.[74] Also a rare side effect has been blindness secondary to

optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve)

[Guest guest]

Again. Well said Heidi. Sent from my iPhone

This is how I know you don't talk to parents recovering children

much. Many do try supplements on themselves, and some like me, do

all treatments on themselves before giving them to their children

because we no longer blindly trust doctors. I love, MB12. And if

you read a lot, you would know that many adults get rapid heartbeat

upon starting new supplements because it's a form of die-off. There

is always a small percentage of the population who can not tolerate

something. And you would learn that MB12, by itself, often

stockpiles because it needs other supplements to work with it, such

as folate or folinic acid and sometimes both. You would also have

read that many parents go into the HBOT chambers with their children

because of their children's anxiety. They say it gives them more

energy. Tylenol and aspirin kill people, so do a lot of things.

And if you read a lot, you would know that everything can be either

good or bad, depending upon using it correctly. This is why it's

important to read. But, my question is why would you join an MB12

group to bash MB12? The owner of this group recovered his son

partly by using MB12, so he supports it. There are many forums

where people waste their time bashing; go join them. On this forum,

we lend information to point people towards ideas that they can

research and choose if they so want to. The important thing is that

people learn what to expect from treatments, so they use them

effectively and seek out the doctors that know how to use them

successfully.

A troll is someone who purposely sidetracks or wastes peoples' time

by saying things that go against the goal of the group. It would be

like me going to an ABA group telling people they don't need to do

it and that it causes mental duress. Since I recovered mine with no

ABA, I could have overgeneralized and said it's not needed, but I

would not want to deter it, because I do support it. It is helpful

much of the time. But, if one does ABA instead of medical, then I

don't agree with that. And some ABA therapists are better than

others. And, actually all the people that I know who have been in

ABA for years are not recovered-- if that is all they did. But,

they do behave and relate better, just not enough to lose their

diagnosis. I have heard stories of recoveries, but then later the

few that I personally talked to in order to verify they recovered

their children on ABA alone, admitted that their children are

struggling in school and with symptoms. Some mistakenly think that

because their children learn to talk and follow schedules, they are

recovered. They are recovered when they can do regular school

without lots of assistance or complaints by teachers. Anyhow, like

I asked before, why would you join an MB12 group and then bash

MB12? Maybe you have a history of liking to start arguments?

Heidi N

For Heidi:

> I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did

it to themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart

palpitations for hours. I went on ketogenic diet that everyone

claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed with major

depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food.

My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth

until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment

with their children, and learn from their own mistakes.

> Science

>

> There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving

disorders. Pressure changes can cause a "squeeze" or barotrauma in

the tissues surrounding trapped air inside the body, such as the

lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68]

[69] inside

paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental fillings.[70]

Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71]

Temporarily blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens,

which usually resolves in two to four weeks.[72][73]

> There are reports that cataract may progress following

HBOT.[74] Also a rare side effect has been blindness secondary to

optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve)

[Guest guest]

Thats the way thats why as far as im concerned God gave someone one the thought to start this group and with Gods guidance other people have taken an active role in helping by saying their stories and thoughts! are they getting paid? NO it is the love they have for the children and the steadfast belief ,that things can get better, that is the driving force yes! Ithank you all.. you know your selfs, thank you to every single person who is on this group to make a positive impact in what at times can be a bleak and scary road .Sis Nneka the devil is a liar we will get our children recovered by his and others might... not by sitting down and waiting. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: nekanwakobi@...Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:28:26 +0000Subject: Re: Re: Regression

Don't worry sis. This problem was just a temporary set back n the teacher reported better involvement on friday. My daughter too made a LARGE leap from non-verbal to verbal n so many other achievements I love to call miracles when I started biomed n diet against what I was taught for 7 years to believe. And to think I'm just getting started with the things I still want to do for her ('Moola' permitting). I won't give up until my bright lil' angel shines the brightest God Almighty made her to.Thank u Sis n everyone on here, u guys are my rock, just remembering I can always ask my questions here n get valuable answers to research on makes it easier to cope with anything that ASD chooses to throw at me.XxxNekaSent from my BlackBerry®

