Hyperactivity with MB 12 shots

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Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per

Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become

super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain

things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity

with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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Its CarolineVoice of ...for now.

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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Sorry, about the first email. I believe it's maybe a lil too much B12. My son started to have similar symptoms and after we spaced out the shots more he improved. However, is still contact his doc.CarolineVoice of ...for now.

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

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I agree with , that's what we have been told. CarolineVoice of ...for now.

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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This is an interesting thread. When we started B12, we did not see any effects

every 3rd day, our DAN told us to increase it to every 2 days, then nothing for

a while until we increased it to every night and we give the shots. Since then,

we have verbals since we were nonverbal for a long time.

On the other side, it is interesting that B vitamins increase Yeast. OUr son

does have an overgrowth in yeast and we are treating it with Antifungal off and

on but regularly on Olive Leaf (we have heard great things about it) we give it

every 4 hours followed by activated charcoal two hours later. Slow improvements

but now I am doubting the B vitamins and thinking what if we take him off B

vitamins to stop feeding yeast and off Olive Leaf. He does eat very healthy and

on this diet GFCFSFCF....He continues to demonstrate overstimming behaviors and

chewing on his clothes.

Any feedback to shed on this insight is greatly appreciative!

>

> Hi

>

> We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per

Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

>

> Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become

super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain

things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

>

> Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity

with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

>

> Best regards

> Amit

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

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To my knowledge the B vitamins will give problems only if they have been derived from yeast. Ratan.------------Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 4022609, 098281 99856, mail: ratanpsych@..., Consultant in Nutritional & Neuro-behavioural Psychology, Jaipur Hospital- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education; Life Member, Nutrition Soc. of India; Member ISOM- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);- www.RegainMentalHealth.com/ www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealthTo: mb12valtrex From: tony.f.farah@...Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:08:36 +0000Subject: Re: Hyperactivity with MB 12 shots

This is an interesting thread. When we started B12, we did not see any effects every 3rd day, our DAN told us to increase it to every 2 days, then nothing for a while until we increased it to every night and we give the shots. Since then, we have verbals since we were nonverbal for a long time.

On the other side, it is interesting that B vitamins increase Yeast. OUr son does have an overgrowth in yeast and we are treating it with Antifungal off and on but regularly on Olive Leaf (we have heard great things about it) we give it every 4 hours followed by activated charcoal two hours later. Slow improvements but now I am doubting the B vitamins and thinking what if we take him off B vitamins to stop feeding yeast and off Olive Leaf. He does eat very healthy and on this diet GFCFSFCF....He continues to demonstrate overstimming behaviors and chewing on his clothes.

Any feedback to shed on this insight is greatly appreciative!

>

> Hi

>

> We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

>

> Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

>

> Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

>

> Best regards

> Amit

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

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If the child has MTHF a genetic mutation, he will be unable to use the mb12

since 5mthf is required to adequately use it. have ur doc check him for mthf or

try adding it- start with a sprinkle and slowly increase to about 1000mcg. some

docs do high doses of the mthf supplement but it is only appropriate for those

with folate deficiency. 5mthf is the active form of folic acid.

Check out MTHF Dr Ben on youtube for explanation of this genetic mutation.

Also there are other mutations which are tested by Dr Amy Yasko which indicate

wether methyl b12 is tolerated or not. in many cases Hydroxy b12 may be a better

fit for the child. But these are things the DAN doc should be checking.

Good luck with your quest for recovery. It is a long road but if you stick with

it and have a great biomed doc your child will do great! If there's yeast

eliminate added sugar completely. Diet is most important piece of biomed so if

he is not eating well seek out a feeding therapist and dietitian (experienced in

biomed) to help you improve the diet. You can give all the antifungals you want

but if there's sugar in the diet it will never go away.

Hugs!

Nutramom (Carla).

[Guest guest]

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12. I have also read through Dr Neubrander's site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However I have couple of doubts :1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

Best not give him anything. If the side effects are tolerable, keep going it will get better. Something is going on. He may be a responder.did you add folinic acid? If so I would take if off for a while and add latter. Methyl B12 has been our miracle so far.Good luck! Enviado via iPadEm 10/03/2013, às 03:04, Amit Gupta escreveu:

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12. I have also read through Dr Neubrander's site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However I have couple of doubts :1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

It is very normal for your child to experience increased energy levels upon starting MB12, and it's a good sign that it is having an effect in his body.  Some of the best responders display this--my son is one of them.  We pulled our hair out for about a month, but eventually his energy levels returned to normal.  In the meantime, MB12 has been a huge intervention for us, and my son is now recovered; he is 4 1/2 and has been on MB12 for 2 1/2 years.  I would give it more time, and I also would not give other things to try and force him to calm down.  It is tempting, but if you see gains, you will then not be sure what caused the gains because you were doing more than one new thing.  Try and hang in there, and he should calm down on his own soon. 

 

 

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12.