Sender: mb12valtrex

Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:53:14 +0000To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex

Subject: RE: Re: Regression

Nneka is feeling a bit uncomfortable about how this is turning out.All I have to put in is this ,If you saw my daughter a YEAR AGO WHEN i did nothing as in Wait and see as i was told to do ..and now when I have seen DAN ,ABA , diet,different theraphy its like MAGIC..THE peace and happiness and wellbeing that has come over my child is so obvious Im not saying that every thing is plain sailing .what i am saying is that diet,chelation different theraphy has helped significantly from a child under the table to a child wanting to participate and participating although not as yet verbal ..we must not KNOCK WHAT is working ..I have seen children who have not had any intervention and I can see the difference ...There is no time to waste.Channa in the UK there are parents that will almost slaughter you for daring to want more for your child I want my child RECOVERED .. this is not the perfect child I was given this has come as a result of man made problems .I am happy happy happy that I found out that something can be done so happy and happier even more so that my child is out of that zoned spaced out phase .I do not beleve that if I would have done nothing as in using supplement etc she would have been as she is NOW.Then the other side is that what might work for me might not work for another.Sis Nneka hold your ears! how many times did I call? you once, I call you again there is no time to waste BIKO. Bola To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:55:22 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Regression

so in this thread you say: "With autism everyone treat the gut and yeast. Why? Its a brain disorder. The only study I know was helpful other than ABA therapy are probiotics. So, we use fermented food instead that are rich in probiotic bacteria. "

you come on this group and tell parents the only study YOU have heard that is helpful for autism was ABA and probiotics?

then in another thread you give a long explanation of how diet helped your kid. I read every one of those books you listed except for one.

so what? some kids still need to treat the gut so they can absorb healthy organic foods. autism for most kids is a brain disorder yes..caused from autoimmune/gut issues. so once again most kids got to treat the gut.

then you give one study about the dangers of vitamin E but if you did some more research into it you would find it has helped many kids. mind you most do well with soy free non synthetic version of vitamin E.

there is a diffrence.

you point out half the facts to just about every subject you have brought up on this group. and it is really pissing me off.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 PMSubject: Re: Regression

> 'mb12valtrex%40yahoogroups.com');>, Ruth Setlak wrote:> > >> > > > > > > Neka> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry®> > > >> > > > ------------------------------------> > > >> > > >

[Guest guest]

Being on this board I have learnt one huge thing only to find the "good" and nothing else Sent from my iPhone

Again. Well said Heidi. Sent from my iPhone

This is how I know you don't talk to parents recovering children

much. Many do try supplements on themselves, and some like me, do

all treatments on themselves before giving them to their children

because we no longer blindly trust doctors. I love, MB12. And if

you read a lot, you would know that many adults get rapid heartbeat

upon starting new supplements because it's a form of die-off. There

is always a small percentage of the population who can not tolerate

something. And you would learn that MB12, by itself, often

stockpiles because it needs other supplements to work with it, such

as folate or folinic acid and sometimes both. You would also have

read that many parents go into the HBOT chambers with their children

because of their children's anxiety. They say it gives them more

energy. Tylenol and aspirin kill people, so do a lot of things.

And if you read a lot, you would know that everything can be either

good or bad, depending upon using it correctly. This is why it's

important to read. But, my question is why would you join an MB12

group to bash MB12? The owner of this group recovered his son

partly by using MB12, so he supports it. There are many forums

where people waste their time bashing; go join them. On this forum,

we lend information to point people towards ideas that they can

research and choose if they so want to. The important thing is that

people learn what to expect from treatments, so they use them

effectively and seek out the doctors that know how to use them

successfully.

A troll is someone who purposely sidetracks or wastes peoples' time

by saying things that go against the goal of the group. It would be

like me going to an ABA group telling people they don't need to do

it and that it causes mental duress. Since I recovered mine with no

ABA, I could have overgeneralized and said it's not needed, but I

would not want to deter it, because I do support it. It is helpful

much of the time. But, if one does ABA instead of medical, then I

don't agree with that. And some ABA therapists are better than

others. And, actually all the people that I know who have been in

ABA for years are not recovered-- if that is all they did. But,

they do behave and relate better, just not enough to lose their

diagnosis. I have heard stories of recoveries, but then later the

few that I personally talked to in order to verify they recovered

their children on ABA alone, admitted that their children are

struggling in school and with symptoms. Some mistakenly think that

because their children learn to talk and follow schedules, they are

recovered. They are recovered when they can do regular school

without lots of assistance or complaints by teachers. Anyhow, like

I asked before, why would you join an MB12 group and then bash

MB12? Maybe you have a history of liking to start arguments?

Heidi N

For Heidi:

> I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did

it to themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart

palpitations for hours. I went on ketogenic diet that everyone

claims nowadays helps with autism was diagnosed with major

depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to normal food.

My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth

until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment

with their children, and learn from their own mistakes.

> Science

>

> There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving

disorders. Pressure changes can cause a "squeeze" or barotrauma in

the tissues surrounding trapped air inside the body, such as the

lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68]

[69] inside

paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental fillings.[70]

Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71]

Temporarily blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens,

which usually resolves in two to four weeks.[72][73]

> There are reports that cataract may progress following

HBOT.[74] Also a rare side effect has been blindness secondary to

optic neuritis (inflammation of the optic nerve)

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Agreed. Very well put. I was starting to get very irritated with that poster

as well. I don't post often but do read my MB12 valtrex group every single day.

Those of us recovering our kiddos know how much of what was being said is simply

not true... And we do have to try things with our kiddos to achieve recovery...

And sometimes try them ourselves... And without doing all the things I have with

my little guy (the trial and sometimes error) I would have no idea how good he

could be!

Thanks for setting it straight Heidi!

>

> >

> > This is how I know you don't talk to parents recovering children much. Many

do try supplements on themselves, and some like me, do all treatments on

themselves before giving them to their children because we no longer blindly

trust doctors. I love, MB12. And if you read a lot, you would know that many

adults get rapid heartbeat upon starting new supplements because it's a form of

die-off. There is always a small percentage of the population who can not

tolerate something. And you would learn that MB12, by itself, often

stockpiles because it needs other supplements to work with it, such as folate or

folinic acid and sometimes both. You would also have read that many parents go

into the HBOT chambers with their children because of their children's anxiety.

They say it gives them more energy. Tylenol and aspirin kill people, so do a

lot of things. And if you read a lot, you would know that everything can be

either good or bad, depending upon using it correctly. This is why it's

important to read. But, my question is why would you join an MB12 group to bash

MB12? The owner of this group recovered his son partly by using MB12, so he

supports it. There are many forums where people waste their time bashing; go

join them. On this forum, we lend information to point people towards ideas

that they can research and choose if they so want to. The important thing is

that people learn what to expect from treatments, so they use them effectively

and seek out the doctors that know how to use them successfully.

> >

> > A troll is someone who purposely sidetracks or wastes peoples' time by

saying things that go against the goal of the group. It would be like me going

to an ABA group telling people they don't need to do it and that it causes

mental duress. Since I recovered mine with no ABA, I could have overgeneralized

and said it's not needed, but I would not want to deter it, because I do support

it. It is helpful much of the time. But, if one does ABA instead of

medical, then I don't agree with that. And some ABA therapists are better than

others. And, actually all the people that I know who have been in ABA for years

are not recovered-- if that is all they did. But, they do behave and relate

better, just not enough to lose their diagnosis. I have heard stories of

recoveries, but then later the few that I personally talked to in order to

verify they recovered their children on ABA alone, admitted that their children

are struggling in school and with symptoms. Some mistakenly think that

because their children learn to talk and follow schedules, they are recovered.

They are recovered when they can do regular school without lots of assistance or

complaints by teachers. Anyhow, like I asked before, why would you join an

MB12 group and then bash MB12? Maybe you have a history of liking to start

arguments?

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

> >

> >

> > For Heidi:

> > > I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to

themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I

went on ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was

diagnosed with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to

normal food. My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth

until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their

children, and learn from their own mistakes.