 I have also read through Dr Neubrander's  site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However  I have couple of doubts :

1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.

Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

 

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.

So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

 

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone!  My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.

Sent from my iPhone

 

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

 

Amit,Did you read this?  It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/

Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.

Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdf

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdf

Good luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

 

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

Hello ,Congrats on your sons recovery! Can you tell me what all have worked with helping your son? And please tell me your journey! I love hearing stories of recovery! It' helps me sooo much! I am working towards that with my dtr. she is 4 1/2 also. She has come a long way but still has a ways to go. :)Cassie To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Hyperactivity with MB 12 shots

It is very normal for your child to experience increased energy levels upon starting MB12, and it's a good sign that it is having an effect in his body. Some of the best responders display this--my son is one of them. We pulled our hair out for about a month, but eventually his energy levels returned to normal. In the meantime, MB12 has been a huge intervention for us, and my son is now recovered; he is 4 1/2 and has been on MB12 for 2 1/2 years. I would give it more time, and I also would not give other things to try and force him to calm down. It is tempting, but if you see gains, you will then not be sure what caused the gains because you were doing more than one new thing. Try and hang in there, and he should calm down on his own soon.

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12.

I have also read through Dr Neubrander's site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However I have couple of doubts :

1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.

Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.

So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.

Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/

Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.

Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdf

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdf

Good luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

Sent from my iPad

[Guest guest]

This was our case too. Went away after about 2 weeks and just saw gains. Sent from my iPhone

It is very normal for your child to experience increased energy levels upon starting MB12, and it's a good sign that it is having an effect in his body. Some of the best responders display this--my son is one of them. We pulled our hair out for about a month, but eventually his energy levels returned to normal. In the meantime, MB12 has been a huge intervention for us, and my son is now recovered; he is 4 1/2 and has been on MB12 for 2 1/2 years. I would give it more time, and I also would not give other things to try and force him to calm down. It is tempting, but if you see gains, you will then not be sure what caused the gains because you were doing more than one new thing. Try and hang in there, and he should calm down on his own soon.

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12.

I have also read through Dr Neubrander's site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However I have couple of doubts :

1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.

Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.

So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.

Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/

Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.

Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdf

http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdf

Good luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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Hi CristinaWe have not added the Folinic acid yet. Thanks for your motivating advise.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

Best not give him anything. If the side effects are tolerable, keep going it will get better. Something is going on. He may be a responder.did you add folinic acid? If so I would take if off for a while and add latter. Methyl B12 has been our miracle so far.Good luck! Enviado via iPadEm 10/03/2013, às 03:04, Amit Gupta escreveu:

HiThanks to all of you for your kind guidance. We are also observing that after starting mb12 shots, my son has got increased sensory issues in his hands. he is watching his hands all the times ( as if thinking to what to do with his hands) and wants to feel something like beads or marbles in his hands. This is something new which has come after mb12. I have also read through Dr Neubrander's site and understand that some of the positive negatives are expected when we start these shots. However I have couple of doubts :1. How do we know that the reactions what we see are actually a passing phase or some allergy/inability to handle MB12.2. What supplements/ therapies can be given to reduce this hyperactivity and sensory issues.Thanks to all of you wonderful people helping each other to sail through this journey.Best regardsAmitSent from my iPad

When I started giving my son MB12 shots he was very hyper for 3 weeks. Loosing temper every now and had sleep issues. But all these symptoms disappeared after 3 weeks.His speech has improved a lot after the shots.So hang in there...I think it's normal.Sent from my iPad

There is also the problem with genetic mutations that cannot handle methyl supplements. He may be one of those kids...I am having a mind blank at the moment but I think it is the CBS mutation kids. Correct me if I a wrong someone! My daughter cannot tolerate mb12 but does well with hydroxy b12.Sent from my iPhone

Could also be yeast. B vitamins tend to increase yeast. Sent from my iPhone

Amit,Did you read this? It's very important.http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/methyl-b12-a-treatment-for-asd-with-methylation-issues/Call the doctor, yes. But if the side effects are tolerable, stick with the shots for the first 6 weeks to see if your child is a responder. Sometimes the child gets worse in the first weeks until get better. The side effects tend to go away.Also read:http://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/Neubrander_MB12_Protocol.pdfhttp://www.collegepharmacy.com/images/download/MethylB12_Myth_Masterpiece_or_Miracle.pdfGood luckCristinaEnviado via iPadEm 08/03/2013, às 14:21, Amit Gupta escreveu:

Hi

We have started MB 12 shots for my ds (2.9 yo, 28 lbs). We are doing it as per Dr Neubrander protocol and giving the shots every 3rd day.

Everything was fine till the 2nd shot but from 3rd shot onwards, he has become super hyper active and also showing kind of obsessive behaviour with certain things. He is also getting angry and having very frequent melt downs/crying.

Do you have any idea if its normal with kids to have increased hyper activity with MB 12 shots ? Also please let me know what I can do to help him calm down.

Best regards

Amit

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