> > > Science

> > >

> > > There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving disorders.

Pressure changes can cause a " squeeze " or barotrauma in the tissues surrounding

trapped air inside the body, such as the lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68]

> >

> > [69] inside paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental

fillings.[70] Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71]

Temporarily blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens, which usually

resolves in two to four weeks.[72][73]

> > > There are reports that cataract may progress following HBOT.[74] Also a

rare side effect has been blindness secondary to optic neuritis (inflammation of

the optic nerve)

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Heidi,

I understood from your personal email this is Heidi way or a highway group. I

just happened to bump into method that works like B12 only without side effects

healing children with food and was excited to share success. But I guess nobody

interested here, so good luck with your endeavors people. Wouldn't want to

irritate anyone here and spoil their day.

Btw, heart palpitation is not a " die off " Its one of dangerous side effect of

excessive B12 that can led to heart failure. And next time you recommend adults

to take B12 with their kids, tell them to quadruple the dose for adults.

Children weight less and feel more effects. Just make sure there are paramedics

on stand by because children recover quickly unlike adults.

http://www.ehow.com/list_5994974_dangers-high-b12_.html

> >

> > >

> > > This is how I know you don't talk to parents recovering children much.

Many do try supplements on themselves, and some like me, do all treatments on

themselves before giving them to their children because we no longer blindly

trust doctors. I love, MB12. And if you read a lot, you would know that many

adults get rapid heartbeat upon starting new supplements because it's a form of

die-off. There is always a small percentage of the population who can not

tolerate something. And you would learn that MB12, by itself, often

stockpiles because it needs other supplements to work with it, such as folate or

folinic acid and sometimes both. You would also have read that many parents go

into the HBOT chambers with their children because of their children's anxiety.

They say it gives them more energy. Tylenol and aspirin kill people, so do a

lot of things. And if you read a lot, you would know that everything can be

either good or bad, depending upon using it correctly. This is why it's

important to read. But, my question is why would you join an MB12 group to bash

MB12? The owner of this group recovered his son partly by using MB12, so he

supports it. There are many forums where people waste their time bashing; go

join them. On this forum, we lend information to point people towards ideas

that they can research and choose if they so want to. The important thing is

that people learn what to expect from treatments, so they use them effectively

and seek out the doctors that know how to use them successfully.

> > >

> > > A troll is someone who purposely sidetracks or wastes peoples' time by

saying things that go against the goal of the group. It would be like me going

to an ABA group telling people they don't need to do it and that it causes

mental duress. Since I recovered mine with no ABA, I could have overgeneralized

and said it's not needed, but I would not want to deter it, because I do support

it. It is helpful much of the time. But, if one does ABA instead of

medical, then I don't agree with that. And some ABA therapists are better than

others. And, actually all the people that I know who have been in ABA for years

are not recovered-- if that is all they did. But, they do behave and relate

better, just not enough to lose their diagnosis. I have heard stories of

recoveries, but then later the few that I personally talked to in order to

verify they recovered their children on ABA alone, admitted that their children

are struggling in school and with symptoms. Some mistakenly think that

because their children learn to talk and follow schedules, they are recovered.

They are recovered when they can do regular school without lots of assistance or

complaints by teachers. Anyhow, like I asked before, why would you join an

MB12 group and then bash MB12? Maybe you have a history of liking to start

arguments?

> > >

> > > Heidi N

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For Heidi:

> > > > I wish people who put their kids on alternative therapies did it to

themselves first. My husband took B12 shots had heart palpitations for hours. I

went on ketogenic diet that everyone claims nowadays helps with autism was

diagnosed with major depression in 6 month that resolved after returning to

normal food. My daughter got extremely hyper on SCD and had yeast overgrowth

until I return her to normal diet. But everyone free to experiment with their

children, and learn from their own mistakes.

> > > > Science

> > > >

> > > > There are risks associated with HBOT, similar to some diving disorders.

Pressure changes can cause a " squeeze " or barotrauma in the tissues surrounding

trapped air inside the body, such as the lungs,[67] behind the eardrum,[68]

> > >

> > > [69] inside paranasal sinuses,[68] or trapped underneath dental

fillings.[70] Breathing high-pressure oxygen may cause oxygen toxicity.[71]

Temporarily blurred vision can be caused by swelling of the lens, which usually

resolves in two to four weeks.[72][73]

> > > > There are reports that cataract may progress following HBOT.[74] Also a

rare side effect has been blindness secondary to optic neuritis (inflammation of

the optic nerve)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Please, if you want to introduce statistics, provide the source.

"Outgrow" is not the correct term. Outgrow would be with no intervention

at all. That means no ABA either. ABA is a treatment. Outgrow is a passive act of waiting something out through maturity. Outgrow means it was never actually an issue. You outgrow your disdain for peas. You don't outgrow autism.

ABA is a direct treatment for autism. If you are treating autistic behavior with behavioral therapy, then you are not outgrowing the behavior. You are actively modify the behavior. That's what ABA is: behavior modification.

If you honestly believe autism is a neurological disorder, then you know

you can't "outgrow" a neurological disorder. The brain rarely decides to work where it once didn't all on its own.

I really am hoping this is all just a big language barrier miscommunication.

For the record, PDD is autism.

* * * Cheryl * *

* ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ Gryffin's Tail Blog

~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

angelika99_00 March 6, 2013 5:28 PM

So, 70% of children outgrow PDD at 5 years of age with intensive ABA therapy.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Cheryl! OH, I love yout blog BTW!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: Regression

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.Please, if you want to introduce statistics, provide the source."Outgrow" is not the correct term. Outgrow would be with no intervention at all. That means no ABA either. ABA is a treatment. Outgrow is a passive act of waiting something out through maturity. Outgrow means it was never actually an issue. You outgrow your disdain for peas. You don't outgrow autism.ABA is a direct treatment for autism. If you are treating autistic behavior with behavioral therapy, then you are not outgrowing the behavior. You are actively modify the behavior. That's what ABA is: behavior modification.If you honestly believe autism is a neurological disorder, then you know you can't "outgrow" a neurological disorder. The brain rarely decides to work where it once didn't all on its own.I really am hoping this is all just a big language barrier

miscommunication.For the record, PDD is autism.

* * * Cheryl * * * ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed book ~

~ Gryffin's Tail Blog ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

angelika99_00

March 6, 2013 5:28 PM

So, 70% of children outgrow PDD at 5 years of age with intensive ABA therapy.

[Guest guest]

Thank you again Cheryl. After two years of biomeds and diet change, some of my family have said to my face "He just went through a phase and has outgrown it" lol. Stimming, one word sentences, rage, irrational behavior, ocd, lining up toys and shoes, no eye contact, night tremors. Had nothing to do with chelation, biomeds and gut healing. Being in Ms, where these things are never heard of, it is their only way to explain, I guess. We still have social and other issues more related to Aspergers. But hey we will take it! Anyone out there know any cures for bedwetting? Thank you all. Knowledge is power! Always Call Christie Gravatt We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience! Subject: Re:

Re: RegressionTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Monday, March 11, 2013, 1:15 PMThank you Cheryl! OH, I love yout blog BTW!

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: Regression

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.Please, if you want to introduce statistics, provide the source."Outgrow" is not the correct term. Outgrow would be with no intervention at all. That means no ABA either. ABA is a treatment. Outgrow is a passive act of waiting something out through maturity. Outgrow means it was never actually an issue. You outgrow your disdain for peas. You don't outgrow autism.ABA is a direct treatment for autism. If you are treating autistic behavior with behavioral therapy, then you are not outgrowing the behavior. You are actively modify the behavior. That's what ABA is: behavior modification.If you honestly believe autism is a neurological disorder, then you know you can't "outgrow" a neurological disorder. The brain rarely decides to work where it once didn't all on its own.I really am hoping this is all just a big language barrier

miscommunication.For the record, PDD is autism.

* * * Cheryl * * * ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed book ~

~ Gryffin's Tail Blog ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

angelika99_00

March 6, 2013 5:28 PM

So, 70% of children outgrow PDD at 5 years of age with intensive ABA therapy.